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Not wanting to start a fight on Saints and Mary. I believe we can ask them to pray for us anytime and their Prayer is powerful and strong. The Prayers that the Church has set are also Beautiful and Powerful.

What I want to know is if any one can help me Find a Way to Defend this belief using the Catholic Bible and then the protestant Bible, Because i was confronted on the rosary and praying to saints and Mary, and had no idea how to defend them with the Word of God.
 
Here are a couple of articles from THIS ROCK that will help:

catholic.com/library/Praying_to_the_Saints.asp

catholic.com/library/Intercession_of_the_Saints.asp

catholic.com/library/Saint_Worship.asp

Also, be sure to check out earlier posts on the subject on the Forum.
This is all Good thank you…

But what i need is something Straight from Scripture, since that is where Protestants seem to take everything were in the BIBLE is asking the saints and Mary to pray for us… I just want to be able to defend my Brothers and sisters in Heaven and my Holy Mother, using the same weapons that the Protestants use, or weapon that will take down their fortresses of Unbelief.
 
Not wanting to start a fight on Saints and Mary. I believe we can ask them to pray for us anytime and their Prayer is powerful and strong. The Prayers that the Church has set are also Beautiful and Powerful.

What I want to know is if any one can help me Find a Way to Defend this belief using the Catholic Bible and then the protestant Bible, Because i was confronted on the rosary and praying to saints and Mary, and had no idea how to defend them with the Word of God.
The Saints Can Hear Our Prayers Proved From Scripture

1. Jesus teaches from the Old Testament**

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“Have you not read in the book of Moses, in the account of the bush, how God said to him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!” (Mark 12:26-27)

In this teaching, Jesus tells us plainly that the Father is the God of the living.

2. Speaking with the “Dead” - Jesus teaches by parable
"There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ ‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”(Luke 16:19-31)

In this parable, Jesus has two of the “dead” characters in his story talking with one another, and one of the “dead” men intercedes on behalf of his living relatives.

3. Speaking with the “Dead” - Jesus teaches by personal example
“After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.” (Matthew 17:1-3)

At the transfiguration, Jesus was talking with two “dead” people, Moses and Elijah. They’re actually alive, though.

4. Speaking to the dead – Peter teaches by example

“Peter sent them all out of the room; then he got down on his knees and prayed. Turning toward the dead woman, he said, “Tabitha, get up.” She opened her eyes, and seeing Peter she sat up. He took her by the hand and helped her to her feet. Then he called the believers and the widows and presented her to them alive.” (Acts 9:40-41)****

5. Those in Heaven Hear Our Prayers - John teaches through prophetic revelation**

“He came and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne. And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.” (Revelation 5:7-8)

The 24 elders in heaven are men, and notice that they each have a golden bowl full of the prayers of the saints. That’s us since we’re all saints! So, how did they get hold of our prayers in order to offer them to God?

“Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden altar before the throne.” (Revelation 8:3)

Here, an angel also offers our prayers along with incense.
 
We ask our heavenly family members to pray with us, because those in heaven are our families, to add their prayers to ours in making requests of God.

Do not ask our protestant brothers and sisters ask our fellow Christians to add their prayers to yours…that is, to pray for their intentions? We ask our fellow Christians in heaven as well as those on earth, to join their prayers with ours

For scriptural references read FellowChristian’s posts on a recent thread, Praying to Saints
 
What I want to know is if any one can help me Find a Way to Defend this belief using the Catholic Bible and then the protestant Bible, Because i was confronted on the rosary and praying to saints and Mary, and had no idea how to defend them with the Word of God.
Between my article and John Martignoni’s excellent Bible study (linked in my article) you should be able to handle them pretty well. One good thing about JM’s stuff is that you can download the MP3 Bible study, burn it to a CD and give it to 'em. Be sure to keep a copy and study it yourself for next time.

You also have my permission to print my article and give it away. 👍
The Intercession & Communion of Saints
 
Thank you so much, Guys.

I will be reading and studying my rear end off. I will not be Caught off Guard again.

I am jsut so excited to finally have the truth, I want to know as much as I can about it. I am also excited as this Sunday I get to Sign the book of the Elect and then on Monday go and meet the Bishop.
 
Thank you so much, Guys.

I will be reading and studying my rear end off. I will not be Caught off Guard again.

I am just so excited to finally have the truth, I want to know as much as I can about it. I am also excited as this Sunday I get to Sign the book of the Elect and then on Monday go and meet the Bishop.
👍 God bless you!

Anyway, I have a link that I think you will find a real blessing.
Catholic Home Study Service

I have completed them all and they are really hard to beat. You will learn A TON! 🙂
 
Not wanting to start a fight on Saints and Mary. I believe we can ask them to pray for us anytime and their Prayer is powerful and strong. The Prayers that the Church has set are also Beautiful and Powerful.

What I want to know is if any one can help me Find a Way to Defend this belief using the Catholic Bible and then the protestant Bible, Because i was confronted on the rosary and praying to saints and Mary, and had no idea how to defend them with the Word of God.
scripturecatholic.com/saints.html
 
Ask the protestant to pray for you when they go home tonight. Ask them to pray for your safety, health, and for your salvation.

If they agree, and they will, ask them if doing so poses any doctrinal dillema to them. It won’t, it doesn’t violate anything and they all do it.

Then ask them to continue to pray for you in heaven should they precede you there and happen to make it there. And point out that is all you ask any of the others who have preceded you to do.

Any objection they raise should likewise apply to them in this present life as well praying for you. And if it doesn’t apply here it shouldn’t apply there either.

Unless they claim you are worshipping the saints in which case you can promise not to worship them after they die either.

And if they object about praying to a saint use the kings english on them from the KJV and say “I pray thee” to pray for me tonight.

For me this has been a hard thing to get to understand but now that I do its startling. Just giving you the answers that wroked on this protestant.
 
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