On the Death of the Anglican Communion

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I had read the article earlier today. The actions of the Primates, in my thinking, was to appease the GAFCON so they wouldn’t walk. But this was GAFCONS chance and they came up short. They had as much leverage as they will ever have and were not able to remove the apostates. TEC won’t change and in 3 years will say “we’ve served the punishment you meted, now we will continue as before”.

As one of the quotes on another site stated “how can we repent from that which is not sin?”. They don’t see their sin and the Bishops did not follow scripture in dealing with unrepentant sinners (remove them until they repent). They lost their chance, and with it I am afraid, the Communion.
 
I am afraid the Primates actions are too little and too late.
 
theropod said:
As usual, the Anglican Curmudgeon A. S. Haley provides unmatched analysis of events in the Anglican world.

accurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2016/01/on-death-of-anglican-communion.html

It’s long, but it’s a one stop shop for what happened this week.

Don’t worry, it’s not really dead.
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Yeah it’s not dead but it will definitely be evolving. I mean the ACinC is likely going to follow TEC’s lead. And I wouldn’t be surprised at all for the COE to follow suit before long. I mean as it is the COE is too “liberal” on some matters like women’s ordination for many of the conservative prelates and congregations in Africa and even the ACNA. A break between the two sides does seem inevitable if the African prelates don’t want to work within the Communion’s traditionally varied (as GKC says, motley) structure. And with GAFCON having already established their own hierarchy it’s not hard to see how a final division would occur with them already having their own communion within the communion.
 
theropod said:
As usual, the Anglican Curmudgeon A. S. Haley provides unmatched analysis of events in the Anglican world.

accurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2016/01/on-death-of-anglican-communion.html

It’s long, but it’s a one stop shop for what happened this week.

Don’t worry, it’s not really dead.
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Wait, I think there has been a mix up. This is the Family Synod, no?..

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Enough has leaked from the gathering to be able to form a picture of what went on. The Archbishop of Canterbury and his staff had tried to direct the progress of the group’s deliberations by resorting to a standby from ++Justin Welby’s corporate days: the RAND-developed group facilitation mechanism known as the “Delphi Technique.”
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That technique tries to direct an outcome by strictly controlling dissenting voices, and channeling them into increasingly ignorable “minority views”, with the object of developing a so-called “consensus” that in reality represents the carefully-preserved majority thread. The attendees are divided into small discussion groups which do not communicate with each other until after the supposed group “consensus” is announced by the facilitators, based solely on the carefully selected “majority” views in each mini-group.
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Attempting to use the Delphi method was certainly a miscalculation by Canterbury. It seems there’s a bit of an imperialist mindset left. The Africans are much, much sharper than they are given credit for.
 
theropod said:
Attempting to use the Delphi method was certainly a miscalculation by Canterbury. It seems there’s a bit of an imperialist mindset left. The Africans are much, much sharper than they are given credit for.
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See above. 😉
 
Padres1969 said:
Yeah it’s not dead but it will definitely be evolving. I mean the ACinC is likely going to follow TEC’s lead. And I wouldn’t be surprised at all for the COE to follow suit before long. I mean as it is the COE is too “liberal” on some matters like women’s ordination for many of the conservative prelates and congregations in Africa and even the ACNA. **A break between the two sides does seem inevitable if the African prelates don’t want to work within the Communion’s traditionally varied (as GKC says, motley) structure. **And with GAFCON having already established their own hierarchy it’s not hard to see how a final division would occur with them already having their own communion within the communion.
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Just for historical accuracy, I’ll put a refresher out there that it is because the Episcopal Church acted outside the traditionally varied structure, (common acknowledgement and acceptance rather than unilateral action), that the Communion is in this situation. I know that gets confused in some places, so I thought I’d bring it to light again.

I do agree with you though that ACiC and CoE will continue along the path you mention.
 
ChurchSoldier said:
Just for historical accuracy, I’ll put a refresher out there that it is because the Episcopal Church acted outside the traditionally varied structure, (common acknowledgement and acceptance rather than unilateral action), that the Communion is in this situation. I know that gets confused in some places, so I thought I’d bring it to light again.
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Exactly.

And, I would add, that’s easy to forget when listening to some of the conservative voices.
 
ChurchSoldier said:
Just for historical accuracy, I’ll put a refresher out there that it is because the Episcopal Church acted outside the traditionally varied structure, (common acknowledgement and acceptance rather than unilateral action), that the Communion is in this situation. I know that gets confused in some places, so I thought I’d bring it to light again.
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Thanks for the reminder. A lot of people have strong feelings about certain issues in general, so we tend to shoot from the hip rather than figure out what exactly happened in a given circumstance, and what the historical context of a decision/action is so we can understand the situation, and what it means.

(I’m not saying us conservative Catholics are like that, but those other people out there).
🙂
 
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