Okay.. WHAT is up with the smurfs??

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so what is the big deal with the jw’s hating the smurfs??? i only knew about that when i came to CAF, so what is the deal with the witnesses and their dislike of smurfs?
 
Because the Watchtower Soceity has a secret teaching against songs that are made predominantly of “La”. This is also why they don’t celebrate Christmas since many carols possess the “Devils Tone”!!!

OK, in all seriousness I’d say it probably has something to do with the magic. I’m not sure but are Jw’s sensitive about that?
 
I don’t know about the smurfs thing but I do recall, back in the early 80s, when I associated with them, that we were not permitted to use the words bulletin board or crucifixion.
For the life of me I can’t recall the reasoning behind the bulletin board thing.
 
catsrus said:
I don’t know about the smurfs thing but I do recall, back in the early 80s, when I associated with them, that we were not permitted to use the words bulletin board or crucifixion.
For the life of me I can’t recall the reasoning behind the bulletin board thing.
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maybe because it had the words bullets in it? seriously, some of the heads there need to be examined!!! :rolleyes:
 
Well if they don’t like the Smurfs then I guess that means they don’t like puppies. If they don’t like puppies then I’m afraid that they’re communists… 😦
 
maybe they are simply worried, because smurfs are so cute and God may choose them as the “saved elect” (can’t remember exactly how many) instead of them? Okay, bad joke… sorry!

I’ve never head that JW’s don’t like smurfs… interesting. hope we get a proper answer to this.
 
Marilena said:
maybe because it had the words bullets in it? seriously, some of the heads there need to be examined!!! :rolleyes:
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…Or common etymology with [papal] bull…? sheesh! :rolleyes:

The real reason they are anti-smurfy: There is only one smurfette for all the smurfs, instead of the other way around (Oh wait: That’s the reason why the *Mormons *are anti-smurfy :rotfl: )

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rtconstant said:
Well if they don’t like the Smurfs then I guess that means they don’t like puppies. If they don’t like puppies then I’m afraid that they’re communists… 😦
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I dunno – My (apostate Catholic) neighbor got tired of their frequent knocking on the door. So one day he feigned interest, but asked that they first join him in pledging allegiance to the flag, and when they refused he cursed them as no-good un-american so-and-sos and he thinks they’ve marked his house, because none has come knocking since! :eek:

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Maybe because the JWs remember the Smurfs were created by Krishna devotees–Yup I’m serious–or at least thats what I heard!

Smurf’s are blue, so’s Krishna

Smurfs live in communalistic, male-prodominat organization (ONE girl Smurf!)

When one Smurf wanders off, the rest of the Smurfs get upset and go looking for him
 
Do the JWs have a position on Barney? Or should this questpm gp to Fr. Fred in Orange County?:rotfl:
 
The JW’s might be opposed to the Smurfs marxist ideals.

The Smurf Village itself is a perfect model of a socialist commune or collective. It is self-reliant, and the land is not owned by individuals, but by the entire collective of all the Smurfs, if the word ‘owned’ is even appropriate.

Papa Smurf represents Karl Marx. He is not so much the leader of the Smurfs as an equal revered by the others for his age and wisdom. He has a beard, as did Marx, and thus could conceivably be a caricature as well. And lastly, he wears red, which is the traditional colour of socialism. Brainy Smurf could represent Trotsky. He is the only one in the village who comes close to matching Papa’s intellect - he is a thinker. With his round spectacles, he could also be a caricature of Trotsky. He is often isolated, ridiculed or even ejected from the commune of the village for his ideas. And of course, Trotsky was banished from the USSR.

Despite their different professions/distinctions, the Smurfs are all completely equal. Thus, while the occupations of certain Smurfs, such as Farmer, Handy and Greedy, are more important than others, such as Clumsy, Grouchy, or Lazy, there is no feeling that certain Smurfs are superior or inferior to others because of their work, or level of skill, because ultimately, everyone is a Smurf first.

Economically, the Smurf Village is closed-market. There is no money, and all possessions are communal - property of the collective. Everyone is equally a worker and an owner. The Smurfs reject the idea of a free-market economy, with its greed and inequities, and the collective is more important and valuable than the individual. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. John Lennon asked us to ‘imagine no possessions’. The Smurf Village achieves that goal. In fact, many of the ideas expressed in that song are reality in the Village. There is one large piece of capital, or produced means of production, in the Smurf Village: the dam. It is owned, operated and repaired by the entire collective.
The Smurfs all refer to one another by the same title; ‘Smurf’. Eg, Brainy Smurf, Handy Smurf, Jokey Smurf, Lazy Smurf, Papa Smurf. This is highly reminiscent of socialist states’ use of the word ‘comrade’ when referring to others, instead of more elitist titles.

Adding to the idea of complete equality in the Village, most of the Smurfs wear the same kind and colour of clothes. It is a general work uniform, and with the distinctive caps and blue skin, is highly reminiscent of the so-called Mao Suit, common in Maoist China.
In the tradition of pure Marxism, the Smurf Village is atheist. There is no god, and there is no Priest Smurf. There are only the ‘real’ forces of nature and physics, and these are represented metaphorically by the characters of Mother Nature and Father Time. Of course, there is also magic, as practised by Papa, Gargomel, Balthazar and others, but it is simply another tool, something that occurs in nature, that has physical properties and can be tapped into, with the right know-how. It is not, as many religions are, a way of understanding the universe in a supernatural context.

