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**Arabic Islam does not tolerate Christians unless they are supine and useful, and even then only by a little. **

and if they are willing to pay a special “tax” as a religious minority.

In the middle East, the only (in my opinion) truly respectable and decent
nation is the State of Israel.

Despite his many flaws, Iran under the rule of the Shah, was rapidly growing into
a respectable and modern nation. The Ayatollahs destroyed all that.

Of all the middle eastern countries, only Israel is really a participatory democracy.
And I hope that Israel does not give back one square INCH more than they already have.
 
And is there any reason to believe higher corporate taxes will cause corporations not to send jobs overseas where taxes are lower?

I’ll put it bluntly.
They need to be FORBIDDEN to do this.
They are taking decent-paying American jobs and sending them
overseas where they can pay people what, here, would be considered worse than
a Slave-Labor wage, and that is absolutely, utterly, dead wrong.

One huge corporation, that benefitted enormously from the tax-breaks granted
by President Bush II, actually laid off thousands of it’s workers and centralized
all operations. They had no monetary need to do that.
They betrayed the trust of all the people who had ever worked faithfully for them.
And even before the massive layoffs, there was a habit of letting people go
just before they reached retirement age, via “eliminating a position.”

THAT practice needs to be forbidden too.
Then look at all the mortgage lenders who ripped naive people off,
by letting them by properties worth a third of a million dollars, with practically zero
down-payment and very low mortgage payments. They HAD to know that those
ballooning property values were not realistic and were not going to last.
I knew it. And I am very, very, very far from being very smart.
But when a $60,000 property skyrockets to a value of $230,000 within three years,
anybody can tell that that is not going to last, and that something is very, very wrong with that picture. And that was happening everywhere all over this country.
All over my neighborhood, small homes that were selling for about $65,000 to $75,000 were suddenly selling for $300,000 and up. That was obscene, that was artificially inflated prices, that people could tell were NOT going to last, and people were being duped into buying those homes at those sky-high prices by the banks and other lenders. When the property values collapsed, as they were destined to, the total amount of the mortgage owed did not go down. Thus these hapless people were stuck with $300,000 mortgages on a property that had gone back down to below $100,000.
This is crazy. And this is the stuff that the money elite pull on people any time that they think they can get away with it. The homeowners get very little help to deal with such terrible reversals of fortune. The big banks and corporations, they get bailed out. You and I are told to either sink or swim. That’s not right.
There is no way to prevent big companies from moving their operations overseas unless we also impose huge tariffs on all foreign commerce. Corporations can simply fold their operations here and restart elsewhere, becoming foreign companies altogether. Without preventing imports or heavily taxing foreign goods, you can’t keep them from going overseas. If this country turns into a “tax and regulation hell”, which is the direction it’s headed, you can count on even more companies jumping overseas.

South Florida is a case all its own. Housing prices where I live are hardly different from what they were in 2006. Land prices here are even higher than they were then, due to robust markets for agriculatural products. And this area is not unique in that respect. In the speculative places like South Florida, Nevada and California, home values did go up too much and then went underwater in a hurry. But it does need to be recognized that it was not the case everywhere.
 
As a devoted Catholic of 60 I am some what bothered that our faith is being used by Catholic media to push views of the right wing only, why certainly we are against abortion,for morality,and support the holiness of the Family all are fine and also right wing issues how ever other issues are closer to left wing views such as feed the hungry Jesus did not say we should only feed those who can afford it.To cloth the Naked to give shelter,to help those who are really sick and need it.he cured the leaper healed the lame raised the dead and never said a word about judging their personal conduct.I feel that to do good for others of course we must never take away their ownership for them selfs,but still their those who are in real need of help anyway to do good must be from God to do nothing must be evil because the absence of good must be evil for what else is their.If a baby dies from lack of correct medicial attention is it no as dead as the aborted child both are wrong if a older person dies for lack of resourse to bye correct perscriptions are they to in a sence aborted by being denied the rest of their life.My issue is that both sides are wright on somethings and wrong on others I see the issues of life and treatment as one as taught by Jesus .who keep numbers on those who suffer or die because of or societys neglect of these other issues who. God bless All
I think many of the differences have to do with the principle of subsidiarity.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity_(Catholicism

