Collins Dictionary:As I learnt as christian believer, Lord jesus is the real begotten son of the God.
Can you give me some refrences that prove formal view of Church is actual begotten, not virtual?
Virtual (american) 1. being such practically or in effect, although not in actual fact or name.
Beget: To beget something means to cause it to happen or be created.
1:18 This is how Jesus Christ came to be born… the angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, ‘Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because she has conceived what is in her by the Holy Spirit. 1:21 She will give birth to a son and you must name him Jesus, because he is the one who is to save his people from their sins.’ 1:22 Now all this took place to fulfil the words spoken by the Lord through the prophet: 1:23 ‘The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son and they will call him Emmanuel, a name which means ‘God-is-with-us’… she gave birth to a son; and he named him Jesus. (St. Matthew)
26 And in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God into a city of Galilee, called Nazareth, 27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary. 28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. 29 Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be. 30 And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God. 31 Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever. 33 And of his kingdom there shall be no end. 34 And Mary said to the angel: How shall this be done, because I know not man? 35 And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. (St. Luke)
Maran atha!1:1 In the beginning was the Word: and the Word was with God and the Word was God. 1:2 He was with God in the beginning. 1:3 Through him all things came to be, not one thing had its being but through him. 1:4 All that came to be had life in him and that life was the light of men, 1:5 a light that shines in the dark, a light that darkness could not overpower. 1:6 A man came, sent by God. His name was John. 1:7 He came as a witness, as a witness to speak for the light, so that everyone might believe through him. 1:8 He was not the light, only a witness to speak for the light. 1:9 The Word was the true light that enlightens all men; and he was coming into the world. 1:10 He was in the world that had its being through him, and the world did not know him. 1:11 He came to his own domain and his own people did not accept him. 1:12 But to all who did accept him he gave power to become children of God, to all who believe in the name of him 1:13 who was born not out of human stock or urge of the flesh or will of man but of God himself. 1:14 The Word was made flesh, he lived among us, and we saw his glory, the glory that is his as the only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth. (St. John)
Matthew 11-111
11 Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has risen no one greater than John the Baptist
He wasn’t part of this generation. Our generation. He wasn’t generated by Adam.Matthew 23:35
35 that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of innocent Abel to the blood of Zechari′ah the son of Barachi′ah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. 36 Truly, I say to you, all this will come upon this generation.
Just from reading a smattering of the responses and your reaction to those, I see that there is a disconnect.As I learnt as christian believer, Lord jesus is the real begotten son of the God.
Can you give me some refrences that prove formal view of Church is actual begotten, not virtual?
HiHi!
I think that what you are asking is something akin to how did man think about the atom, something that cannot be seen or felt with the senses, develop theories about it way prior to the invention of the microscope?
It is called Revelation.
What God has Revealed is that Jesus, the Word, when Revealed to the world would be as the Son of God.
This Revelation is made full and plain in the various passages of Scriptures.
Yet, you cannot comprehend any passage of Scripture that demonstrates that because you cannot comprehend how God can be both One and One in three distinct Persons.
That, my friend. is one of the Mysteries of God.
I have offered this before and I offer it to you: consider the Triune God in the composition of water: water in its three states remains H2O–it is interesting that the one element that remains unchanged is water and water is the one element that provides life.
Maran atha!
Angel
Sorry. As you see, my mother language is not English and I have problem to explain!Could you please help me out and explain what it would mean for Jesus to be an “actual” son vs. a “virtual” son? I’m afraid I’m not following the question.