Only few enter Heaven?

[Ron_Conte]

Where did he ever say that a greater/fewer number are saved? He just said that the chance of salvation is offered to all.

I’ll take a quote from a pope and a saint, and doctor of the church.

‘The more the wicked abound, so much the more must we suffer with them in patience; for on the threshing floor few are the grains carried into the barns, but high are the piles of chaff burned with fire.’
Pope St. Gregory the Great, Doctor and Father of the Church

JP2’s words in Redemptoris Missio are a teaching of the Magisterium. He does not say many or few, but his teaching on the universal salvific will of God and the broad availability of salvation does undermine the idea that a literal few (even few Catholics!?!) are saved.

The quote from Pope Gregory is from a sermon, not a magisterial document, and so it represents a theological opinion, not a doctrine. Saint Gregory uses the phrasing “few are the grains”.

Jesus also used the expression “few” when speaking of salvation. However, Jesus did not answer the question, “Lord, are they few who are saved?” Instead, He said: “Strive to enter through the narrow gate. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and not be able.” (Lk 13:23-24). Jesus was not willing to say that only a small percentage are saved. The Magisterium is not willing to say that only a small percentage are saved. And so the expression “few” in Scripture and perhaps also as used by some of the Saints, does not necessarily mean that a small percentage are saved.

When the Saints echo the words of Scripture, the interpretation is still subject to the Magisterium. We cannot assume a literal “few” are saved, when the Magisterium has not taught that interpretation.

 

[theoda]

JP2’s words in Redemptoris Missio are a teaching of the Magisterium. He does not say many or few, but his teaching on the universal salvific will of God and the broad availability of salvation does undermine the idea that a literal few (even few Catholics!?!) are saved.

The quote from Pope Gregory is from a sermon, not a magisterial document, and so it represents a theological opinion, not a doctrine. Saint Gregory uses the phrasing “few are the grains”.

Jesus also used the expression “few” when speaking of salvation. However, Jesus did not answer the question, “Lord, are they few who are saved?” Instead, He said: “Strive to enter through the narrow gate. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and not be able.” (Lk 13:23-24). Jesus was not willing to say that only a small percentage are saved. The Magisterium is not willing to say that only a small percentage are saved. And so the expression “few” in Scripture and perhaps also as used by some of the Saints, does not necessarily mean that a small percentage are saved.

When the Saints echo the words of Scripture, the interpretation is still subject to the Magisterium. We cannot assume a literal “few” are saved, when the Magisterium has not taught that interpretation.

However, the magisterium hasn’t taught anything about the matter yet. All the theologians and the doctors of the church agree that few are saved. These are people who we are sure are saved. It would be smart to agree with what they say.

Plus you can figure out few are saved by reason. Here is part of St Leonard of Port Maurice’s sermon that proves this:

"But why seek out the opinions of the Fathers and theologians, when Holy Scripture settles the question so clearly? Look in to the Old and New Testaments, and you will find a multitude of figures, symbols and words that clearly point out this truth: very few are saved. In the time of Noah, the entire human race was submerged by the Deluge, and only eight people were saved in the Ark. Saint Peter says, “This ark was the figure of the Church,” while Saint Augustine adds, “And these eight people who were saved signify that very few Christians are saved, because there are very few who sincerely renounce the world, and those who renounce it only in words do not belong to the mystery represented by that ark.” The Bible also tells us that only two Hebrews out of two million entered the Promised Land after going out of Egypt, and that only four escaped the fire of Sodom and the other burning cities that perished with it. All of this means that the number of the damned who will be cast into fire like straw is far greater than that of the saved, whom the heavenly Father will one day gather into His barns like precious wheat.

I would not finish if I had to point out all the figures by which Holy Scripture confirms this truth; let us content ourselves with listening to the living oracle of Incarnate Wisdom. What did Our Lord answer the curious man in the Gospel who asked Him, “Lord, is it only a few to be saved?” Did He keep silence? Did He answer haltingly? Did He conceal His thought for fear of frightening the crowd? No. Questioned by only one, He addresses all of those present. He says to them: “You ask Me if there are only few who are saved?” Here is My answer: “Strive to enter by the narrow gate; for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able.” Who is speaking here? It is the Son of God, Eternal Truth, who on another occasion says even more clearly, “Many are called, but few are chosen.” He does not say that all are called and that out of all men, few are chosen, but that many are called; which means, as Saint Gregory explains, that out of all men, many are called to the True Faith, but out of them few are saved. Brothers, these are the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Are they clear? They are true. Tell me now if it is possible for you to have faith in your heart and not tremble."

