OK, OK I've cracked.

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Welcome to enlightenment. Welcome to humanity, where we just live a good life amongst ourselves because we want to, without having to bow down to imagined and what would be mostly hellish, malevolent deities if they did exist as the various religions describe them. We don’t need to look outside of ourselves.

Whatever you do, don’t fall for the old argument you will get constantly from religious people about where our knowledge of goodness and evil comes from. We don’t have to know. Even if it comes from some incomprehensible (to us) life form or entity or force of some kind, it’s very unlikely to be a God as described in any religion. That knowledge of what is good and what is evil comes “from somewhere” is irrelevant. That somewhere had nothing to do with the mythologies and fables foisted on humankind by the religious clergies over the centuries and millenia, and it has nothing to do with the Nicene or the Apostolic creeds.

Once you have the courage to step back and look at it, you realize how absurd the whole thing is - not just the Catholic Church, but all of them.
Welcome to anti-religious Athiest bigotry. Why is it people who like to have a written down moral compass are always persected by anti-religious “Socialist/Humanist” society?

That is hypocracy.

I’m Sorry, But I’m a Human, I’m a part of Humanity, just like everyone on this forum. Yet in Modern society, because I don’t think I have the right to decide what is right and wrong and play God, I am persecuted and ousted by non-religious people who supposedly stand for “Humanity” and “freedom” and “enlightenment”. But oh yes to athiests, none of those have anything to do with the idea of religion… oh no, you must be Athiest to qualify to be called one of those terms!

You know there is such a thing as “Religious Humanity”(a subcategory of Humanity), “Freedom of Religion” and “Religious Enlightenment”…

Athiesm, to me anyway, is really a form of anti-Religious Fascism, hypocracy(Athiesm is a religion yet most of it’s propogaters want to stop other religions?) and bigotry. Really you should stop saying your religion is the only one which is “humanist” and stands for “enlightened freedom”. Every religion is humanist and tries to stand for enlightened freedom of some sort. Without “Freedom of Religion” there is no such thing as freedom.
 
Once you have the courage to step back and look at it, you realize how absurd the whole thing is - not just the Catholic Church, but all of them.
Except for you, of course, oh Enlightened One! :rolleyes:

The funny thing is, you DON’T know what the Catholic Church even teaches, or why it does. It’s just easier for you to blindly assume you must know the answers to every question in the universe, and that this gives you the right to preemptively label everything you don’t like “absurd”.
 
As for the OP… If you’re done, you’re done.

Personally, I don’t think you really believe what you’re saying.

“SO WHAT” indeed!! If you truly didn’t care one way or the other, as you claim, you would have just stopped paying attention to this forum. Instead you find yourself coming back for more, posting another not-so-subtle cry for help.
 
As for the OP… If you’re done, you’re done.

Personally, I don’t think you really believe what you’re saying.

“SO WHAT” indeed!! If you truly didn’t care one way or the other, as you claim, you would have just stopped paying attention to this forum. Instead you find yourself coming back for more, posting another not-so-subtle cry for help.
I only really come here for kicks. its somewhat funny seing how caught up in religion you all can get, and how amazingly silly it sounds to me at times. and its also a time filler. i also wanted to post this so people know i’m no longer a devout wiccan. im a ‘me’. im a person who does infact think that religion, while all good and well, sometimes causes people to obsess. obsess over the things i said before. so you may all think this is the beginning of me being catholic, by telling me that god loves me, and i more that appreciate it, but seriously, when i become a catholic, the universe wil split into with laughter.
 
I only really come here for kicks. its somewhat funny seing how caught up in religion you all can get, and how amazingly silly it sounds to me at times. and its also a time filler. i also wanted to post this so people know i’m no longer a devout wiccan. im a ‘me’. im a person who does infact think that religion, while all good and well, sometimes causes people to obsess. obsess over the things i said before. so you may all think this is the beginning of me being catholic, by telling me that god loves me, and i more that appreciate it, but seriously, when i become a catholic, the universe wil split into with laughter.
You read a Catholic forum, and think we all obsess over religion ???

I guess you think this is all we do.

None of us are involved in society at all hey.

We all just think religion, religion, religion, because that is all you see us type.

I feel sorry for you that you are so bored that you need to fill in time on a religious forum when you aren’t religious.