Among other things it means that if you have children, your obligation to support them is greater than my obligation to support them. God created us to be organized into family units. We are not a global village where everyone has an equal obligation to support your kids. You have the greater obligation to support your children even if I make more money than you do. The great blessing of having children also comes with the responisibility to provide them with food, clothing, shelter, medical care and education. The greatest part of the education you owe your children is a good example. To teach children that they will not be held accountable for their own children’s support some day is hateful and destructive to the whole society, but it is taught in many public schools.

If the widow next door needs the snow shoveled off her walk it makes more sense for me to just do it than to call the city and have someone do it for her and send the bill to the taxpayers.

I guess I am old and cranky now, but I could give you numerous examples of how things used to work before government grew so out of control. None of my grandparents worked under Social Security, so they lived to old age on their savings and with the help of their children. They did not need a government program to pay for strangers to provide care because they did a good enough job of raising their children that they were better cared for at lower cost by their children.
 
I have always had an irresponsible streak in me, despite the good influence and example of my beloved and saintly mom, especially.
After my horrible mental breakdown in 1981, this irresponsible streak grew to great proportions, which I did not discern, because I was running from very deep mental and emotional pain and looking for relief through multiple diversions, including sin and wasteful spending. (( I had had a powerful spiritual experience of repentance - though not a Catholic and not even basically orthodox in my beliefs - at age 21, and had dedicated my life to God 100% or more. I was totally committed to serving the Almighty. That was what I lived and breathed for. In the midst of this dedication, somehow, I became obsessed with the belief that I had committed “blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.”
THAT blew my world apart completely )).

Now I cannot support my elderly parents. In fact, because of some personal disasters that I did not forsee, including over 2 years of unemployment coupled with high debt, my poor folks are helping me. That is very shameful, I feel, and I hate myself for it.
The government should not HAVE TO help our relatives. We should do that ourselves.
I am begging God to forgive me for my many atrocious failings and to make it possible for me, somehow, to fulfill my obligations to my poor dear parents. I wish that I had never had these mental problems or that first breakdown (of many) in 1981. And I wish that I had had the OOMPH, in spite of the mental illnesses, to apply myself and better myself through say, a trade school. And I wish I had reigned in my impulsive spending.
Our sins and failings hurt others around us. Maybe not right away, but eventually they will. PART OF THE REASON FOR HUGE government spending programs is
the very real fact of Sin in our society, including the sin of indecisiveness, the sin of irresponsibility, and the sin of impulsiveness: acting on impulses and desires without thinking things through or thinking long-term. I never even imagined the disastrous situation I am in right now ever happening. With over 2 decades of professional work experience under my belt, I thought that I would find a good job very quickly after being laid off, and would be able to continue paying my debts down with no problem.
God let the rug be pulled out from under me. And that, in punishment for my sins.

I know that I am rambling. God has revealed to me recently a lot about my interior self, and I am frightened to death by it. I never realized I had so many serious character flaws.
But back to the topic at hand,
**Subsidiarity is correct. ** Those closely related should be the first ones to help provide for their relatives in need. Where they can’t, and many cannot — perhaps the government should step in.
Social Security is a very good thing. But it is abused by upper income people and wealthy people who do not need it. That isn’t right.
One poster wrote about how things were in the old days and how the elderly were better taken care of by their own children. I don’t doubt that that was the case in his or her personal experience, but in reality the “old days” were not rosy and better, not by a long shot. General morality was better in some ways, to be sure (no legal abortion, no legal porno, etc). But retarded people were often herded together in terrible conditions. The elderly very often suffered from poverty and lack of decent basic medical care. Black people were cruelly discriminated against and denied good jobs and decent wages all too often. Without medicare, grandma’s illness could put an entire family into the poor-house for the rest of their lives.
We need the social safety net. But we also need those who can afford to take care of themselves, to step forward and do that, especially if they are well-to-do financially.
And those of us who have messed-up royally in our lives, need to seek the forgiveness, mercy and help of the Almighty to be able to do our just part in fulfilling our obligations.
 
