Only few people will be saved?

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There is a claim of near consensus among saints, Church Fathers, and Doctors of the Church that most people will be damned. A sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice seems to point in this direction. This is not to mention the revelations given by Our Lady at Fatima. Our Lord Himself made clear in Luke 13:24: “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.”

Now I’m a bit scrupulous, so how do I live a normal faithful life without the anxiety and constant fear of hell for me and my loved ones? The sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice got me particularly triggered. Now when I look at a person, almost every person in fact, I get compulsive thoughts that “this person will most likely go to Hell.” And it bothers me a lot. Help?
 
A faithful life is far from normal. I think that is one thing you have to keep in mind. What I mean by that is most people seem to spend their lives chasing their senses looking for security and pleasure.

According to the Saints, one of the main reasons why we are here on Earth is to secure our place in eternity, not simply to have a “high ole time!” You do this one step at a time, as you are doing. It starts with that one question you have asked.

-Read and learn spiritual works.
-Amend your life. [go to confession, strive not to sin]
-Have a rich prayer life.
 
In our secular and sinful society, most people knowingly and willingly reject and deny Jesus Christ.

To be a follower of Jesus Christ is not easy. To live according to God’s will and be a faithful Christian is not easy. Temptation abounds. The devil is in our ear constantly. Faithful Christians who TRULY seek God through Christ are few enough in number.

Jesus said; “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." ~ John 14:6

The vast majority of the world rejects and denies Christ. I can see how anyone might think that only a few will be saved.

That’s just MY take on it…
 
There is a claim of near consensus among saints, Church Fathers, and Doctors of the Church that most people will be damned. A sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice seems to point in this direction. This is not to mention the revelations given by Our Lady at Fatima. Our Lord Himself made clear in Luke 13:24: “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.”

Now I’m a bit scrupulous, so how do I live a normal faithful life without the anxiety and constant fear of hell for me and my loved ones? The sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice got me particularly triggered. Now when I look at a person, almost every person in fact, I get compulsive thoughts that “this person will most likely go to Hell.” And it bothers me a lot. Help?
For your own assurance, you strive to live every day in the Love of the Lord. You follow His laws, and try to grow in your love for Him.

As for those around you, you pray for them, you guide them when you can, and you always remember that those in Hell are there by their own choice. It is not your job to ensure the salvation of everyone, your job is to focus on your own salvation and the salvation of your family. Pray for everyone else, and hope in God’s mercy.

I believe it was St. Faustina who said that more people go to Hell for sins of the flesh than any other reason. Given the massive explosion of sexual immorality in the modern era, combined with this warning, it is sad, though not unreasonable, to think that many people go to Hell for their abuse of human sexuality.

However, as I said above, we can always hope in God’s mercy that people repent and turn to Him, even if that repentance is with their dying breath.
 
There is a claim of near consensus among saints, Church Fathers, and Doctors of the Church that most people will be damned. A sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice seems to point in this direction. This is not to mention the revelations given by Our Lady at Fatima. Our Lord Himself made clear in Luke 13:24: “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.”

Now I’m a bit scrupulous, so how do I live a normal faithful life without the anxiety and constant fear of hell for me and my loved ones? The sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice got me particularly triggered. Now when I look at a person, almost every person in fact, I get compulsive thoughts that “this person will most likely go to Hell.” And it bothers me a lot. Help?
This contradicts Church teaching about not judging the final place of anyone’s soul.
 
This contradicts Church teaching about not judging the final place of anyone’s soul.
Actually, it doesn’t, because we not making any sort of declaration as to who is in Hell and who isn’t.

I’m not sure if the general consensus is “most,” or “many.” The distinction is important. ‘Most’ is quantitative indicator meaning greater than 50%. ‘Many’ is subjective, not indicating any sort of percentage or other quantity. Many could mean anything from one or two percent, to ninety-nine percent.
 
There is a claim of near consensus among saints, Church Fathers, and Doctors of the Church that most people will be damned. A sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice seems to point in this direction. This is not to mention the revelations given by Our Lady at Fatima. Our Lord Himself made clear in Luke 13:24: “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.”

Now I’m a bit scrupulous, so how do I live a normal faithful life without the anxiety and constant fear of hell for me and my loved ones? The sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice got me particularly triggered. Now when I look at a person, almost every person in fact, I get compulsive thoughts that “this person will most likely go to Hell.” And it bothers me a lot. Help?
St. Faustina had also one daily prayer that she never missed which was, “O Jesus inspire people to pray for the dying”. St. Faustina said that by prayer, “God’s mercy can touch the sinner even at the last moment, in a wondrous and mysterious way. Outwardly,** it seems as if everything is lost**, but it is not so. The soul, illumined by a ray of God’s powerful final grace, can turn to God even in the last moment, with such a power of love that in an instant, it receives from God, forgiveness of all sin and punishment, while outwardly it shows no sign either of repentance or of contrition, because souls [at that stage] no longer react to external things”. (Diary 1698)

An Unpublished Manuscript on Purgatory

Excerpt :

I can tell you about the different degrees of Purgatory because I have passed through them. In the great Purgatory there are several stages. In the lowest and most painful, like a temporary hell, are the sinners who have committed terrible crimes during life and whose death surprised them in that state. It was almost a miracle that they were saved, and often by the prayers of holy parents or other pious persons. Sometimes they did not even have time to confess their sins and the world thought them lost, but God, whose mercy is infinite, gave them at the moment of death the contrition necessary for their salvation on account of one or more good actions which they performed during life. For such souls, Purgatory is terrible. It is a real hell with this difference, that in hell they curse God, whereas we bless Him and thank Him for having saved us.
catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=6253

Dante’s Purgatorio

The Unshriven: Violent Deaths

We are all souls who met a violent death,
and we were sinners to our final hour;
but then** the light of Heaven lit our minds**,

and penitent and pardoning, we left
that life at peace with God, Who left our hearts
with longing for the holy sight of Him.”
 
