OK, back to the "is it a sin" game. Breast enhancement surgery

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In my opinion there are better things to spend time and money on; unless the individual is so affected by the issue that it is effecting her life. Even then therapy should be offered first- after prayer and faith of course!

One problem I see with cosmetic surgery is the addictive and never ending nature of procedures.

There’s nothing wrong with wanting to look good, but every procedure entails risks and statistically the person could end up seriously ill or dead as a result of an unnecessary surgical procedure. I have to have regular surgical procedures as a result of a life threatening condition and would never choose the experience and risks involved.

God bless.

Karen
 
I don’t care what you do. I will say one thing, self esteem can’t be bought surgically…If you don’t like yourself because of a small bust, your problems might be more than skin deep
 
I never stated that I didn’t like myself, I simply stated that I don’t feel womanly… BIG difference.
In the case of a woman who had a mastectomy, the general consensus on here is that she should be able to have augmentation to return her back to the state she was originally. She would want her womanly figure back again, correct? It would make her feel better about herself, and would boost her self-esteem right? Would it adversely effect her health if she didn’t have breast augmentation? Of course not! Of course she didn’t ask to get cancer and have her breasts removed, but are they something that she needs to survive? No.
I definitely don’t condone a woman getting breast enhancement to go from a C to a DD just because she want’s bigger breasts to show off. But, in cases like mine where I just want to have a normal womanly body, I don’t see how it’s any different than a woman getting augmentation after a mastectomy. The only difference is, she had them before the mastectomy, I and other women like me, have never had them.
 
Someone brought self esteem up and I was addressing them

Large breast’s can cause lots of problems like back aches, and physical symptoms

Surgery is always a gamble…as I said before I don’t care what you do

It sounds to me like you are looking for some sort of validation for your decsion…I am not going to give it ,nor with hold it. It’s not my business
 
I can only speak of my concerns as I see them.

What happens to my girls when they grow up to be A cups? I worry that there will no longer be beautiful, proud, *feminine *examples of small-chested women. Those older models will all have been surgically “fixed.”

I worry about what happens after I nurse #4. Whereas my grandmother probably laughed with a few other older ladies about how the breasts of their youth “disappeared” after nursing their kids, will my peers just simply ask, “So, when’s your surgery?”

I worry about the commodification of the female breast. I fear it has become something that can be opened and sewed up, bought and sold, upsized and downsized, replaced with formula, used to advertise tee-shirt slogans, etc, etc.

I know the self esteem issues are real, trust me, I know, but I sicerely worry that this type of surgery somehow transfers the hurt from the individual to, I don’t know . . . our culture? the next generation of ladies? I’m not sure.

After the birth of my third child, a big dose of depression threw me right into this issue. So, I don’t take it lightly. But I came to see little holiness in the decision to augment, and found a deep appreciation for my God giving me a healthy, working, beautiful body. I pray my daughters will continue to view their bodies as they now do–with childlike innocence and a natural assumption that God made them well.
 
I’ve never really understood the ‘be happy with how God made’ you arguement.

We shave, we cut our hair, rather than leaving the proper length to God’s discretion.

And I’m not sure when ‘vanity’ kicks in: so long as my clothes don’t actually smell, isn’t worrying about stains and soil also vanity? I’m using resources I could donate to the poor to wash and dry them.

A woman could donate the augmentation budget to breast cancer research instead, but then again, most of us could live in a 200 ft home with a single room and bunkbeds in the kitchen area, donate that money to the homeless, but we don’t do that, either. Is that a sin?

How much of this world’s wealth, earned by the sweat of our own brows, are we allowed to keep for ourselves?
 
redrosetea said:
I don’t care what you do. I will say one thing, self esteem can’t be bought surgically…If you don’t like yourself because of a small bust, your problems might be more than skin deep
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This is incorrect. Many people who have undergone cosmetic surgery say that it has made all the difference.
 
Cosmetic surgery is addictive for lots of people…they are never done tinkering with their looks…If it worked for them there would be no need to continue to get tweaked
 
How many of us had braces on our teeth as youths???

