Only few enter Heaven?

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Can someone explain this scripture to me:

“Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gare is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few.”

There was another scripture I read that was similar. Does this mean only a few people will enter Heaven?
:o YES!

Consider for a moment all the people you know. Put a number to that figure then ask yourself how many of them SEEM [we can’t know for sure], seem to be heading in the direction of heaven.🤷

WHY:

Because getting to heaven takes humility, takes sacrifices, and great discipline and effort… Going to hell only requires great pride.

God Bless you,

Patrick
 
Here’s my thoughts:

I don’t believe we can ever know the number that will enter Heaven, nor can we ever know the number that will be damned to Hell.

As any earthly mortal father does, he has a plan, often times for which the child (or children) cannot see in its entirety. Therefore, a father can often provide stern warnings to provide a reason for his children to not go astray of his teachings, even though his warnings are simply that, warnings. “Don’t go into the street or you will be hit by a car.” Do we get hit by a car each time we go into the street? Of course not, but heed the warning, it is possible to be hit by a car. The same goes for the scripture. Heed my warning, if you do not follow the narrow path, you not find eternal salvation.

This is scripture, so we should take it as the infallible Word of God. How it is to interpreted is muddled by our mere mortal reasoning. It does say few will enter Heaven and many will be damned. Does this mean only 0.00001% are saved? We can never know. Does this mean only 49.99999% are saved? We can never know. A “few” by definition means “not many, but more than one”. So anything less than “many”. And I will take it as that, few will enter, many will be damned.

Do I see most people on the path to damnation by their actions? Yes. While I cannot judge their hearts, or know their ultimate fate, what I see outwardly now through their deeds and hear of their words, indicates that this scripture if very true. When you begin to add up the numbers of those who murder, rape, steal, lie, cheat; when you add in those who fight wars in the name of Allah; when in you add in many false religions; when you add in the numbers who support abortion, gay rights, general relativism, take God’s name in vain, don’t attend church, covet their neighbor, etc.; when you add in the numbers of those who call themselves Christians, but act like pagans; when you add in the numbers of atheists, you start to see a larger picture. — Now, can I know if those who live a life of rejection of God do not repent on their deathbed… of course not. If I were to take a specific sampling at work from what I know of others, I would say yes, many will be damned.

I for many years called myself a Christian, and finally, with the help of the Holy Spirit, I began to understand that in order to truly follow Christ, I had to not only call myself a Christian, but live like one too. With daily prayer, fear of God, love for Jesus, repentance and an inwardly conversion to Christ, I have transformed, and continue to transform, and seek forgiveness of the many many sins I have committed. Christ is the ONLY way.
 
This has always put a scare into me. It either means we have to be “perfect”, or it’s more so meaning that the way we have to be is very difficult. I’m hoping it means the latter.
I’ll also offer this to my other comments. Of course it doesn’t mean we have to be perfect. Only Jesus Christ could ever attain perfection. We should however, strive for perfection.

What I think the part about it being difficult means is that the world will always be against us. This is because sin is part of our world. Many were against Jesus. And to follow Him means that often times you will be ridiculed because of your beliefs, your faith. You may not be liked. Doing the right thing is not always easy, especially in a world where greed, corruption, pride, lust and other deadly sins tempt us at every corner.

It means that Jesus died for our sins and that if we believe He died for our sins, and we commit to Him, we can be saved, even though we are ultimately not worthy for Him to enter under our roof.
 
More thoughts as I read through all of the posts.

I’ve seen posts that discuss how certain events throughout history have shown that only a few are saved. For example, only a very small number (8) of people were saved by the Ark during the great flood. And I may be showing my lack of biblical knowledge (of which I am seeking greater understanding), but what this means or could show is that 8 were saved from the flood. Do we know that every person who perished in the flood was damned? No, unless there is scripture to say so. I take these events to mean that many were not saved from mortal death on earth, but could have been saved. Noah was truly Godly man and deserved to be saved from the horrible death of the great flood, but did that mean every man, woman and child at that time on earth was not a God-fearing man, worthy of at least Purgatory?

Ultimately, I suppose that we should not concern ourselves so much with the numbers, but more so with our own salvation and in turn do what Christ has commanded us to do, to be disciples of Him and spread the Good News to all others.
 
