On Creation in Genesis

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I’m slowly working through a Jewish commentary on Genesis. It is quite an exhaustive commentary on the Hebrew text. I’m working around Chapter 26, the marriage of Rebekah and Isaac.

Is the Litteral study Catholic oriented? I bookmarked it but I don’t have time to look it over right now.

The Jewish commentary highlights the literary aspects of Genesis, which impresses me. There is quite a disciplined literary structure. And, the author highlights, of course, the unique Jewish aspects of the book, This book has about 400 pages.

A lot of synogogues read and study the Torah on a three-year cycle. It may take me that long to get through all the other Torah commentaries I recently obtained.
 
I am working on a commentary on the book of Genesis and I have finished the first 2 chapters on Creation here litteralchristianlibrary.wetpaint.com/page/Commentary+on+Genesis+by+John+Litteral

It is strictly a concise and literal interpretation based upon Church teaching and the Church Fathers.
This is certainly great stuff, with faithful reference to Church teachings and those of the Early Church Fathers.

Roman Catholics have frequently yearn for “verse-by-verse” explanation of Sacred Scriptures and compare Catholic Biblical teachings to Non-Catholic explanations.

Congratulations and God Bless you in your work as its completion (bit by bit) will be an excellent source for Biblical study and Reflection.

Richard
 
I am working on a commentary on the book of Genesis and I have finished the first 2 chapters on Creation here litteralchristianlibrary.wetpaint.com/page/Commentary+on+Genesis+by+John+Litteral

It is strictly a concise and literal interpretation based upon Church teaching and the Church Fathers.
I frequently visit your site all things. I noticed that St.Bede the Venerable’s works are upon request. I hope to see more of his works incorporated in to your site. I haven’t been to the site yet today. So I will be sure to take a look at commentary on the book of Genesis
 
Thank you all for your very kind words!
Thank you. I am curious: the Holy Father has written somewhere that Genesis is a kind of demythololgy of polytheism, a kind of anti-mythology. Do you touch upon the relationship between Genesis and the pagan myths?
 
Thank you. I am curious: the Holy Father has written somewhere that Genesis is a kind of demythololgy of polytheism, a kind of anti-mythology. Do you touch upon the relationship between Genesis and the pagan myths?
Fortunately we are not required to believe the same way the Pope does on higher criticism and related things, because I do hold different positions as he does on many things in that area, he leans towards what many modern scholars teach. I am very much a traditionalist and I always seek out what the Church Fathers believed when it comes to those things that are not articles of Faith.

As for the relationship between Genesis and pagan myths, I have not touched upon that so far since I am only concerned with providing a concise commentary and not so much taking an apologetic approach, but I have put together a short article concerning something that is closely related. litteralchristianlibrary.wetpaint.com/page/Christianity+Draws+From+Other+Religions%3F
 
Fortunately we are not required to believe the same way the Pope does on higher criticism and related things, because I do hold different positions as he does on many things in that area, he leans towards what many modern scholars teach. I am very much a traditionalist and I always seek out what the Church Fathers believed when it comes to those things that are not articles of Faith.

As for the relationship between Genesis and pagan myths, I have not touched upon that so far since I am only concerned with providing a concise commentary and not so much taking an apologetic approach, but I have put together a short article concerning something that is closely related. litteralchristianlibrary.wetpaint.com/page/Christianity+Draws+From+Other+Religions%3F
Read your link. Then Genesis is a revelation of the true order of things that was expressed in confused and contradictory form in paganism?
 
Read your link. Then Genesis is a revelation of the true order of things that was expressed in confused and contradictory form in paganism?
No, I don’t think there is anything confusing about it, and surely nothing pagan about it. The article expresses that all the Biblical truth that we know that has things in common with other religions and mythology means that Christianity did not draw from them but God has allowed others throughout history to get glimses of truth here and there that happen to be correct, while Christianity contains the whole truth divinely reveal to it by God.
 
I did a quick search for Enuma Elish, the Akkadian creation myth, and it came back with my first post on this forum 3 years ago forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=105371&highlight=enuma+elish

There’s also the tale of Enki and Ninhursag, gatewaystobabylon.com/gods/partnerships/enkininhur3.html which has parallels with the motif of eating forbidden plants, being expelled from paradise, and the creation of man from the **rib **of a woman.
(Yeah, the original story was in reverse).

I think the gist of it is that the Hebrews used the Akkadian creation stories as a background to explain their beliefs. Similar form, completely different conclusions.
 