Gargomel’s ginger cat, Azrael, represents the worker in the ruthless, free-market state that is Gargomel’s house. He is uncomplaining, or, since he has no voice (ie. Trade Unions), is metaphorically unable to complain. He cannot negotiate his wage - he eats whatever he is given by his master. He is smaller and less well-off than Gargomel, and metaphorically, he represents the proletariat, while Gargomel represents the bourgeoise. Azrael is exploited and oppressed.
the internet REALLY does have everything
author: J Marc Schmidt
source: geocities.com/Hollywood/Cinema/3117/sociosmurf2.htm
 
thechrismyster said:
The JW’s might be opposed to the Smurfs marxist ideals.

The Smurf Village itself is a perfect model of a socialist commune or collective. It is self-reliant, and the land is not owned by individuals, but by the entire collective of all the Smurfs, if the word ‘owned’ is even appropriate.

Papa Smurf represents Karl Marx. He is not so much the leader of the Smurfs as an equal revered by the others for his age and wisdom. He has a beard, as did Marx, and thus could conceivably be a caricature as well. And lastly, he wears red, which is the traditional colour of socialism. Brainy Smurf could represent Trotsky. He is the only one in the village who comes close to matching Papa’s intellect - he is a thinker. With his round spectacles, he could also be a caricature of Trotsky. He is often isolated, ridiculed or even ejected from the commune of the village for his ideas. And of course, Trotsky was banished from the USSR.

Despite their different professions/distinctions, the Smurfs are all completely equal. Thus, while the occupations of certain Smurfs, such as Farmer, Handy and Greedy, are more important than others, such as Clumsy, Grouchy, or Lazy, there is no feeling that certain Smurfs are superior or inferior to others because of their work, or level of skill, because ultimately, everyone is a Smurf first.

Economically, the Smurf Village is closed-market. There is no money, and all possessions are communal - property of the collective. Everyone is equally a worker and an owner. The Smurfs reject the idea of a free-market economy, with its greed and inequities, and the collective is more important and valuable than the individual. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. John Lennon asked us to ‘imagine no possessions’. The Smurf Village achieves that goal. In fact, many of the ideas expressed in that song are reality in the Village. There is one large piece of capital, or produced means of production, in the Smurf Village: the dam. It is owned, operated and repaired by the entire collective.
The Smurfs all refer to one another by the same title; ‘Smurf’. Eg, Brainy Smurf, Handy Smurf, Jokey Smurf, Lazy Smurf, Papa Smurf. This is highly reminiscent of socialist states’ use of the word ‘comrade’ when referring to others, instead of more elitist titles.

Adding to the idea of complete equality in the Village, most of the Smurfs wear the same kind and colour of clothes. It is a general work uniform, and with the distinctive caps and blue skin, is highly reminiscent of the so-called Mao Suit, common in Maoist China.
In the tradition of pure Marxism, the Smurf Village is atheist. There is no god, and there is no Priest Smurf. There are only the ‘real’ forces of nature and physics, and these are represented metaphorically by the characters of Mother Nature and Father Time. Of course, there is also magic, as practised by Papa, Gargomel, Balthazar and others, but it is simply another tool, something that occurs in nature, that has physical properties and can be tapped into, with the right know-how. It is not, as many religions are, a way of understanding the universe in a supernatural context.

Gargomel’s ginger cat, Azrael, represents the worker in the ruthless, free-market state that is Gargomel’s house. He is uncomplaining, or, since he has no voice (ie. Trade Unions), is metaphorically unable to complain. He cannot negotiate his wage - he eats whatever he is given by his master. He is smaller and less well-off than Gargomel, and metaphorically, he represents the proletariat, while Gargomel represents the bourgeoise. Azrael is exploited and oppressed.
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author: J Marc Schmidt
source: geocities.com/Hollywood/Cinema/3117/sociosmurf2.htm
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Wow 🙂
You have obviously given this a lot thought
Thank you for explaining the issue thoroughly for me!!!
But what about the Blue Man Group? Where do they stand :rolleyes:
 
Wow, I’m impressed!

I’ve never read such a deep expose of the Smurfs!
 
From what I can gather, apparently, back in the 80’s, there was a rumor among the JW’s that during one of their meetings, a stuffed Smurf got up from a chair and started berating the assembly. For a while the Smurfs were shunned and feared, but in recent years the JW’s seem to have gotten over this little legendary Smurf faux paux.
 
In 1983 at an all-Witness soccer game, a sister in her 20s related to us, in all dead seriousness, how Witness women whose children had Smurf dolls would feel something biting their ankles, only to look down and - horrors!! - the Smurf doll had come to life and was gnawing on their legs.

The JWs believed back in the early 80s that the Smurfs were demonized. One story had a Smurf doll coming alive in a Kingdom Hall and denouncing the talk and running up the aisle and out the door of the Kingdom Hall.

One woman had found that her children LOVED the taste of “Smurfberry Crunch” Cereal, which was just cereal with little cartoon Smurfs on the box. Well, all was going okay, when a couple of Elders paid her a visit. Spotting the Smurf-covered cereal box, the Elders emphatically instructed her to DESTROY the cereal RIGHT NOW and never purchase it again. The JW sister was heartbroken, cuz it was just about the only brand of cereal that her picky little kids enjoyed.
But she complied.

There are lots of accounts like this. To think that people in their 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s, would be terrified of a cereal box.

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