We will all pray for you.
 
hear hear It nice to talk in places like this or church or whereever but talking to God is best.

Wammy there is a great lady that did write a book called " God loves cracked pots" He is the potter and we are the clay!
He can mend those cracks.

Try just reading the promises of God and you will see how good He is. 🙂 the rest of us will only drive you nuts!
Are you thinking of “God Uses Cracked Pots”? by Patsy Clairmont? I love that book. It’s not even that God mends our cracks, but that He can work with them. I love that idea! I’m surely cracked.

patsyclairmont.com/biography.html
 
This thread is very interesting. Contrast the indignation of the OP with their interests listed on their profile page, which include “laughing at people” and “sabotaging people”.
 
I only really come here for kicks. its somewhat funny seing how caught up in religion you all can get, and how amazingly silly it sounds to me at times. and its also a time filler. i also wanted to post this so people know i’m no longer a devout wiccan. im a ‘me’. im a person who does infact think that religion, while all good and well, sometimes causes people to obsess. obsess over the things i said before. so you may all think this is the beginning of me being catholic, by telling me that god loves me, and i more that appreciate it, but seriously, when i become a catholic, the universe wil split into with laughter.
Be careful, there, Wammy101. I’m sure Saul had very similar ideas as he traveled the road to Damascus to round up some Christians for prosecution. While I’m pretty sure you’re so Saul, lemme tell ya, I’ve known a few hard eggs to get “cracked.” Some of the most fervent Christians are people who for years never dreamed it could happen to them.
 
Are you thinking of “God Uses Cracked Pots”? by Patsy Clairmont? I love that book. It’s not even that God mends our cracks, but that He can work with them. I love that idea! I’m surely cracked.

patsyclairmont.com/biography.html
yes tundramom thats her, couldnt think of her name!

and wammy you just dont know it but Gods pursing you, its no mistake or boredom that you wander by, besides it was a good conversation for everyone! 🙂
 
…and I thought of this story/parable from India. Did Ms. Clairmont use this for the inspiration for her book?

The Cracked Pot

A water bearer in India had two large pots, each hung on each end of a pole which he carried across his neck. One of the pots had a crack in it, and while the other pot was perfect and always delivered a full portion of water at the end of the long walk from the stream to the masters house, the cracked pot arrived only half full. For a full two years this went on daily, with the bearer delivering only one and a half pots full of water in his masters house.
Of course, the perfect pot was proud of its accomplishments, perfect to the end for which it was made. But the poor cracked pot was ashamed of its own imperfection, and miserable that it was able to accomplish only half of what it had been made to do.
After two years of what it perceived to be a bitter failure, it spoke to the water bearer one day by the stream. “I am ashamed of myself, and I want to apologize to you.”
“Why?” asked the bearer. “What are you ashamed of?”
“I have been able, for these past two years, to deliver only half my load because this crack in my side causes water to leak out all the way back to your masters house. Because of my flaws, you have to do all of this work, and you don’t get full value from your efforts.” The pot said.
The water bearer felt sorry for the old cracked pot, and in his compassion he said, “As we return to the masters house, I want you to notice the beautiful flowers along the path.”
Indeed, as they went up the hill, the old cracked pot took notice of the sun warming the beautiful wild flowers on the side of the path, and this cheered it some. But at the end of the trail, it still felt bad because it had leaked out half its load, and so again the Pot apologized to the bearer for its failure.
The bearer said to the pot, “Did you notice that there were flowers only on your side of your path, but not on the other pots side? That’s because I have always known about your flaw, and I took advantage of it. I planted flower seeds on your side of the path, and every day while we walk back from the stream, you’ve watered them. For two years I have been able to pick these beautiful flowers to decorate my masters table. Without you being just the way you are, he would not have this beauty to grace his house.” Each of us has our own unique flaws. We re all cracked pots. But if we will allow it, the Lord will use our flaws to grace His Fathers table. In Gods great economy, nothing goes to waste. Don’t be afraid of your flaws. Acknowledge them, and you too can be the cause of beauty. Know that in our weakness we find our strength.
Are you thinking of “God Uses Cracked Pots”? by Patsy Clairmont? I love that book. It’s not even that God mends our cracks, but that He can work with them. I love that idea! I’m surely cracked.

patsyclairmont.com/biography.html
 
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