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That is weird, and it might lend credence to the rumors of navigation systems being successfully targeted by computer hackers.
 
Isn’t this the 3rd naval accident now?
What is happening?

Praying for the souls of the departed and for the missing and the families.
 
Self-driving cars have deadly collisions too, so it could just be autopilot errors. 🤷 A number of people have suggested maritime hacking, and one has to assume the Navy is aggresively investigating this possibility. Who knows how vulnerable navigation systems are to cyber warfare?
 
Exiled_Child said:
Self-driving cars have deadly collisions too, so it could just be autopilot errors. 🤷 A number of people have suggested maritime hacking, and one has to assume the Navy is aggresively investigating this possibility. Who knows how vulnerable navigation systems are to cyber warfare?
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There really isn’t any need to suspect foul play here. Most sailors learn the phrase “If it’s grey, stay away.” It takes on different meanings depending on if you’re a recreational or professional sailor. The Coast Guard uses it to emphasize to pleasure craft that it’s illegal to get too close to navy vessels, while professional mariners use it as shorthand to refer to navy vessels being much less reliable and predictable in how they respond to marine traffic. While in the end the regulations state that both vessels are always at fault in a collision, it’s unsurprising that the majority of the fault in the recent incident was with the USS Fitzgerald and would be unsurprising if the navy ship was at fault here too, no foul play required (unsurprising doesn’t mean the McCain is responsible, it’s way too early to really know anything about this collision).
 
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There really isn’t any need to suspect foul play here. Most sailors learn the phrase “If it’s grey, stay away.” It takes on different meanings depending on if you’re a recreational or professional sailor. The Coast Guard uses it to emphasize to pleasure craft that it’s illegal to get too close to navy vessels, while professional mariners use it as shorthand to refer to navy vessels being much less reliable and predictable in how they respond to marine traffic. While in the end the regulations state that both vessels are always at fault in a collision, it’s unsurprising that the majority of the fault in the recent incident was with the USS Fitzgerald and would be unsurprising if the navy ship was at fault here too, no foul play required (unsurprising doesn’t mean the McCain is responsible, it’s way too early to really know anything about this collision).
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Well, you’re right that it’s always both vessels fault when there’s a collision, that’s just maritime law. And of course your supposed to stay far away from U.S. naval vessels, but that’s really just common sense among non-suicidal people. What’s weird is that this rare event happened twice in just over a month’s time, and I think that’s why there’s been some talk about cyberwarfare. The U.S. Navy’s navigation system uses Cobham antennas, which are vulnerable to hackers. They have public IP addresses, which is idiotic on the face of it, and which means GPS coordinates can be changed remotely by any knowledgable and ill-willed person sitting in front of a computer anywhere in the world. And there’s the Shodan Ship Tracker and other similar sites, which allow you to watch in real-time the exact positions of ships worldwide via satellite twenty four hours a day. So it isn’t necessarily far-fetched to consider the possibility of foul play.
 
I don’t think computer hacking has nothing to do with ship collisions. It is more of bad seamanship. I bet you everything was in working order when this accident happened. Looks like the Navy gonna have a navy-wide navigational training stand down soon. Four incidents in 8 months don’t look too good for the Navy.
 
Praying for the safety & well being of all & their speeding recovery.
 
Exiled_Child said:
That is weird, and it might lend credence to the rumors of navigation systems being successfully targeted by computer hackers.
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Oh, I sincerely hope that is not the case. But they do seem to be one up on us…
 
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