In the past, humans have chosen to reject God rather than cooperate with him. Since we still have the same nature, most will do the same thing.

 

[Sirach2]

All the theologians and the doctors of the church agree that few are saved. These are people who we are sure are saved. It would be smart to agree with what they say.

There you go again. Did you not read the post that said,
"No pope is bound by any doctor of the church, any saint or any miracle or a private apparition. All revelation comes from Christ. All law comes from Christ and it is written in the heart of the pope."

You persist in putting saints above the Magisterium. Can’t be done! I don’t care what St. Leonard said - he has no Papal Authority to make his opinion override the Church’s teaching. If you persist, my man, you are the one who is resisting the Holy Spirit, and worse yet, scandalizing Christ’s little ones. And we know what Jesus said will happen to them.

 

[Ositokc]

The honest truth: NO ONE KNOWS what happens when you die, NO ONE.

You can have all the faith and belief in the world, but until that moment comes
no one can tell you for sure.

What we can do NOW, right now, is be kind and loving to our neighbor and our enemies.

so be here now. No day but today.

 

[Ron_Conte]

However, the magisterium hasn’t taught anything about the matter yet. All the theologians and the doctors of the church agree that few are saved. These are people who we are sure are saved. It would be smart to agree with what they say.

Can you provide a quote from each and every Doctor of the Church saying that few are saved (in the literal sense)? It is not really true that ALL expressed that opinion.

The claim that “all the theologians” agree is patently false. More than a few theologians (e.g. Fr. Robert Barron, Fr. Hans Urs von Balthasar) think that the vast majority will be saved. And did you mean to suggest that we can be sure that all theologians are saved??!!

Until the Magisterium rules, the faithful are free to hold a range of opinions on the topic, from most go to Hell to most go to Heaven. But I would say that the extreme end of the range of possible opinions is at least theologically untenable, for example, the claim that vast majority of Catholics end up in Hell, or the claim that no human persons at all are sent to Hell.

 

[CRATUS]

Can someone explain this scripture to me:

“Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gare is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few.”

There was another scripture I read that was similar. Does this mean only a few people will enter Heaven?

You can visit a Catholic website or askapriest.org if you want more clarity on the Catholic interpretation of this scripture. I think it means that the easy, convenient lifestyle often leads to death and destruction. The difficult things in life prove to be more fruitful in the end. Most people are not willing to suffer.

 

[theoda]

There you go again. Did you not read the post that said,
"No pope is bound by any doctor of the church, any saint or any miracle or a private apparition. All revelation comes from Christ. All law comes from Christ and it is written in the heart of the pope."

You persist in putting saints above the Magisterium. Can’t be done! I don’t care what St. Leonard said - he has no Papal Authority to make his opinion override the Church’s teaching. If you persist, my man, you are the one who is resisting the Holy Spirit, and worse yet, scandalizing Christ’s little ones. And we know what Jesus said will happen to them.

The magisterium didn’t say that the majority are saved or that few are saved. It didn’t say anything about the matter.

Please show me an infallible teaching that clearly states that there is a majority saved, then I might believe it.

 

[theoda]

Can you provide a quote from each and every Doctor of the Church saying that few are saved (in the literal sense)? It is not really true that ALL expressed that opinion.

The claim that “all the theologians” agree is patently false. More than a few theologians (e.g. Fr. Robert Barron, Fr. Hans Urs von Balthasar) think that the vast majority will be saved. And did you mean to suggest that we can be sure that all theologians are saved??!!

Until the Magisterium rules, the faithful are free to hold a range of opinions on the topic, from most go to Hell to most go to Heaven. But I would say that the extreme end of the range of possible opinions is at least theologically untenable, for example, the claim that vast majority of Catholics end up in Hell, or the claim that no human persons at all are sent to Hell.

Those theologians aren’t saints. I will give you some quotes by many well-respected saints of the church. Almost all, if not all doctors of the church agree that few are saved. If you think one doesnp not, find it, since they’re are so many that think few are saved.

