Hogwash. … the proper definition would invalidate your cherished belief.
why didnt you post the proper definition?
education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/empiricism
em·pir·i·cism (m-pîr-szm) KEY
The view that experience, especially of the senses, is the only source of knowledge.
it seems to be the dictionary definition. is there another definition that is applicable to my statement? please post it and we can discuss it.
Biblical scholars know and have no problem admitting it that the NT was not written for **at least 40 years **after the events supposedly happened.
ok
Considering that the life expectancy in that era was less than 40 years, your alleged eye-witnesses were all dead.
thats laughable. first, the average life span says nothing about individuals. second, it rises substantially for all eras when you eliminate infant mortality.
And don’t forget that Jesus personally promised that “not all present will be dead before the Kingdom of God will arrive to Earth” - which of course did not happen, but with such a short deadline the believers did not see any reason to record the events -.
i love it when atheists misquote the Bible. i had one of the brights over here last weekend, and he did the same thing talking about Messianic Prophecy. its not just you, but really, double check before you do that.
here is the actual qoute
28 Amen, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."
they saw him later, after the Ressurection.
Sheer nonsense. The Romans were extremely tolerant toward other religions.
false. Christians were persecuted for the next 3 centuries
They did not intend to convert anyone to theirs.
false, they called Christains atheists, and offered them conversion or death.
They even awarded Roman citizenship to the inhabitants of the captured lands. They recorded the histories of all the other captured lands - made no exceptions.
proof?
They recorded the events which really took place in Judea, too.
proof?
Yet, none of these “miraculous” events were ever recorded.
so? ive listed a great number of reasons why such things would have been destroyed if found, and that there is little reason to suspect that they were recorded in the first place as all the scribes belonged to the sanhedrin.
frankly, we keep much better records, but you would have no reason to suspect that the government has soemone following around a successful faith healer around west virgnia, do you? of course not.
There is no independent corroboration for any of the events described in the Bible.
there is, the various books of the Bible. but lets be clear, there is hardly any record of anything at all from those times. this is really just another impossible standard. i dont see why you bother to do that. you, like all of us are obsessed with G-d. it doesnt benefit you to make such statements, first because we know they are impossible standards, but second, because you cant really fid out more about G-d if you just reject everything based on those impossible standards. youre shooting yourself in the foot doing that.
Which only shows **your **double standard, not mine.
how so? i only have the one, but then i dont reject the moonlanding or the Biblical events. my worldview encompasses both of them.
All written by the believers. No skepic made the slightest footnote.
if you had witnessed what they did, you would be a believer too.
Yes, it is a big deal. A subjective selection of bishops.
subjective too who? back then you had to be able to trace your teaching back to an apostle in order to preach, their were a great number of people who all had the same oral history.
Then you know more than the most prominent Biblical scolars do. recorded the events.
i dont kow any who say we dont have a good idea who wrote the various books. the provenance may be questioned, but it isnt blind, and for everyone that says white, i can find one who will say black. dueling scholars dotn mean much to me. im interested only i what the Church has to say on the matter, because they are the only ones authorized by Christ
Except that they had the same viewpoint, and still differ in their descriptions.
ive seen a million witness statements, and 2 people standing side by side will describe the same event in significantly different ways, 10 minutes later, much less a couple of decades. no big deal.
Ah, so now they are scholars, not illiterate people as you said above. You sure change your argument quickly…
i was refering to modern Biblical scholars here. not the scribes of the san hedrin.
Look it up on the web. While you are at it, poke some holes in the historical evidence for the Holocaust. I am sure there will be some very happy “people” who will be delighted with your “research”.
ive already poked holes in it most recently for albert. though its funny that instead of backing up your assertions with the evidence of the moonlanding, you try to intimate that denial of the moonlanding is tantamount to denial of the Holocaust. thats pretty bad form, if you cant win on the merits of your argument, its very uncool to try too win, on the backs of those innocents who lost their lives.
some things are sacrosanct.