An Unpublished Manuscript on Purgatory

Excerpt :

I can tell you about the different degrees of Purgatory because I have passed through them. In the great Purgatory there are several stages. In the lowest and most painful, like a temporary hell, are the sinners who have committed terrible crimes during life and whose death surprised them in that state. It was almost a miracle that they were saved, and often by the prayers of holy parents or other pious persons. Sometimes they did not even have time to confess their sins and the world thought them lost, but God, whose mercy is infinite, gave them at the moment of death the contrition necessary for their salvation on account of one or more good actions which they performed during life. For such souls, Purgatory is terrible. It is a real hell with this difference, that in hell they curse God, whereas we bless Him and thank Him for having saved us.
catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=6253
As much as I hope this is true, I don’t think it’s good to cite unverified private revelation to support a position.

Still, it’s a nice read, thank you for the link.
 
On the flip side I believe some Fathers and theologians have hoped for the salvation of all men. I believe Von Balthasar entertained this notion: hell is real, but ultimately all or most respond to God’s grace in the final moments. I believe there are sainted Eastern Fathers with similar views.
 
There is a claim of near consensus among saints, Church Fathers, and Doctors of the Church that most people will be damned. A sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice seems to point in this direction. This is not to mention the revelations given by Our Lady at Fatima. Our Lord Himself made clear in Luke 13:24: “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.”

Now I’m a bit scrupulous, so how do I live a normal faithful life without the anxiety and constant fear of hell for me and my loved ones? The sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice got me particularly triggered. Now when I look at a person, almost every person in fact, I get compulsive thoughts that “this person will most likely go to Hell.” And it bothers me a lot. Help?
Given your acknowledgement that you have scrupulosity, this is a conversation you need to have with a priest…person to person. In that circumstance, he can address your concerns both pastorally and theologically. This is most important, given the level that this is affecting you.

Any matter that touches upon scruples should not be brought to a forum.
 
As much as I hope this is true, I don’t think it’s good to cite unverified private revelation to support a position.

Still, it’s a nice read, thank you for the link.
I guess one could say the same thing about Dante’s book.😉
 
Some Church Fathers did believe in the *possibility of *universal salvation, which is distinct from treating it as a dogma. It is not correct to say that all Church Fathers considered it a point of fact that any men, let alone many, would end up in eternal damnation.

Not that we need to debate it here, but the consensus wasn’t as strong as originally stated.
 
Luke 13:24: “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.”

What does this say? It doesn’t say that they will be condemned, it says they will try to enter through other ways and it will not succeed. “The way” is through Christ and we pray that as many as possible seek to follow Him and to be “in” Him.

They will not find true happiness* in this life* by any other means. But, definitely not all will be saved.

We all sin, but we must seek redemption and reconciliation through Christ alone. In fact we should not despair even of sinning over and over, as long as we seek forgiveness.
 
By accepting Jesus as your Lord and Personal Saviour is the only key to be save
 
By accepting Jesus as your Lord and Personal Saviour is the only key to be save
This isn’t Catholic teaching friend. Christ is indeed the key to salvation…the means of salvation. But the process by which we are saved is more complex. You are presenting more of an Evangelical understanding of the Gospel.
 
Luke 13:24: “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.”

What does this say? It doesn’t say that they will be condemned, it says they will try to enter through other ways and it will not succeed. “The way” is through Christ and we pray that as many as possible seek to follow Him and to be “in” Him.

They will not find true happiness* in this life* by any other means. But, definitely not all will be saved.

We all sin, but we must seek redemption and reconciliation through Christ alone. In fact we should not despair even of sinning over and over, as long as we seek forgiveness.
Follow him not just by words,but deeds.
 
There is a claim of near consensus among saints, Church Fathers, and Doctors of the Church that most people will be damned. A sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice seems to point in this direction. This is not to mention the revelations given by Our Lady at Fatima. Our Lord Himself made clear in Luke 13:24: “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.”

Now I’m a bit scrupulous, so how do I live a normal faithful life without the anxiety and constant fear of hell for me and my loved ones? The sermon by St. Leonard of Port Maurice got me particularly triggered. Now when I look at a person, almost every person in fact, I get compulsive thoughts that “this person will most likely go to Hell.” And it bothers me a lot. Help?
Ah, Here we go again.
I can name many saints and indeed our current Pope Francis believes that salvation is more universal.

CCC God predestines no one to go to hell;620 for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want “any to perish, but all to come to repentance”:621

Lets not say the half the population is probably going to Hell, instead we should say Those who turn away from God will be given every opportunity to repent, and only God can judge their souls or wickedness. God loves us all, he wants us to be in heaven with him, It just would not make sense for most people to go to hell.

Peace
 
I put my trust in my Lord,for I have also read that only certain amount will allow into Heaven,but if you do God,s will you will be saved. Keep you Faith strong,just do the right thing,and always seek the light. AMEN :heaven:
 
This is what Saint Padre Pio said

About hell: "I believe that not a great number of souls go to hell. God loves us so much. He formed us at his image. God loves us beyond understanding. And it is my belief that when we have passed from the consciousness of the world, when we appear to be dead, God, before He judges us, will give us a chance to see and understand what sin really is. And if we understand it properly, how could we fail to repent
 
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