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I’ve heard others say that Chapter 13 of Revelations can be interpreted as predicting a New World Order or a One World governing authority.

What do Catholics believe?
 
Thank you for your replies.
My point is not whether or not it will occur soon, but that non Catholics I know believe that Revelation 13:15 - 17 are interpreted to mean that there’ll be a one world government authority implemented.

Is this also a Catholic interpretation?

In Laudato Si, Pope Francis calls for a one world governing authority to enforce international environmental legislation.
 
jpmac88 said:
Thank you for your replies.
My point is not whether or not it will occur soon, but that non Catholics I know believe that Revelation 13:15 - 17 are interpreted to mean that there’ll be a one world government authority implemented.

Is this also a Catholic interpretation?

In Laudato Si, Pope Francis calls for a one world governing authority to enforce international environmental legislation.
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Look at some of the other things the bible says about how society will be in the end times…this is a book written 2000 yrs ago, and yet its pretty accurate at describing how our world would be during this time, I have a feeling it will be right about a one world Govt eventually too.

However, to get to that point, its going to take some major events to happen, to sort of get people thinking a one world Govt would be the best thing.
 
1ke said:
No.

Just “No” eh? Ok, thanks. I’m hoping for some insights on why the Catholic interpretation of Rev 13:15-17 does not predict a One World authority. What can you share?

A). No he doesn’t.

Yes, I contend that he does. He leads up to it beginning in paragraph 173: “Enforceable international agreements are urgently needed” for environmental regulations; and "Global regulatory norms are needed to impose obligations… "

Then he gets a little more clear in para 174 “What is needed, in effect, is an agreement on systems of governance for the whole range of so-called global commons.”

Then in para 175: “[It is essential to devise stronger and more efficiently organized international institutions, with functionaries who are appointed fairly by agreement among national governments and empowered to impose sanctions. As Benedict XVI has affirmed…’ …for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago.’”

Clearly he supports it even though it’s to enforce environmental regulations … initially.

B). If he did, so what?
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So what!? That discussion would require a whole new thread being so political in nature. The purpose of my question was to find out what the Catholic interpretation is of the Bible and alleged references to a One World authority.
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I see I need to be a bit more careful in using the “Quote” function in my posts. That last post of mine got a bit messed up. Hey, it’s my first thread. I’ve used Catholic.com for years as a resource for podcasts and so on and decided to give the forum a chance.
 
mikekle said:
Look at some of the other things the bible says about how society will be in the end times…this is a book written 2000 yrs ago, and yet its pretty accurate at describing how our world would be during this time, I have a feeling it will be right about a one world Govt eventually too.

However, to get to that point, its going to take some major events to happen, to sort of get people thinking a one world Govt would be the best thing.
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Yeah, well that one world government is the scary thing to me.
 
jpmac88 said:
No.

Just “No” eh? Ok, thanks.
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PaulFromIowa already shared the Haydock Bible Commentary. You can also review the NAB notes here.
jpmac88 said:
I’m hoping for some insights on why the Catholic interpretation of Rev 13:15-17 does not predict a One World authority. What can you share?
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What I already shared. The Church has no such teaching. The Church has no teaching or “interpretation” at all. Most of what you have probably absorbed about Revelation is Protestant millennialism and pre-millennialism nonsense. The Church rejects millennialism and pre-millennialism (also called millenarianism). The Church, in essence, is a-millennial.

Despite what people think, there are actually very FEW passages in the bible that the Church has spoken definitively on.
jpmac88 said:
Yes, I contend that he does.
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Then we disagree.
jpmac88 said:
B). If he did, so what?So what!? That discussion would require a whole new thread being so political in nature.
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Yes, SO WHAT?
jpmac88 said:
The purpose of my question was to find out what the Catholic interpretation is of the Bible and alleged references to a One World authority
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It doesn’t have one.

What the Church does teach about the second coming can be found in the Catechism:

vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1V.HTM

vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1W.HTM

vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1X.HTM
 
There’s nothing per se wrong with a “one world government” provided it governed according to truth and justice, and the principle of subsidiarity in order to promote the authentic common good. I believe this was seen in some eras as the ideal (one God and therefore one Pope and one Emperor). Will there be a bad one world government at the end of time? Who knows, but if there is one, it will be bad because it violates the principles above, not because it is an international government.
 
1ke said:
The Pope doesn’t call for a one world government.

But why is that scary to you?
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All Popes concerned with Vatican II and the Norvus Ordo have in effect called for a NWO. Benedict XVI prior to his resignation called for:

“A united humanity will be able to confront the many troubling problems of the present time: from the menace of terrorism to the humiliating poverty in which millions of human beings live, from the proliferation of weapons to the pandemics and the environmental destruction which threatens the future of our planet,”
 
jpmac88 said:
I’ve heard others say that Chapter 13 of Revelations can be interpreted as predicting a New World Order or a One World governing authority.

What do Catholics believe?
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It has nothing to do with any of that.

The primiary problem in the Book of Revelation is emperor worship. Asia minor was the center of pagan emperor worship. Christians who did not participate were ostracized, banned from commerce, persecuted and martyred.

The primary message in the Book of Revelation is that those who endure patiently will be greatly rewarded. That’s the entire theme of the Book of Revelation. That’s what Catholics believe.

It has nothing to do with a new world order.

-Tim-
 
EamonnMichael said:
All Popes concerned with Vatican II and the Norvus Ordo have in effect called for a NWO. Benedict XVI prior to his resignation called for:

“A united humanity will be able to confront the many troubling problems of the present time: from the menace of terrorism to the humiliating poverty in which millions of human beings live, from the proliferation of weapons to the pandemics and the environmental destruction which threatens the future of our planet,”
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Speaking of a “United humanity” has nothing to do with a new world order.

Humanity united to do many things which had nothing to do with one government world. Stopping the Nazi’s, defeating communism, etc.

You are making things up or reading too many websites.
 
TimothyH said:
Speaking of a “United humanity” has nothing to do with a new world order.

Humanity united to do many things which had nothing to do with one government world. Stopping the Nazi’s, defeating communism, etc.

You are making things up or reading too many websites.
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Do you honestly expect the Papacy to come away with the literal terms “New World Order” or profess it’s aims of supporting a one world government and religion?

Open your eyes, and ears. Look and listen to what’s going on.
 
I disagree that the Pope is calling for a one world.government. he is talking about international treaties, International organizations and basically international law. That has nothing to.do with a one world.government.
 
Protestants love to attempt to predict the end times. Many have tried and failed, but the theories keep coming. This is why you see Protestant authors writing about blood moon theories, illuminati, and the new world order. Many Protestants were up in arms when the pope came to the USA.

I think all these attempts to predict the second coming stem from Martin Luther’s “bible interpretation” about it: the prophecy of Daniel indicates the Catholic Church is the devil and the pope is the antichrist. He thought he was in end times and that he was a key player. It appears that Protestants and nondenominationals have been in end times ever since.

So, to clarify, the Catholic Church does not have a doctrine about the new world order. It does not attempt to predict the end times because Jesus said no one would know the time !!!
 
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