One of the guys from Medjugorje is coming to my town.

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One of the head honchos from Medjugorje is coming to my town in January, and I’m trying to decide if I should go. Frankly, it’s kind of like hearing about a train wreck and wanting to see if it is as bad as you think but hoping that it was actually quite a pleasant ride for those involved.

On the one hand…he’s kind of sketchy.

On the other hand, the event — which will be at the local minor basilica — is supposed to be a fundraiser for another local parish run by the Josephites that has found itself financially strapped and recently had to close most of its school.
 
Agabus said:
One of the head honchos from Medjugorje is coming to my town in January, and I’m trying to decide if I should go. Frankly, it’s kind of like hearing about a train wreck and wanting to see if it is as bad as you think but hoping that it was actually quite a pleasant ride for those involved.

On the one hand…he’s kind of sketchy.

On the other hand, the event — which will be at the local minor basilica — is supposed to be a fundraiser for another local parish run by the Josephites that has found itself financially strapped and recently had to close most of its school.
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That doesn’t give us much information to work with.
Does “one of the head honchos from Medjugorie” mean one of the alleged seers or one of the priests at the centre of supporting and promoting the apparitions as being true? If either of those then personally I would boycott it and encourage others to do the same.
Fundraising should not be done on the back of something false.
 
thistle said:
That doesn’t give us much information to work with.
Does “one of the head honchos from Medjugorie” mean one of the alleged seers or one of the priests at the centre of supporting and promoting the apparitions as being true? If either of those then personally I would boycott it and encourage others to do the same.
Fundraising should not be done on the back of something false.
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These “apparitions” have been going on for over 20 years. What are the fruits? What kind of lives do the seers lead? Have any entered the religious life like Bernadette of Lourdes and Maria Lucia of Fatima?

Why has the one priest been suspended? Did he not father a child?

One must discern these things and not just go along with what we hear. There are people who are looking for miracles and who gloat about these things.

Just remember that we witness the miracle of life every day. If God wants to perform other miracles we must pray about it. We cannot make a “show” of these things. Don’t forget there have been people who have made money out of these things. They prey on the gullibility of people. I think one has to be extremely careful.

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Agabus, if you don’t feel comfortable about going to this event that’s months away, but want to help the Josephites, you can always give them a donation directly, can you not?
 
…seeing that the event will take place at the basilica and at the convention center over two days in January…wondering if Ivan will be allowed to have his “apparition” in the basilica…
 
Here’s the information I have:
Jan/16/2009 - Jan/17/2009
Location: Natchez Convention Center & St. Mary’s Basilica
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Join us for two days of inspiring testimonies, praise and fellowship at the Natchez Convention Center and St. Mary’s Basilica.
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Conference hours are 5:00 to 9:30 p.m. on Friday, January 16, at St. Mary’s Basilica and the Natchez Convention Center and 10:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. on Saturday, January 17, at the Convention Center.
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Make plans now to be inspired by guest speaker and best-selling author, Immaculee Llbagiza, who’ll share her story of survival and hope. Visionary Ivan Dragicevic of Medjugorje will present Our Lady’s messages. Artie Boyle will share his journey of hope and healing. Musical guest include Kitty Cleveland and Kara Klein.
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Part of the reason I am interested is because I’m not fully — or even partially, except for my own reading — initiated into the Catholic faith, and so I have a kind of newcomers interest in bizarre apparitions.

With the ongoings at Medjugore, I know they haven’t been recognized (and many people steer well clear of them, as is my inclination), but I haven’t been able to find anything solid about what has been said about them officially.
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Agabus, if you don’t feel comfortable about going to this event that’s months away, but want to help the Josephites, you can always give them a donation directly, can you not?
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What a simple and obvious solution.😊
 
Agabus said:
Here’s the information I have:

Part of the reason I am interested is because I’m not fully — or even partially, except for my own reading — initiated into the Catholic faith, and so I have a kind of newcomers interest in bizarre apparitions.

