On the guilt we shouldn't have. "God Forgets Your Sin," an Article

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The only time that I feel guilty is the time between the committing of the sin and going to confession. But when I’m absolved, I forget that I ever sinned. Why should I remember if God doesn’t? Think about it.
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Well, we are not very lovable, but somehow or other he managed it. He loved us first. The picture of Christ is one of such gentleness. He looks at us, and he loves us so much. He wants to take us and press us to his heart. But we say, “No, no!” We don’t want to hear this stuff. Still he loves us. He continues to love us to the very end.

In 1990 Catherine Doherty was declared Venerable by decree of John Paul II, and she may be canonized. This essay helps show why this is happening.
She had an eventful life and a Dorothy-Day like service to the poor. Finally, living in Canada, she became a founder of lay apostolate communities,
 
If God forgets our confessed sins, what happens at the two Judgements we must undergo?
 
It’s not that so much forgets our sins as we humans forget things. He perfectly forgives us is a way that we do not forgive each other. At the particular and general judgement our sins are shown, not to our disparagement, but to show the glory and mercy of God. (IMHO).
 
An earlier poster asked this good question: if God forgets our confessed sins, what happens at the two Judgements we must undergo?

In fact, Jesus spoke of what happens at the Last Judgment, at least, saying “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will put the sheep at his right hand and the goats at the left. Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world."
(Matthew 25:31-34)
 
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As one who many decades ago spent a long time thinking I was junk and should never have been born and should probably just die ASAP except that it would make my parents sad, I can understand this type of thinking that you are just not worthy or that God being a loving God doesn’t make sense. I also see it all day everyday on this forum. It is a big reason why I think the “Imitation of Christ” by Thomas a Kempis is less than useful today as it seems to reflect this “I am a louse” thinking which I see as an earlier and less developed way of spirituality. It’s also why I took a very long time warming up to the Litany of Humility.

I am just waiting for someone on here to object to this article as being too much fluffy love stuff and not sufficiently dwelling on sin, hell, God’s judgement, and thus encouraging people to sin.
 
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I was told that in a confessional in about 1996. It was the last confession I went to for 18 years. Not because of what the priest said.
 
What a contradictory article, a feel good story about how God doesn’t forget , yet doesn’t mention how through no fault of our own the Church gives us " original sin " after Christ died and resurrected to destroy sin and death, then if that wasn’t good enough, Christ gave us reconciliation and forgiveness of those sins, and then the Church gave us the " scars of sin " and thusly purgatory .

So it should of been titled, God forgives and forgets, but the Church doesn’t.
What is even more punch happy is the rationalization to support a theological / religious edict on how humanity is permanently tainted with sin no matter if one goes to reconciliation or not. An in the same breath denies creating a system of perpetual guilt that then says the only way to be free ( which one can’t because this is a circular movement in the direction it goes once entered ) is by joining the Church and ipsofacto going to reconciliation .

I am not riddled with guilt, more riddled with a nuisance and annoyance of being stuck in a Church that is corrupt and has created more rules that only make one develop scruples if they never had them to begin with and give more psychological problems than it tries solve.

If the Church maintained merely providing the Sacraments and preaching the Gospel, the world would be better off on many levels. But the leaders of the church are extremely slow to change, prevent or correct problems, and so it takes a bit of Gods’ anger to make that change ever so slowly. An at least the church can be thankful that God is in deed slow to anger along with being rich in kindness.
 
Considering Jesus didn’t Die an destroy death and sin, an then Resurrected , and not once mentioned going through a bonus of two more judgments , I suspect it is we are judged flat out and then what ever God decides happens.

Obscure references are just that, obscure references nothing more.
 