Social Security is a very good thing. But it is abused by upper income people and wealthy people who do not need it. That isn’t right.
We have some pretty big disagreements about Social Security. It is a highly regressive tax that returns only a fraction of what people would get in retirement if they were allowed to keep and invest their own money. I started a thread about this in the faith and finances section about a month ago. In my own case I paid in almost exactly equal amounts into Social Security and my IRAs. For the same cost, I could draw from my IRA’s about 4 -1/2 times the amount of the SS benefit. I just got my first SS payment last week.

Even worse, you have no ownership rights in Social Security. If I die tomorrow my nieces and nephews will get nothing from SS and $440,000 from my IRAs for the same cost. Even without a calculator, which would be the better deal? That lack of ownership keeps poorer workers from passing on a legacy to the next generation, who will get an even worse return from Social Security taxes they pay than my generation got. Since there are so many workers who are too irresponsible to save on their own, all we need to do is to convert SS into a mandatory saving plan that cannot be spent until retirement. This has already been done by Argentina and some municipalites in the US. It gives workers a much better retirement that the Ponzi scheme called Social Security. There is also the statistical fact that minorities have shorter lifespans, so they get smaller lifetime payouts even though they pay in the same amount.
 
I am against the “take care of the poor” programs enacted by Democrats that serve primarily to further diminish the poor.
 
We have some pretty big disagreements about Social Security. It is a highly regressive tax that returns only a fraction of what people would get in retirement if they were allowed to keep and invest their own money. I started a thread about this in the faith and finances section about a month ago. In my own case I paid in almost exactly equal amounts into Social Security and my IRAs. For the same cost, I could draw from my IRA’s about 4 -1/2 times the amount of the SS benefit. I just got my first SS payment last week.

Even worse, you have no ownership rights in Social Security. If I die tomorrow my nieces and nephews will get nothing from SS and $440,000 from my IRAs for the same cost. Even without a calculator, which would be the better deal? That lack of ownership keeps poorer workers from passing on a legacy to the next generation, who will get an even worse return from Social Security taxes they pay than my generation got. Since there are so many workers who are too irresponsible to save on their own, all we need to do is to convert SS into a mandatory saving plan that cannot be spent until retirement. This has already been done by Argentina and some municipalites in the US. It gives workers a much better retirement that the Ponzi scheme called Social Security. There is also the statistical fact that minorities have shorter lifespans, so they get smaller lifetime payouts even though they pay in the same amount.
You have some very good points. But right now, I would say there is no chance whatever of it happening. Bush actually made a move toward partial, voluntary privatization of SS, but he was smacked down hard for it…including by the USCCB. Either the bureaucrats at USCCB had never read the social encyclicals or, having read them, ignored them. I’m afraid your proposition is just too Catholic to make it in this increasingly heathen country.
 
When President Kennedy called for a tax cut in 1961 here is what happen people went out and bought washer dryers televisions toaster tires for the car or even a car they bought curtins cloths things made of steel or textiles and other material most all of which was made in our own great Country,now if we do the same what do we buy that we make it only helps other economies like China or Veit Nam . Most of our manufacturing went over seas so that the Captians of industries could maximize profit not that they wernt make a smaller profit here.Many reasons why they went to avoid requirements on the enviorment labor laws and the cost of labor .yes some coast did get high but when we look most of these regulations are ment to make this a better place to live and breath,car makers had to be brought kicking and screaming to make a car to get 25 miles per gallon now they brage about what they once fought.are we to lower our standards to that of Communist China to compet or should they raise their standards on poluttion labor etc.Yes I favor temporary tax reduction for Business but only after they invest in the good old U.S.A. make a job hear get a tax break.When President Reagan cut taxes on corpoations they had to do nothing in fact they sold their Tax break to each other.I dont think our recent economic policies were ment to help the American worker only to help the Corporate bottom line and I do blame Democrats and Republicians for this but most of all I blame us for letting our system get out of controll so that we the people end up a after thought once the congress and president are bought and paid for by those with the wealth.
 