‘**Behold how many there are who are called, and how few who are chosen! And behold, if you have no care for yourself, your perdition is more certain than your amendment, especially since the way that leads to eternal life is so narrow.’ **
St. John of the Cross, Doctor of the Church

**‘The saved are few, but we must live with the few if we would be saved with the few. O God, too few indeed they are: yet amongst those few I wish to be!’ **
St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori, Doctor of the Church

**‘The more the wicked abound, so much the more must we suffer with them in patience; for on the threshing floor few are the grains carried into the barns, but high are the piles of chaff burned with fire.’ **
Pope St. Gregory the Great, Doctor and Father of the Church

**‘Not all, nor even a majority, are saved. . . They are indeed many, if regarded by themselves, but they are few in comparison with the far larger number of those who shall be punished with the devil.’ **
St. Augustine, Doctor and Father of the Church

‘**The number of the elect is so small - so small - that were we to know how small it is, we should faint away with grief. The number of the elect is so small that were God to assemble them together, He would cry to them, as He did of old, by the mouth of His prophet, “Gather yourselves together, one by one” - one from this province, one from that kingdom.’ **
St. Louis de Montfort

‘**We owe God a deep regret of gratitude for the purely gratuitous gift of the true faith with which he has favored us. How many are the infidels, heretics and schismatic who do not enjoy comparable happiness? The earth is full of them and they are all lost!’ **
St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori, Doctor of the Church

‘******I exhort you, therefore, not to faint in your afflictions, but to be revived by God’s love, and to add daily to your zeal, knowing that in you ought to be preserved that remnant of true religion which the Lord will find when He comes on the earth. Even if bishops are driven from their Churches, be not dismayed. If traitors have arisen from among the very clergy themselves, let not this undermine your confidence in God. We are saved not by names, but by mind and purpose, and genuine love toward our Creator. Bethink you how in the attack against our Lord, high priests and scribes and elders devised the plot, and how few of the people were found really receiving the word. Remember that it is not the multitude who are being saved, but the elect of God. Be not then affrighted at the great multitude of the people who are carried hither and thither by winds like the waters of the sea. If but one be saved, like Lot at Sodom, he ought to abide in right judgment, keeping his hope in Christ unshaken, for the Lord will not forsake His holy ones. Salute all the brethren in Christ from me. Pray earnestly for my miserable soul.’ **
St. Basil the Great, Doctor and Father of the Church

‘**Meditate on the horrors of Hell which will last for eternity because of one easily-committed mortal sin. Try hard to be among the few who are chosen. Think of the eternal flames of Hell, and how few there are that are saved.’ **
St. Benedict Joseph Labre

‘**The greater part of men choose to be damned rather than to love Almighty God.’ **
St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori, Doctor of the Church

‘**What do you think? How many of the inhabitants of this city may perhaps be saved? What I am about to tell you is very terrible, yet I will not conceal it from you. Out of this thickly populated city with its thousands of inhabitants not one hundred people will be saved. I even doubt whether there will be as many as that!’ **
St. John Chrysostom, Doctor and Father of the Church

‘**With the exception of those who die in childhood, most men will be damned.’ **
St. Regimius of Rheims

‘**There are many who arrive at the faith, but few that are led into the heavenly kingdom.’ **
Pope St. Gregory the Great, Doctor and Father of the Church

Out of one hundred thousand people whose lives have always been bad, you will find barely one who is worthy of indulgence."-St. Jerome

"Because eternal beatitude surpasses the natural state, especially since it has been deprived of original grace, it is the little number that are saved."- St. Thomas Aquinas

The saints and doctors of the church could not be more clear on the matter!

Who do you think it is right, Fr. Barron or Saint Thomas Aquinas, Saint Gregory the Great, Saint Augustine of Hippo, etc.

 

[ready]

More than a few theologians (e.g. Fr. Robert Barron, Fr. Hans Urs von Balthasar) think that the vast majority will be saved. And did you mean to suggest that we can be sure that all theologians are saved??!!

I’m with the many Church Fathers and Saints who teach that few souls are saved, not with Fr. Robert Barron and Hans Urs von Balthasar who are Moderninsts. I’ll be safe rather than sorry in the end. God bless you.

 

[Ron_Conte]

“Who do you think it is right, Fr. Barron or Saint Thomas Aquinas, Saint Gregory the Great, Saint Augustine of Hippo, etc.”