With the ongoings at Medjugore, I know they haven’t been recognized (and many people steer well clear of them, as is my inclination), but I haven’t been able to find anything solid about what has been said about them officially.

What a simple and obvious solution.😊
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Let’s talk about Lourdes for a moment.

The apparitions began 150 years ago. In that time only about 66 miracles have been authenticated. The Church is extremely careful in this regard. There is a team of doctors, not all Catholic - they include athiests - who study and verify cases that are reported. There are more healings going on - spiritual healing and even certain physical healings which take place. However, it may take years before a healing is declared authentic.

I think this is the way to be. We must look at the fruits and I, for one, am pleased the Church is so careful.

I would not go to any meeting unless approved by the Church.
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Agabus said:
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Part of the reason I am interested is because I’m not fully — or even partially, except for my own reading — initiated into the Catholic faith, and so I have a kind of newcomers interest in bizarre apparitions. . . .
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When I was directing RCIA I always advised my people to ignore the extras until they were firmly grounded in the basics. The rest may be nice, and helpful to many, but they are not essential.
 
I absolutely wouldn’t go: If I want fiction, I read a good book.
 
Sam_Maloney said:
I absolutely wouldn’t go: If I want fiction, I read a good book.
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I agree. I have learned to be selective. There is no time to waste on inconsequential things.

As I said I saw one of the seers and something didn’t feel quite right and eversince then I lost interest.

I agree - there are so many good books around.

Cheers!🙂
 
Joe_Kelley said:
When I was directing RCIA I always advised my people to ignore the extras until they were firmly grounded in the basics. The rest may be nice, and helpful to many, but they are not essential.
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Joe, you have no idea — or maybe you do — how helpful this statement is for me right now.
 
Joe_Kelley said:
Thanks for the response. Glad I could help.
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Well, I’m the kind of person who likes to get really, really wrapped up in the trappings of outer religion. I’m both trying to get my life re-centered on Christ while at the same time entering into the wide, wide world of Catholicism. On the one hand, the teachings of the Church are very simple, but on the other hand…there are a lot of extras.
 
If you ask about Medjugorje here you will hear from the diehard skeptics who have made their final immovable judgement on Medjugorje. If you read the skeptics and read the credible supporters (they are there) then you will find it not so easy to judge. I have read both and I know I will go with what the Pope says, when he says it (some, it seems are mind-readers and already know what he is going to say). Meanwhile this private revelation has born much good fruit that cannot be denied. Sure there is scandal with some insider but Jesus had scandal with one of His insiders too, and that didn’t make it not true.

Why not fast and pray for wisdom and truth and go with an open mind and make your own judgement on what you see. I don’t mean become a believer or a detractor based on jut this, but just get your own genuine impression. And share it with us here!
 
Eliza10 said:
If you ask about Medjugorje here you will hear from the diehard skeptics who have made their final immovable judgement on Medjugorje. If you read the skeptics and read the credible supporters (they are there) then you will find it not so easy to judge. I have read both and I know I will go with what the Pope says, when he says it (some, it seems are mind-readers and already know what he is going to say). Meanwhile this private revelation has born much good fruit that cannot be denied. Sure there is scandal with some insider but Jesus had scandal with one of His insiders too, and that didn’t make it not true.

Why not fast and pray for wisdom and truth and go with an open mind and make your own judgement on what you see. I don’t mean become a believer or a detractor based on jut this, but just get your own genuine impression. And share it with us here!
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The fruit of Medjugorie is that it has divided the faithful. God does not divide. Satan divides.
 
thistle said:
The fruit of Medjugorie is that it has divided the faithful. God does not divide. Satan divides.
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Thats not the only fruit of Medjugorje. Incidentally, its also the fruit of the gospel. :eek: Division. Brother against brother. etc.

So many of us personally know someone whose lives have been touched and permanently changed in some way by Medjugorje. People whose lives have made a forever change towards faithfulness in daily living. And whether it is a true apparition or not, its important to remember that pilgrims go there seeking the Lord. And Jesus says, “When two or more are gathered in my name, I am there among you.” So we know Our Lord is there, with His faithful.
 
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