It’s not a big deal if you’re doing it for yourself and not to show-off to other people. A ‘B’ cup is hardly going to be noticeable to other people and if it makes you feel more feminine, go for it.

I colour my hair…does that mean that I am shallow or lack confindence in myself? I don’t see how breast augmentation is a sin if you’re doing it for yourself and plan on being discrete about it.
 
krissy343 said:
I’m struggling with this subject myself. OK, time to open up lol… I am 28 and have never been able to fill an A cup and even some AA cup bras are a bit big on me. I even weigh about 25 lbs more than I should for my height and frame size. When I weighed quite a bit less in my late teens, early 20’s, I actually wanted to gain weight because I thought it would make my breasts larger… No such luck! They grew a tiny bit, but still nothing that made a difference.
There is not a day that goes by that I don’t stress about it. I truly don’t feel like a woman. I am married and my husband says it doesn’t bother him (though he may be saying that to be nice). So, if I were to elect to get augmentation, it wouldn’t be for vanity purposes it would be to make me feel more womanly. I’m talking a B cup, nothing dramatic. I guess wanting to be able to fit into clothes better would classify as a vanity issue, but I don’t think that automatically makes it wrong.
I don’t know if I’m wanting to receive approval from posting this or whether I just want to get it off my chest (definitely no pun intended!)
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Well, it’s not forbidden by the Church, so if you can afford it, why not? Some people might tell you that there are other things on which you could spend your money. Under that logic, you shouldn’t buy anything besides the essential food, clothing, and shelter. In reality, however, God permits us to use our money to buy things for pleasure.
 
redrosetea said:
Cosmetic surgery is addictive for lots of people…they are never done tinkering with their looks…If it worked for them there would be no need to continue to get tweaked
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There are a few people like that. Most people who obtain cosmetic surgery do not fall into that extreme category, however.
 
Sam_Maloney said:
How much of this world’s wealth, earned by the sweat of our own brows, are we allowed to keep for ourselves?
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That’s a whole other question that has probably been dealt with before.

My understanding is that you care for self and family, keep out of debt and although we have an obligation to the poor and needy the Church leaves it to our discretion.

There are some things I don’t spend money on as I regard it as immoral while others are starving, but I still live comfortably and well. I’m not a saint, nor am I called to those privations.
 
Cam I have no idea what the statistics are, but they are playing and deadly game…Any surgery should be considered dangerous…Some lady that was the mother of a popular black singer, died about a year ago from plastic surgery…
a face lift…I can’t recall her name ,nor the name of her son, who was heart broken…
 
Sam_Maloney said:
I’ve never really understood the ‘be happy with how God made’ you arguement.

We shave, we cut our hair, rather than leaving the proper length to God’s discretion.
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I’ve never been put under anesthesia for a hair cut. I’ve never had to sign a form acknowledging the risk of death for a hair cut.

And yes, I do consider money when I go for a hair cut, at some point spending hundreds on beauty parlors due to vanity is sinful. That’s why as a teen I decided my plain brown hair with the totally random silver stripe on the side, was just plain awesome and funky.

Sometimes being cool with God’s quirkiness is awesome and freeing.

But I don’t think this is what this thread is about. This isn’t about shirt stains and hair-dos. This is about an issue that can really cut women to the core. Sorry, I just have a tough time seeing a good comparison between the two. I see you are just taking the vanity case to the extreme, but the consequences of a bad hair cut/bad laundering and a botched breast augmentation seem to put the issues into different categories, IMHO.
 
My take, for what it is worth.

I am always confused about the entire idea of breast augmentaion (or whatever it may be termed). Maybe I am in the minority, but I do not equate breast size with physical attraction AT ALL.

I simply do no find a woman with meduim or large breasts any more attractive then a woman with small breasts.

Don’t see the correlation between breast size and the measure of physical attractiveness. I also do not see how it is more sexually stimulating.

Guess I am in the minority.:confused:

My suggestion would be, obviously, do not do it. It is artificial and artificial body parts can NEVER be as beautiful as God given ones.
 
