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i asked an atheist why he doesn’t believe in miracles.

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The lack of good evidence for them.
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Now, if your definition of a miracle includes things like “childbirth”, then things are going to get convoluted. It’s sort of like saying “God is love”. Because if that’s all god is, then I believe in god. Similarly, if all miracles are is stuff like childbirth and sunsets, then I believe in miracles.
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where do i start with this guy?
 
He probably does believe in miracles, but he probably thinks that they are co-incidental, and not divine.

Belief in a miracle requires faith, but faith requires uncertainty. (I mean, if we were absolutely certain about something, there would be no room for faith.) I think the uncertainty and faith is bothering him.

Ask for his thoughts on Our Lady of Fatima. Thats my favourite miracle.
 
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In my opinion: NOT with miracles. 🙂

The Catechism teaches:
156 What moves us to believe is not the fact that revealed truths appear as true and intelligible in the light of our natural reason: we believe “because of the authority of God himself who reveals them, who can neither deceive nor be deceived”. So “that the submission of our faith might nevertheless be in accordance with reason, God willed that external proofs of his Revelation should be joined to the internal helps of the Holy Spirit.” Thus the miracles of Christ and the saints, prophecies, the Church’s growth and holiness, and her fruitfulness and stability “are the most certain signs of divine Revelation, adapted to the intelligence of all”; they are “motives of credibility” (motiva credibilitatis), which show that the assent of faith is “by no means a blind impulse of the mind”.

… which is why I (as a former atheist) was more moved by the internal helps of the Holy Spirit than with “miracles” that I had never seen or held doubt about their sources. I was moved by creation, love, life everlasting… things like that which I could think about and which ALL people can relate to. However, not everyone has experience with “miracles”.

Hope that helps.
 
I wonder How can there be so many people including catholics that dotn know a word about catholic miracles. the church is extremly rich in miracles and marian apparitions. especialy in europe.
 
Philosopher/professor/apologist/former atheist C.S. Lewis wrote a whole book on the subject. It’s called “Miracles,” and I highly recommend it.
 
Another great miracle for skeptics is the incorruptible body of St. Bernadette. She looks as though she is just asleep, while being dead for 128 years. Google search for this.
 
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