Pope Saint John Paul II is correct that God wills all persons to be saved, and He makes salvation concretely available to all. That is the teaching of the Magisterium.

It remains an open question as to how many or what percentage are saved. But I find the opinion **untenable **that claims that the vast majority of Catholics are not saved. I believe and hope that the grace and mercy of God will find a way to save most Catholics as well as most non-Catholic Christians, and most non-Christians.

I cited Fr. Barron only to refute your claim that all theologians agree. But my reply to every opinion of those Saints you quote is the same: it is merely their opinion.

 

[ready]

I’m with the many Church Fathers and Saints who teach that few souls are saved, not with Fr. Robert Barron and Hans Urs von Balthasar who are Moderninsts. I’ll be safe rather than sorry in the end. God bless you.

Here are 101 texts given by the Saints (and the Scriptures) about the fewness of the saved:

saintsquotes.net/Selection%20-%20Fewness.html

I am with all the Church Fathers, Doctors of the Church and Saints who teach the fewness of the saved as their loving warning to the faithful. I am warned … I hope you are too. These 101 quotes must be taken seriously. I don’t care if a whole new crop of Modernist theologians teach that most souls get saved–I won’t go against the traditional thinkers like the Saints, Church Fathers, Doctors of the Church. God bless you.

 

[theoda]

“Who do you think it is right, Fr. Barron or Saint Thomas Aquinas, Saint Gregory the Great, Saint Augustine of Hippo, etc.”

Pope Saint John Paul II is correct that God wills all persons to be saved, and He makes salvation concretely available to all. That is the teaching of the Magisterium.

It remains an open question as to how many or what percentage are saved. But I find the opinion **untenable **that claims that the vast majority of Catholics are not saved. I believe and hope that the grace and mercy of God will find a way to save most Catholics as well as most non-Catholic Christians, and most non-Christians.

I cited Fr. Barron only to refute your claim that all theologians agree. But my reply to every opinion of those Saints you quote is the same: it is merely their opinion.

I agree that is an opinion and is not infallibly correct. However, by reason, you can conclude that few are saved.

As to your hope that God will be merciful, here is a paragraph from St. Leonard of Port Maurice’s Sermon,

“O then, remove the blindfold from your eyes that is blinding you with self-love, that is keeping you from believing such an obvious truth by giving you very false ideas concerning the justice of God, “Just Father, the world has not known Thee,” said Our Lord Jesus Christ. He does not say “Almighty Father, most good and merciful Father.” He says “just Father,” so we may understand that out of all the attributes of God, none is less known than His justice, because men refuse to believe what they are afraid to undergo. Therefore, remove the blindfold that is covering your eyes and say tearfully: Alas! The greater number of Catholics, the greater number of those who live here, perhaps even those who are in this assembly, will be damned! What subject could be more deserving of your tears?”

God is also just, and while we must hope for his mercy, we also must also recognize God’s Justice.

 

[theoda]

“Who do you think it is right, Fr. Barron or Saint Thomas Aquinas, Saint Gregory the Great, Saint Augustine of Hippo, etc.”

Pope Saint John Paul II is correct that God wills all persons to be saved, and He makes salvation concretely available to all. That is the teaching of the Magisterium.

It remains an open question as to how many or what percentage are saved. But I find the opinion **untenable **that claims that the vast majority of Catholics are not saved. I believe and hope that the grace and mercy of God will find a way to save most Catholics as well as most non-Catholic Christians, and most non-Christians.

I cited Fr. Barron only to refute your claim that all theologians agree. But my reply to every opinion of those Saints you quote is the same: it is merely their opinion.

If you find the claim that few are saved is untenable, then will will attempt to prove it with reason by using St. Leonard of Port Maurice’s Sermon:

"But why seek out the opinions of the Fathers and theologians, when Holy Scripture settles the question so clearly? Look in to the Old and New Testaments, and you will find a multitude of figures, symbols and words that clearly point out this truth: very few are saved. In the time of Noah, the entire human race was submerged by the Deluge, and only eight people were saved in the Ark. Saint Peter says, “This ark was the figure of the Church,” while Saint Augustine adds, “And these eight people who were saved signify that very few Christians are saved, because there are very few who sincerely renounce the world, and those who renounce it only in words do not belong to the mystery represented by that ark.” The Bible also tells us that only two Hebrews out of two million entered the Promised Land after going out of Egypt, and that only four escaped the fire of Sodom and the other burning cities that perished with it. All of this means that the number of the damned who will be cast into fire like straw is far greater than that of the saved, whom the heavenly Father will one day gather into His barns like precious wheat.

