From the Jewish perspective, Torah Law in its entirety, including the kosher laws, is not binding on non-Jews. Only the Seven Laws of Noah are binding.The Jewish people do not eat pork. Our Lord never mentioned that we Catholics can eat pork. Where do I look this up or would you please tell me what the position is? I love pork and always eat it, but my husband is Jewish.
The Noahide laws are binding on non-Jews? By what authority?From the Jewish perspective, Torah Law in its entirety, including the kosher laws, is not binding on non-Jews. Only the Seven Laws of Noah are binding.
By the authority of Jewish Oral Law or Mishnah.The Noahide laws are binding on non-Jews? By what authority?
Didn’t God ask the Children of Israel for consent to govern them in Exodus 19? Sseing this example, how then can someone who is not Jewish be bound to the Noahide laws, since their consent may not have been granted?By the authority of Jewish Oral Law or Mishnah.
G-d governs over and loves all people, not just the Jewish people. The consent of the Jewish people was necessary for, while obedience to the Torah Law is “sweet as honey,” it is nonetheless a tremendous responsibility not to be taken lightly. But G-d’s moral law, which the Noahide laws encompass, is non-negotiable for anyone.Didn’t God ask the Children of Israel for consent to govern them in Exodus 19? Sseing this example, how then can someone who is not Jewish be bound to the Noahide laws, since their consent may not have been granted?
[Edit] – For reference: Exodus 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Thank you for the answer, but now I ask again, by what authority? I need something more concrete. Is there a Scripture or something where a law or set of laws were made non-negotiable?G-d governs over and loves all people, not just the Jewish people. The consent of the Jewish people was necessary for, while obedience to the Torah Law is “sweet as honey,” it is nonetheless a tremendous responsibility not to be taken lightly. But G-d’s moral law, which the Noahide laws encompass, is non-negotiable for anyone.
The Mishneh Torah, or Jewish Oral Law compiled in the Talmud, has as its basis the understanding that we are all descendants of the family of Noah after the flood. Noah was instructed in the Hebrew Bible not to eat the flesh of living animals and to establish a court of law. Further, the other Noachide Laws derive from the Talmudic interpretation of passages from Genesis, in which G-d makes clear what He expects of mankind in terms of morality: that is, prohibitions against murder, theft, idolatry, blasphemy, and sexual immorality.Thank you for the answer, but now I ask again, by what authority? I need something more concrete. Is there a Scripture or something where a law or set of laws were made non-negotiable?
Yes, I was doing some research and found the same thing. But I would assert they apply only to the people Of God during their time in the world. The reason this interests me is that in every case I’m aware, God asks for consent from his people to govern them. Even in the aftermath of the flood, God offers a covenant to Noah and his descendants.The Mishneh Torah, or Jewish Oral Law compiled in the Talmud, has as its basis the understanding that we are all descendants of the family of Noah after the flood. Noah was instructed in the Hebrew Bible not to eat the flesh of living animals and to establish a court of law. Further, the other Noachide Laws derive from the Talmudic interpretation of passages from Genesis, in which G-d makes clear what He expects of mankind in terms of morality: that is, prohibitions against murder, theft, idolatry, blasphemy, and sexual immorality.
Agreed. You know, there are at least 5 iterations of covenants in the OT, so it’s interesting how the old covenants mesh with the new covenant.But at the same time, I believe that if a Catholic chose to abide by the Old Testament laws, as a way to be closer to God and/or his family, that there is nothing wrong with that. I recall that in Acts, it was decided by Peter through the Holy Spirit, that the gentiles did not have to abide by the old laws. But at the same time there was nothing saying that the Jewish Christians had to give them up.
It is the opinion of St. Thomas (which should not be dismissed lightly), that observing the ceremonial laws is a mortal sin. At the very least, I think it is a slap in the face to God to live as if Christ never came. By observing the old laws, you are outwardly professing faith in a Christ yet to come while Jesus Christ already came and gave up his life for you.But at the same time, I believe that if a Catholic chose to abide by the Old Testament laws, as a way to be closer to God and/or his family, that there is nothing wrong with that. I recall that in Acts, it was decided by Peter through the Holy Spirit, that the gentiles did not have to abide by the old laws. But at the same time there was nothing saying that the Jewish Christians had to give them up.
It seems that Christianity interprets the Law in the Hebrew Bible as pointing toward the future Messiah, or Son of G-d, as the source of salvation for humanity. Judaism, on the other hand, does not regard the Messiah as the equivalent of G-d and, just as significant, does not focus on the Law as a means to an end, that is, the coming of the Messiah. Rather, it focuses on following the Law per se as an end in that the Law teaches us how to love G-d and our neighbor. This, I think, is the crux of the distinction between Christianity and Judaism, apart from their specific doctrinal differences.From Romans and Galatians in particular, it is clear that the Old Law is not binding on anyone because it only pointed forward to Christ.
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:23-26)
It is the opinion of St. Thomas (which should not be dismissed lightly), that observing the ceremonial laws is a mortal sin. At the very least, I think it is a slap in the face to God to live as if Christ never came. By observing the old laws, you are outwardly professing faith in a Christ yet to come while Jesus Christ already came and gave up his life for you.
On the contrary, The Apostle says (Galatians 5:2): “If you be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.” But nothing save mortal sin hinders us from receiving Christ’s fruit. Therefore since Christ’s Passion it is a mortal sin to be circumcised, or to observe the other legal ceremonies.
I answer that, All ceremonies are professions of faith, in which the interior worship of God consists. Now man can make profession of his inward faith, by deeds as well as by words: and in either profession, if he make a false declaration, he sins mortally. Now, though our faith in Christ is the same as that of the fathers of old; yet, since they came before Christ, whereas we come after Him, the same faith is expressed in different words, by us and by them. For by them was it said: “Behold a virgin shall conceive and bear a son,” where the verbs are in the future tense: whereas we express the same by means of verbs in the past tense, and say that she “conceived and bore.” In like manner the ceremonies of the Old Law betokened Christ as having yet to be born and to suffer: whereas our sacraments signify Him as already born and having suffered. Consequently, just as it would be a mortal sin now for anyone, in making a profession of faith, to say that Christ is yet to be born, which the fathers of old said devoutly and truthfully; so too it would be a mortal sin now to observe those ceremonies which the fathers of old fulfilled with devotion and fidelity. Such is the teaching Augustine (Contra Faust. xix, 16), who says: “It is no longer promised that He shall be born, shall suffer and rise again, truths of which their sacraments were a kind of image: but it is declared that He is already born, has suffered and risen again; of which our sacraments, in which Christians share, are the actual representation.”
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