I’m not sure why this theological debate is continuing. Regardless of how many are saved we should be trying to live our lives in the best way we can. The church has told us that you cannot be saved if you die in mortal sin. I am still trying to understand the concept of mortal sin as due to scropolosity I have a distorted view of sin and I am have been getting advice from priests. I have been told that it is possible to stay completely out of mortal sin. If this is the case and I know of many committed Christians who are not in mortal sin and living good lives this seems to contradict the fact that virtually nobody is saved.
We all commit venial sins every day but the catholic church teaches us that while we should strive to be free of venial sin we will still be saved. I know that only God knows the state of our souls.

I think the issues we should be concerned about (and I have a lot of improvements to make in this area) are love if God, love of neighbour, prayer, evangelization etc but with few exceptions I see very little mention of these issues on this forum. Surely this is what our faith is about?
AMEN.
 
I have to say the back and forth in this thread has been fascinating.

I have come to view some things in a different manner too. Before this thread I automatically gave the Saints more credence than the Pope(s), but now I’m not so sure, since the Pope(s) are the ones that declare who is and who isn’t a Saint. Of course, I recognize that that is not arbitrary on their part. Still, “upon this rock I will build my church” and all that.

Also, thanks to those who suggested praying the Chaplet of Divine Mercy. I knew before this that it was reputed to promise God’s mercy and lots of it, but I needed the reminder.

I have to say the various posters swayed me first one way and then the other.

I hope there will be more commentary, although exactly what hasn’t been covered I cannot say. Nothing in particular comes to mind.

I felt like I learned a lot. I hope other readers feel the same way. 🙂
 
More thoughts as I read through all of the posts.

I’ve seen posts that discuss how certain events throughout history have shown that only a few are saved. For example, only a very small number (8) of people were saved by the Ark during the great flood. And I may be showing my lack of biblical knowledge (of which I am seeking greater understanding), but what this means or could show is that 8 were saved from the flood. Do we know that every person who perished in the flood was damned? No, unless there is scripture to say so. I take these events to mean that many were not saved from mortal death on earth, but could have been saved. Noah was truly Godly man and deserved to be saved from the horrible death of the great flood, but did that mean every man, woman and child at that time on earth was not a God-fearing man, worthy of at least Purgatory?

Ultimately, I suppose that we should not concern ourselves so much with the numbers, but more so with our own salvation and in turn do what Christ has commanded us to do, to be disciples of Him and spread the Good News to all others.
Yes, when God chastises the whole world, the righteous may also have a share in the suffering along with the unrighteous.

PAX
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Can someone explain this scripture to me:

“Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gare is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few.”

There was another scripture I read that was similar. Does this mean only a few people will enter Heaven?
Yes.
 
By this reasoning the fact that only two people out of over 600,000 entered the Promised Land would be considered a “complete victory for Satan.” The fact that only eight were saved out of a global flood would be considered a “complete victory for Satan.” Scripture clearly indicates to us that few are saved. It has nothing to do with any sort of “victory” for Satan and everything to do with man’s choice to rebel against God.
Yes. If they perished and went to hell because of their sins, then each one is a victory for Satan.

(Okay, I’ll concede that “complete victory” is the wrong choice of words. Perhaps “hugely substantial achievement” might be more moderate.)

Satan’s only goal has been to thwart God’s plan. He probably knows his time is limited. Even one lost soul is good for him. Many billions (as strongly suggested in this thread) would be quite in keeping with his goal.

But the postmodern, touchy-feely Church doesn’t even talk about Satan anymore. I work in a Catholic high school and the Devil is never mentioned. Ever.

No, the teachings from the pulpit are all about “choices”, “finding your way”, “seeking the right path” and other glib platitudes. I can’t actually argue with any of that, but the rigour, the obligation and the consequences have vanished from the discussion. The clergy are too afraid of upsetting the remaining 15% who attend Church regularly. Heaven forbid they should upset teenagers!

Satan is real. Here and now. His greatest trick was to make people believe he didn’t exist.
 
… There is history. Only 8 people out of he entire human race in Noah’s time were saved.
The story of Noah is probably an allegory, just a tale that is intended to use fictional characters and events to convey a spiritual message expressed in figurative terms. Noah may have had only seven family members with him, but this number is to be taken only figuratively. Noah is a type of new Adam who prefigures Christ. His family represents the righteous remnant who are judged not to be of this world. And the number of this remnant is indefinite.