I would not finish if I had to point out all the figures by which Holy Scripture confirms this truth; let us content ourselves with listening to the living oracle of Incarnate Wisdom. What did Our Lord answer the curious man in the Gospel who asked Him, “Lord, is it only a few to be saved?” Did He keep silence? Did He answer haltingly? Did He conceal His thought for fear of frightening the crowd? No. Questioned by only one, He addresses all of those present. He says to them: “You ask Me if there are only few who are saved?” Here is My answer: “Strive to enter by the narrow gate; for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able.” Who is speaking here? It is the Son of God, Eternal Truth, who on another occasion says even more clearly, “Many are called, but few are chosen.” He does not say that all are called and that out of all men, few are chosen, but that many are called; which means, as Saint Gregory explains, that out of all men, many are called to the True Faith, but out of them few are saved. Brothers, these are the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Are they clear? They are true. Tell me now if it is possible for you to have faith in your heart and not tremble."

And this paragraph:

"I see almost all of you lowering your heads, filled with astonishment and horror. But let us lay our stupor aside, and instead of flattering ourselves, let us try to draw some profit from our fear. Is it not true that there are two roads which lead to heaven: innocence and repentance? Now, if I show you that very few take either one of these two roads, as rational people you will conclude that very few are saved. And to mention proofs: in what age, employment or condition will you find that the number of the wicked is not a hundred times greater than that of the good, and about which one might say, “The good are so rare and the wicked are so great in number”? We could say of our times what Salvianus said of his: it is easier to find a countless multitude of sinners immersed in all sorts of iniquities than a few innocent men. How many servants are totally honest and faithful in their duties? How many merchants are fair and equitable in their commerce; how many craftsmen exact and truthful; how many salesmen disinterested and sincere? How many men of law do not forsake equity? How many soldiers do not tread upon innocence; how many masters do not unjustly withhold the salary of those who serve them, or do not seek to dominate their inferiors? Everywhere, the good are rare and the wicked great in number. Who does not know that today there is so much libertinage among mature men, liberty among young girls, vanity among women, licentiousness in the nobility, corruption in the middle class, dissolution in the people, impudence among the poor, that one could say what David said of his times: “All alike have gone astray… there is not even one who does good, not even one.”

In the past, few were saved(Noah’s ark, Promised Land, City of Sodom,etc… Since we still have the same fallen nature, we will most likely repeat the pattern especially since eternal beatitude surpasses the natural state.

 

[Sirach2]

Here are 101 texts given by the Saints (and the Scriptures) about the fewness of the saved:

saintsquotes.net/Selection%20-%20Fewness.html

Originally Posted by Sirach2 http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_khaki/viewpost.gif
Ah yes, Shin’s famous saints’ page. I’ve seen it, and lamented the harm it does to all who read it as truth. As I have responded to this before, these comments from saints are not linked with a source. I have found some of them to be false or taken out of context. Nor did the Church substantiate these saints’ views, since their words were spoken while they were alive. After canonization, people tend to take every word they said as infallible truth, but that is a serious failing.

Originally Posted by Dolezal
I had checked a few quotes before linking it here,** but I see now that there are several more that I can’t source. My mistake for assuming that a Catholic website would not fabricate quotes.**

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=10168496&postcount=9

 

[Sirach2]

If you find the claim that few are saved is untenable, then will will attempt to prove it with reason by using St. Leonard of Port Maurice’s Sermon:
.

There is nothing to prove, and this is not, repeat NOT Church teaching. I seriously doubt that anyone is buying your rhetoric, so I am finished trying to …

 

[theoda]

Originally Posted by Sirach2 http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_khaki/viewpost.gif
Ah yes, Shin’s famous saints’ page. I’ve seen it, and lamented the harm it does to all who read it as truth. As I have responded to this before, these comments from saints are not linked with a source. I have found some of them to be false or taken out of context. Nor did the Church substantiate these saints’ views, since their words were spoken while they were alive. After canonization, people tend to take every word they said as infallible truth, but that is a serious failing.