I think the gist of it is that the Hebrews used the Akkadian creation stories as a background to explain their beliefs. Similar form, completely different conclusions.
Totally backwards. God revealed to Moses what actually took place through divine revelation, while some other of the ancient creation accounts are products of God spreading the seeds of truth far and wide and then taking root in various forms and then getting mixed with pure myths by those outside of the covenant with God. There is a little truth in just about every religion because man can get glimpses of truth revealed to them outside of the one true Faith. But just because myths and religions contain some things similar to what the Bible reveals does not mean that the Biblical authors drew from those sources, because the Bible is inspired by God and contains the fullness of the written Truth. Modern day scholarship has created some ideas that do nothing but bring doubt to the inspiration of the Bible.
 
I frequently visit your site all things. I noticed that St.Bede the Venerable’s works are upon request. I hope to see more of his works incorporated in to your site. I haven’t been to the site yet today. So I will be sure to take a look at commentary on the book of Genesis
There are some things that I have on there of his, such as Commentary on Revelation, Commentary on Genesis, on 1 Kings, Ezra, and Tobit. Plus the Ancient Christian Commentary has a lot of his quotes which I have on the site. I search all the time for new commentaries of the Fathers to add to the collection, the more that gets put online the more I hope to find and add. I use his stuff for the Daily Mass Readings often, so you can also find commentary from him there as well as in the Past Mass Readings page. Also I have most of his commentary on James in the catena on James.
 
There are some things that I have on there of his, such as Commentary on Revelation, Commentary on Genesis, on 1 Kings, Ezra, and Tobit. Plus the Ancient Christian Commentary has a lot of his quotes which I have on the site. I search all the time for new commentaries of the Fathers to add to the collection, the more that gets put online the more I hope to find and add. I use his stuff for the Daily Mass Readings often, so you can also find commentary from him there as well as in the Past Mass Readings page. Also I have most of his commentary on James in the catena on James.
I got some commentary from that document from the Gospel of Mark. For my CRHP team that is one of our reading for May 3 to discuss. I also love the stuff that you have on St. Thomas Aquinas
 
I am working on a commentary on the book of Genesis and I have finished the first 2 chapters on Creation here litteralchristianlibrary.wetpaint.com/page/Commentary+on+Genesis+by+John+Litteral
It is strictly a concise and literal interpretation based upon Church teaching and the Church Fathers.
:1 In the beginning God made the heaven and the earth.

IGod- that is to say the Trinity, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

My observation
  • Can you be reading into the Scriptures because, (especially in attempting to explain the presence of the TRINITY from the beginning of Time)
    God in 1.1 would imply the Monotheistic God and only with later verses and the NT can we be clear that GOD is a Trinune God, the Father, Son and the Spirit.
  • I am inclined to explain the Trinune God…
    The Spirit of God moving over the waters (1:2)…and
    “Let us make man in our image after our likeness…” (1:26)
    Gospel of John (Prologue) and in with the fuller writings of the Christian Scriptures…
I will appreciate learning from you further on this understanding of verse 1.1
on a Literal understanding of “GOD” in understanding the Trinity at that time of writing, before the NT.

Thank you.
 
God in 1.1 would imply the Monotheistic God and only with later verses and the NT can we be clear that GOD is a Trinune God, the Father, Son and the Spirit.
  • I am inclined to explain the Trinune God…
    The Spirit of God moving over the waters (1:2)…and
    “Let us make man in our image after our likeness…” (1:26)
    Gospel of John (Prologue) and in with the fuller writings of the Christian Scriptures…
Hi Richard, actually, right there in the first verse of the Bible the Holy Trinity is hinted at. The Hebrew word is “Elohim”, the plural version of the word for God, “El”. And, as you pointed out, this becomes more clear right there in the first chapter of Genesis. God bless!
 
Hi Richard, actually, right there in the first verse of the Bible the Holy Trinity is hinted at. The Hebrew word is “Elohim”, the plural version of the word for God, “El”. And, as you pointed out, this becomes more clear right there in the first chapter of Genesis. God bless!
Thanks.
I am thinking more, that in the mind of the OT Hebrew/Jewish people…their focus is on the ONE GOD vs the Egyptians gods.
Hence, in Gn 1:1 on the “Literary level” can we be reding too much into the Scriptures?


Yes, I agree with you- from my internet search, that the Hebrew word

“We wondered, is it a curious bit of trivia, or could there be some meaningful codes regarding the Trinity that begin there? We decided that a series of searches starting in Genesis 1:1 using terms, such as Father (Abba), Father (Av), Son, Spirit, Jesus (Yeshua), Holy Spirit, and Holy Trinity, would assuage our curiosity. Furthermore, we decided to add to that searching for the terms utilizing Torah and Tanakh wrapped codes. With the exception of Holy Spirit and Holy Trinity, all of the terms were found starting in Genesis 1:1. Of note, none of the skips are larger than 889 and quite of few have very short skips, beginning with a skip of 2. Nathan Jacobi, Ph.D., parsed and translated the codes.”

Can you comment on my thoughts above?
 
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