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I am not riddled with guilt, more riddled with a nuisance and annoyance of being stuck in a Church that is corrupt and has created more rules that only make one develop scruples if they never had them to begin with and give more psychological problems than it tries solve.
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I find that I’m in a better place because of being Catholic.
I have all sorts of problems and quirks, but they’d be way worse without the Church exerting a dampening effect…
 
Pretty true haha, I write my sins down on my phone so I read them off and don’t second guess in confession. So I was reviewing my sins I had written and added a couple and was also on CAF haha

I guess I use my phone a lot 😛
 
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A little cynical or bitter? Why do you feel like a victim? Christ is our Victim! You seem to be ripping the Church apart from our Lord. They are inseparable.

Do you have a catechism? Yes? Then, please read about original sin. The Church offers the Sacraments, it does not ‘give us’ this or that, like a communicable illness!
 
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I am not riddled with guilt, more riddled with a nuisance and annoyance of being stuck in a Church that is corrupt and has created more rules that only make one develop scruples
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With all due respect, it seems to be a constant theme in your posts that you are “stuck in the Church”. The Church does not have you locked in a dungeon. If you are staying in the Church, you are making a choice to do that. Own it.

This constant complaining from you about how you are somehow “stuck” in this awful (to you) Church, on every other thread whether it fits the topic or not, is getting really old and doesn’t make sense. You would be better off talking to a priest than repeating the same illogical complaint here over and over on multiple threads.

And if you have scruples, it’s a mental disorder/ disease. The Church didn’t make you get it and there are tons of Catholics including myself who never had scruples.
 
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What a contradictory article, a feel good story about how God doesn’t forget , yet doesn’t mention how through no fault of our own the Church gives us " original sin " after Christ died and resurrected to destroy sin and death, then if that wasn’t good enough, Christ gave us reconciliation and forgiveness of those sins, and then the Church gave us the " scars of sin " and thusly purgatory .

So it should of been titled, God forgives and forgets, but the Church doesn’t.
What is even more punch happy is the rationalization to support a theological / religious edict on how humanity is permanently tainted with sin no matter if one goes to reconciliation or not. An in the same breath denies creating a system of perpetual guilt that then says the only way to be free ( which one can’t because this is a circular movement in the direction it goes once entered ) is by joining the Church and ipsofacto going to reconciliation .

I am not riddled with guilt, more riddled with a nuisance and annoyance of being stuck in a Church that is corrupt and has created more rules that only make one develop scruples if they never had them to begin with and give more psychological problems than it tries solve.

If the Church maintained merely providing the Sacraments and preaching the Gospel, the world would be better off on many levels. But the leaders of the church are extremely slow to change, prevent or correct problems, and so it takes a bit of Gods’ anger to make that change ever so slowly. An at least the church can be thankful that God is in deed slow to anger along with being rich in kindness.
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Not really correct theology.

God doesn’t forget in the analogical sense of a person forgetting a memory.
We receive, at baptism, forgiveness of all actual sin and eternal and temporal punishment, and the stain of original sin, however since Adam lost the preternatural gifts for all mankind, we do not have freedom from concupiscence or immortality of body.
Christ died and resurrected to destroy sin and death, Isaiah 25:
7 He will destroy death forever.
The Lord God will wipe away
the tears from all faces;
The reproach of his people he will remove
from the whole earth; for the Lord has spoken.
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Atonement is not enough for all to be saved because each is given free will and must then use it to cooperate with the given grace to have a final state of sanctifying grace at physical death, to remain in eternal spiritual life. The sacrament of penance is for those that have lost the necessary state of grace since baptism.
 
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I found it beneficial to ask for the grace of sincere contrition. Sometimes even though we have confessed the sin we have not experienced the increased love for Christ that results from the grace of sincere contrition. When given the grace of sincere contrition we are able to offer that penance of sincere repulsion for the sin and a sorrow for the offense against God. This grace is the forerunner of others and becomes encapsulated in holy thankgiving for the mercy of God, joy in our reconciliation and increased love for our Savior. If you ask the Lord for the grace of sincere contrition He will without a doubt pour it out upon you.
 
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