Originally Posted by Dolezal
I had checked a few quotes before linking it here,** but I see now that there are several more that I can’t source. My mistake for assuming that a Catholic website would not fabricate quotes.**

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=10168496&postcount=9

Even if some are false, many are true and very clear. The Church didn’t say that they were false either. And I don’t think anyone holds it as infallible truth, but as a very likely opinion held by the Church’s most well-respected theologians.

 

[theoda]

There is nothing to prove, and this is not, repeat NOT Church teaching. I seriously doubt that anyone is buying your rhetoric, so I am finished trying to …

I repeat, there is no Church teaching on the matter! I know it is not the infallible church teaching. The Church doesn’t hold an official position on the matter.

It is a opinion backed by all the doctors and respected theologians of the Church.

It’s sorta like the Limbo of the Infants. There is no Church teaching on the matter but a lot if theologians agree there is a Limbo of the Infants

 

[ready]

Even if some are false, many are true and very clear. The Church didn’t say that they were false either. And I don’t think anyone holds it as infallible truth, but as a very likely opinion held by the Church’s most well-respected theologians.

I don’t think that any of them are false, and yes, they are held by the Church’s most well-respected theologians and the Church has not declared any of them to be false. I won’t bother with any of the posters on this thread who refuse to listen to them … these posters who refuse to listen really are just hurting themselves, and in the end they will learn the truth. They will have no influence over me whatsoever; only the Saints, the Church Fathers, and the Doctors of the Church will influence me. God bless you.

 

[coco2]

Yes, very few are saved. I suggest reading this sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice:olrl.org/snt_docs/fewness.shtml

And I will back up my statement with numerous quotes of saints confirming this idea:

‘**Behold how many there are who are called, and how few who are chosen! And behold, if you have no care for yourself, your perdition is more certain than your amendment, especially since the way that leads to eternal life is so narrow.’ **
St. John of the Cross, Doctor of the Church

‘**The number of the elect is so small - so small - that were we to know how small it is, we should faint away with grief. The number of the elect is so small that were God to assemble them together, He would cry to them, as He did of old, by the mouth of His prophet, “Gather yourselves together, one by one” - one from this province, one from that kingdom.’ **

‘Our chronicles relate an even more dreadful happening. One of our brothers, well-known for his doctrine and holiness, was preaching in Germany. He represented the ugliness of the sin of impurity so forceful that a woman fell dead of sorrow in front of everyone. Then, coming back to life, she said, "When I was presented before the Tribunal of God, sixty thousand people arrived at the same time from all parts of the world; out of that number, three were saved by going to Purgatory, and all the rest were damned.’
-St. Leonard of Port Maurice

‘**We owe God a deep regret of gratitude for the purely gratuitous gift of the true faith with which he has favored us. How many are the infidels, heretics and schismatic who do not enjoy comparable happiness? The earth is full of them and they are all lost!’ **
St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori, Doctor of the Church

**‘The greater part of men choose to be damned rather than to love Almighty God.’

‘I was watching souls going down into the abyss as thick and fast as snowflakes falling in the winter mist.’ **
St. Benedict Joseph Labre

‘**What do you think? How many of the inhabitants of this city may perhaps be saved? What I am about to tell you is very terrible, yet I will not conceal it from you. Out of this thickly populated city with its thousands of inhabitants not one hundred people will be saved. I even doubt whether there will be as many as that!’ **
St. John Chrysostom, Doctor and Father of the Church

Nothing afflicts the heart of Jesus so much as to see all His sufferings of no avail to so many
St. Jean Marie Baptiste Vianney, the Cure of Ars, Patron Saint of Parish Priests

‘**There are many who arrive at the faith, but few that are led into the heavenly kingdom.’ **
Pope St. Gregory the Great, Doctor and Father of the Church

‘**Beyond a doubt the elect are few.’ **
St. Augustine, Doctor and Father of the Church

Convinced, now? Not only are the saints saying that the greater number of people are damned, the saints also say that the greater number of those in the True Church are damned.

Also, I some of the quotes I accidentally didn’t post who said them. All the quotes are found here:saintsquotes.net/Selection%20-%20Fewness.html

Why would Christ come to Earth and die on the cross to only save a few? I could never understand this.

 

[cena]

Why would Christ come to Earth and die on the cross to only save a few? I could never understand this.

Then no one would go to heaven. He wanted to give us a chance