Sam_Maloney said:
And I’m not sure when ‘vanity’ kicks in: so long as my clothes don’t actually smell, isn’t worrying about stains and soil also vanity? I’m using resources I could donate to the poor to wash and dry them.
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Excuse me, sir, but do you have a newsletter? 😃

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I am not sure what the theology behind all this is. I tend to think that surgery done for reparative purposes would be fine, certainly. That’s reinstalling your original operating system, not upgrading to a whole new version. And if your original OS happens to be buggy, nothing wrong with getting the latest patch, just don’t go buying Vis- er, I mean, the “next generation,” because it will have its own bugs, too, and where does it end? You’ll just end up wishing they still sold the old OS so you wouldn’t be sitting there giving yourself permission to view your own stuff every time you want to open a file or install something…er. Anyway.

Just my two cents. :o
 
redrosetea said:
Cam I have no idea what the statistics are, but they are playing and deadly game…Any surgery should be considered dangerous…Some lady that was the mother of a popular black singer, died about a year ago from plastic surgery…
a face lift…I can’t recall her name ,nor the name of her son, who was heart broken…
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It’s a matter of probability and benefit versus risk. Yes, any surgery carries a risk. So does riding in a car. So does eating food purchased from a store – look at all the poor children who recently became ill from the tainted milk powder. We are not obliged to stay away from any risk. We are permitted to weigh the benefits versus the risk and make a decision. For some people, the benefits of surgery, even for medical reasons, do not outweigh the risk. For others, cosmetic surgery is worth the risk. The vast majority of cosmetic surgeries do not result in serious complications, but the worst cases are the most likely to get publicized.
 
This is kind of an old thread but I just wanted to add in a different viewpoint. What about women who want surgery to change their shape? Everywhere breasts are supposed to be round and perky but what about women who aren’t shaped that way? I have grappled with the idea of getting surgery to change the shape of my breasts because I have never been comfortable with them. I’m not saying I want a huge fake chest to attract others, I just want to feel good in my own skin and feel like I have “breasts” not weird shaped objects on my chest.😦
 
Wow, weird reading back over the comments now that I’ve had it done, I wonder if Krissy (I think) ever got her augmentation. I think people don’t realize how many women are walking around wearing “chicken cutlets”, so what’s the big deal if I simply move them on the inside instead of the outside? Now I don’t have to worry about them peaking out of the top of my bra or flopping out if I bend over to pick something up.

I think before anyone wants to post saying breast augmentation is a sin needs to go to a site with before and after photos and see what the reality is. I’ll say it, we look like a bunch of circus freaks. An earlier poster said that larger breasts don’t make a woman more beautiful, true. But there is something that can be said for remeding a very, very, ugly looking part of your body. And again, this body part is more closely bound to our identity as women than say really messed up teeth, or a crooked nose.

Go to the site breastimplants411.com/ You will never find yourself less turned on by page after page of breasts. I was in the A-cup category (actually didn’t even measure that!) and if you look at the women there, there’s not a one I would say DIDN’T need the surgery.

In His Love,
Joyce
 
Go to the site breastimplants411.com/ You will never find yourself less turned on by page after page of breasts. I was in the A-cup category (actually didn’t even measure that!) and if you look at the women there, there’s not a one I would say DIDN’T need the surgery.
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Wow, thread necromancy … It’s funny you say that, though, because I’m coming the opposite direction, and easily half of the women in the group starting w/ A cup that I saw began with what I’d be thrilled w/ for my post-op results. (I’m going from a G to whatever I end up as, but I really hope no bigger than B. I could tolerate a C only because I still intend to lose around 37 more pounds, but I’m also expecting to get back into a 32 band when I lose the rest of the weight.)

I wouldn’t say it is a sin to have the augmentation (nor would I think it necessary to have the implants removed for non-health reasons), but it does seem much harder to justify w/ respect to the risks being taken (which don’t end when the surgery recovery is complete) compared to whatever benefits are obtained.

Insurance will be paying for my surgery (and I’m hoping for relief from back aches and the occasional numbness down my arms when my bra straps compress a nerve). And in the petty category, I am looking forward to being able to buy my bras at Target or another local store instead of having to go mail order and pay $60/each for something that will contain them.
 
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