Once in heaven does god gives us total knowledge

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From the Baha’i Writings 🙂

“The mysteries of which man is heedless in this earthly world, those will he
discover in the heavenly world, and there will he be informed of the secret of
truth; how much more will he recognize or discover persons with whom he
hath been associated. Undoubtedly, the holy souls who find a pure eye and
are favored with insight will, in the kingdom of lights, be acquainted with all
mysteries, and will seek the bounty of witnessing the reality of every great
soul. Even they will manifestly behold the Beauty of God in that world. Likewise
will they find all the friends of God, both those of the former and recent
times, present in the heavenly assemblage.”

Hope this helps you my friend 🙂

Kam
 
Fairly certain the guy was asking for the Catholic perspective.
 
We don’t know; the Church has never pronounced on this question.

However, S. Paul does say, “my knowledge is imperfect now; then I shall know as I am known”.

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ForeverRome500 said:
do we become omniscent once we get in heaven
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I doubt we become omniscient. We’ll have the direct knowledge or experience of God-which is the primary goal, the end for which we’re made-but I don’t think that includes all knowledge. Personally I think we could-and will probably desire to -plumb the depths of God’s knowledge for eternity and still remain unfinished in the endeavor.
 
GEddie said:
We don’t know; the Church has never pronounced on this question.

However, S. Paul does say, “my knowledge is imperfect now; then I shall know as I am known”.

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I disagree. We do have the answer to this question in the writings of St Thomas Acquinas:
I answer that, The created intellect, in seeing the divine essence, does not see in it all that God does or can do. For it is manifest that things are seen in God as they are in Him. But all other things are in God as effects are in the power of their cause. Therefore all things are seen in God as an effect is seen in its cause. Now it is clear that the more perfectly a cause is seen, the more of its effects can be seen in it. For whoever has a lofty understanding, as soon as one demonstrative principle is put before him can gather the knowledge of many conclusions; but this is beyond one of a weaker intellect, for he needs things to be explained to him separately. And so an intellect can know all the effects of a cause and the reasons for those effects in the cause itself, if it comprehends the cause wholly. Now no created intellect can comprehend God wholly, as shown above. Therefore no created intellect in seeing God can know all that God does or can do, for this would be to comprehend His power; but of what God does or can do any intellect can know the more, the more perfectly it sees God.
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Summa Theologica, First Part, Question 12, Article 8
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mgoforth said:
If that’s the Catholic perspective, why did you preface it by saying “From the Baha’i writings”?
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Because Baha’u’llah has fulfilled the message of Jesus Christ, and represents His return in the glory of the Father. The answers Catholics seek (all of them) have been revealed in Baha’u’llah’s majestic Revelation

God bless 🙂

Kam
 
Kam_Fanaian said:
Because Baha’u’llah has fulfilled the message of Jesus Christ, and represents His return in the glory of the Father. The answers Catholics seek (all of them) have been revealed in Baha’u’llah’s majestic Revelation

God bless 🙂

Kam
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Baha’i is a false religion.
 
Kam_Fanaian said:
Because Baha’u’llah has fulfilled the message of Jesus Christ, and represents His return in the glory of the Father. The answers Catholics seek (all of them) have been revealed in Baha’u’llah’s majestic Revelation

God bless 🙂

Kam
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Sorry, but no. One very important message of Jesus Christ was that when He returns it will be the end of time here on Earth - the Final Judgment. Last I checked, that hasn’t happened yet…despite anything Baha’u’llah said or did.

"Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come." Matthew 24: 4-6

So why should I believe in Baha’u’llah instead of Haile Selassie I? Both claimed to be Christ…neither one produced the Final Judgment, or met many of the other requirements.

Do you see where I’m going with this? Baha’u’llah claimed he was the fulfillment of Catholic eschatology (along with every other religion to boot…so we can certainly give him credit for thinking big), but he simply didn’t fulfill what our eschatology teaches at all. He died 120 years ago and…the world keeps on spinning around.
 
Hi mgoforth 🙂

The reality is that as prophesied in Luke 21:24-27, Jesus said that He would return when the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Last time I checked, Israel is a Jewish nation.

Would you mind sharing which passage from the Bible you have in mind which describes a literal destruction of the earth?

Hopefully, then we can explore this together 🙂

Kam
 
mgoforth said:
So why should I believe in Baha’u’llah instead of Haile Selassie I? Both claimed to be Christ…neither one produced the Final Judgment, or met many of the other requirements.

Do you see where I’m going with this.
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Yes I see exactly where you are going with this my friend 🙂

This type of argument against Gods revelation manifests all the time. The words you speak are exactly the same as the Pharisees spoke against Jesus.

They did not look with spiritual eyes and neither are you 🙂

Please look at the outcomes of Baha’u’llahs Message and compare it to what Haile Selassie brought to the world. Study their lives. No comparison. Study their teachings and Writings. No comparison. Study the community’s they raised up. No comparison.

In actuality, many independent observers would have no hesitation in calling the Baha’i community the prime, exemplary global community on earth, a shining beacon by which all other communities are, and will continue to learn from.

Look with your heart, and listen with your soul my friend. It is your pathway to salvation 🙂

Kam
 
Kam_Fanaian said:
Hi mgoforth 🙂

The reality is that as prophesied in Luke 21:24-27, Jesus said that He would return when the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Last time I checked, Israel is a Jewish nation.

Would you mind sharing which passage from the Bible you have in mind which describes a literal destruction of the earth?

Hopefully, then we can explore this together 🙂

Kam
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I’d be happy to discuss this further with you, but I think it’s getting a bit off-topic in this thread. Would you like to start a new thread and send me the link to it?
 
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