Again, if Paul believed that only a few or a tiny number of human beings shall be saved, and this were true, he wouldn’t have written: ’ For it was fitting that he, for whom and through whom all things exist, in bringing many children to glory, should make the leader to their salvation perfect through suffering.’ (Heb. 2:10). The Greek word for many is *pollon *which can mean either practically everyone or a large number of people amounting to a great multitude. And the apostle is speaking of those who are not merely predestined to grace, but also to glory.
Only 2 Hebrews out of 2 million made it to the Promised Land,
Apparently Joshua and Caleb were the only two men over the age of 20 who entered the promised land. With the number of young women and children who accompanied the rest, the total number of Israelites would have approached two 2 million, which is about the same number of Jews who left Egypt with Moses 40 years earlier. The two generations of Israelites, taken figuratively as the faithful as opposed to the unfaithful, were relatively of equal number (cf. Num. 26:51; 32:11-12).
and only 4 were saved out of the entire city of Sodom.
We mustn’t ignore the esoteric nature of the Bible. And so let’s not assume that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is to be taken literally because it is presented in a historical way.This narrative as well serves to convey an important spiritual message as anagogical tales are intended. This account is not actually about God’s destruction of two cities, but rather God’s saving intervention. Sodom and Gomorrah represent the dark passions and desires of the human soul and our selfish ego respectively. Metaphorically the reason for their complete destruction is that they are both situated in a valley, which in Scripture may stand for complete darkness and separation from God. If there had been at least ten righteous people in these cities or, in other words, a trace of light, they would not have been utterly destroyed. A soul that is found to be completely dark, deprived of sanctifying grace, has no eternal life within it and is doomed to perish in the flames of spiritual death and destruction.

The inhabitants of the cities represent people who obstinately refuse to crucify the flesh and die to self by shunning the light of Christ which should penetrate and illuminate their minds and hearts by the grace of God. In order to avoid the destruction of their souls, their thoughts, feelings, and deeds must conform to the image of Christ in his humanity. St. Paul wrote that if we have died with Christ, we shall also live with him (cf. Rom. 6:8). The total number of the inhabitants of these cities alludes to the whole world in general, whose pattern we are not to conform ourselves to through the transformation of our minds (cf. Rom. 12:2). Lot and his family, for instance, represent ‘the children of light and children of the day’ who ‘do not belong to the night or to darkness’ (cf. 1 Thess. 5:5). The size of their number simply signifies a singular break from the general pattern of human behaviour and the soul’s liberation from the pervading darkness that looms over our human nature with its sinful inclinations, a nature we all possess and which could lead us all to spiritual destruction and the second death if it were not for the intervention of divine grace. Lot and his family mark a radical break from the wisdom of the world. They are a type of God’s family, uniquely distinguished from all the children of this world in general. As members of this family they have received the spirit of God as opposed to the spirit of the entire world in the natural order of human existence (cf. 1 Cor. 2:12).

In his letter to the Colossians (3:1-5), the apostle writes: ‘If you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth, for you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is your life is revealed, then you also will be revealed with him in glory. Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature.’ We read in the Gospel that Jesus was crucified at Golgotha, which means ‘the place of the skull’. Esoterically we may conclude that in order for our Lord to be resurrected in us, in our thoughts and feelings, we must with the help of God’s grace first crucify the flesh and put to death whatever darkness has hold of our souls and rules in our nature. It was by his obedience to the will of God that Jesus was made perfect through suffering and sacrificing himself on the cross (cf. Heb. 2:10), which we are expected to take up and carry ourselves if we hope to be saved.

Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city–which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt–where also their Lord was crucified.
Revelation 11, 8


PAX

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There are very few who sincerely renounce the world. Therefore, few are saved. This, according to St. Thomas Aquinas, is because eternal beatitude surpasses the natural state. Basically, we have a fallen nature, and since our nature hasn’t changed, we will repeat the same pattern that few are saved.
Concupiscence isn’t a sin. Nor shall we be judged by how faulty and weak we are, but rather by our deeds. Those who aren’t saved are impenitent people who die in the state of mortal sin. What you propose presupposes that most people die in the state of mortal sin, which I find hard to believe seeing that Christ died and rose from the dead to merit divine grace for us that ‘many’ might be saved.
I am saying that we are sure these people are in heaven, and these people believed few were saved. Perhaps we should follow their example and believe the same thing they did.
We should follow the examples of the saints in how holy they lived and ended their lives. Being holy does not make a person infallible in their judgments.
Again, it isn’t infallibly proclaimed, but every theologian and doctor and saint of the church who have spoken about the matter have said that few were saved. Why would we disagree with the most well-respected theologians of the church,and trust our own personal opinion.
Every single one? Are you sure? I just as much disagree with the mediaeval doctors and theologians who argued against the Immaculate Conception. 😉

PAX
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Originally Posted by Sirach2 http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_khaki/viewpost.gif
Ah yes, Shin’s famous saints’ page. I’ve seen it, and lamented the harm it does to all who read it as truth. As I have responded to this before, these comments from saints are not linked with a source. I have found some of them to be false or taken out of context. Nor did the Church substantiate these saints’ views, since their words were spoken while they were alive. After canonization, people tend to take every word they said as infallible truth, but that is a serious failing.

Originally Posted by Dolezal
I had checked a few quotes before linking it here,** but I see now that there are several more that I can’t source. My mistake for assuming that a Catholic website would not fabricate quotes.**

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=10168496&postcount=9
The quotes are neither fabricated or false, and any claims to that are untrue and calumnious… It is not proper Christian behavior. 😦

Especially of a place so full of devout material and good folks dedicated to providing such priceless material.

The quotes are easily found to be substantiated by anyone with basic skills of using a search engine, or familiarity with reading the many popular books these saints writings are in which are not all entirely on the Internet. For those who do not have this ability – 🙂

As has been said before also, anyone can email the website who wishes to inquire about the source of any particular quote. The websites are the work of more than one devout helper. As it is a devotional website it is not dedicated to citing the source of every quote on the pages themselves, but great care is taken to see that every quote is reliable and in context.

Anyone can rest assured the quotes are good and feel confident of the material provided.

Regarding the subject matter the fewness of the saved can be painful but this is no reason to resort to nasty attacks.
 
The quotes are neither fabricated or false, and any claims to that are untrue and calumnious… It is not proper Christian behavior. 😦

Especially of a place so full of devout material and good folks dedicated to providing such priceless material.

The quotes are easily found to be substantiated by anyone with basic skills of using a search engine, or familiarity with reading the many popular books these saints writings are in which are not all entirely on the Internet. For those who do not have this ability – 🙂
I don’t understand why you don’t give the sources yourself on the website. It only takes adding one line to reference the book or sermon or whatever. That would be providing a service to the faithful.
 
God has raised up St. Therese not only to teach us her little way, but also to help us know more fully God’s infinite love and mercy. In proclaiming her Doctor of the Church, the Church validates her beautiful teachings and gives us light and assurance that when we follow them, we are not in error. I share this excerpt from her teaching on Purgatory, but the entire article is very inspirational, without the need to read her entire book.

God is Father rather than Judge

Once St. Therese had a confrontation regarding this topic with Sr. Marie Febronia, who not only was sixty-seven years old but also was sub-prioress. She had heard that St. Therese encouraged the novices to believe that they could go straight to heaven. She did not like this as she considered this kind of confidence presumptuous, and thus she reproached St Therese. St Therese tried lovingly and calmly to explain to Sr. Febronia her point of view but with no success as Sr. Febronia clung to belief. For St. Therese God was more Father than Judge, and she took the liberty of finally responding, “My sister, if you look for the justice of God you will get it. The soul will receive from God exactly what she desires.”

The year had not passed when, in January 1892, Sr. M. Febronia together with other sisters fell prey to the flu and died. Three months later Sr. Therese had a dream which she related to her Mother Prioress and which was then documented: "O my Mother, my Sr. M Febronia came to me last night and asked that we should pray for her. She is in Purgatory, ***surely ***because she had trusted too little in the mercy of the good Lord. Through her imploring behavior and her profound looks, it seemed she wanted to say, You were right. I am now delivered up to the full justice of God but it is my fault. If I had listened to you I would not be here now.
 
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