When President Kennedy called for a tax cut in 1961 here is what happen people went out and bought washer dryers televisions toaster tires for the car or even a car they bought curtins cloths things made of steel or textiles and other material most all of which was made in our own great Country,now if we do the same what do we buy that we make it only helps other economies like China or Veit Nam . Most of our manufacturing went over seas so that the Captians of industries could maximize profit not that they wernt make a smaller profit here.Many reasons why they went to avoid requirements on the enviorment labor laws and the cost of labor .yes some coast did get high but when we look most of these regulations are ment to make this a better place to live and breath,car makers had to be brought kicking and screaming to make a car to get 25 miles per gallon now they brage about what they once fought.are we to lower our standards to that of Communist China to compet or should they raise their standards on poluttion labor etc.Yes I favor temporary tax reduction for Business but only after they invest in the good old U.S.A. make a job hear get a tax break.When President Reagan cut taxes on corpoations they had to do nothing in fact they sold their Tax break to each other.I dont think our recent economic policies were ment to help the American worker only to help the Corporate bottom line and I do blame Democrats and Republicians for this but most of all I blame us for letting our system get out of controll so that we the people end up a after thought once the congress and president are bought and paid for by those with the wealth.
I would agree with you in part, but disagree in part. I will certainly agree (or at least it’s a shared opinion) that most politicians are bought and paid for by those with money.

But I think I am in a minority in here, and perhaps everywhere, in not being quite so convinced that importing foreign goods has done us so very much harm, in itself. Money paid for foreign goods has to (of its nature) come back to the country of origin in some manner. The question really is, in what manner does it come back? Foreigners can use it to buy our products, to invest in businesses or property here, or in buying debt. Unfortunately, right now it seems, the big market is in American debt. But that debt is not foreigners’ fault; its our own. If we didn’t rack up all the debt we do, foreign holders of dollars would have no choice but to buy goods and services from us or to put it to productive investments here, aiding our own capital investment pool. It seems quite possible to me that public debt is one of the reasons American goods don’t sell as well as foreign goods sell here, and is, therefore, one of the reasons why unemployment is so persistent now. Foreigners can just buy our debt and sit on it, clipping their coupons, instead of, say, buying American-made products with it.

And of course, a lot of our spending on foreign stuff is for energy; largely Canadian and Mexican oil, but also from other places. But we can’t drill here. We can’t “frack” here. We can’t explore here. We just have to buy foreign oil because of ideologies that none but the elites believe in. Canada’s unemployment rate is lower than ours and, for the first time, their dollar is worth more than ours is. Well, they balance their budget for one thing, and they have lots of job creation nowadays in oil, gas, mining and timber, the very things our government discourages and threatens to discourage more.

But I’ll add that I admit to being perplexed by the fact that a lot of jobs are shipped overseas. Where I live, a significant part of our production is made by workers here and the products are sold overseas. Granted, most of it goes to Canada, but a fair amount is sold to China. Software produced here is sold all over the world. There are just some things that it’s more efficient to produce here and ship in the U.S. or even elsewhere, than it is for people to do it in foreign countries and ship it here. The wages here aren’t terrific on the lowest end of the scale, but it still allows people to buy cars (granted, used ones…more often pickups) older homes, and most everything else they need or even want. On the high end, like the software people, they make a lot. It does need to be recognized that millionaires here act like everybody else, so “class” differences are pretty muted, and pretty much ignored, and nobody talks the “politics of envy”. You’re considered nutty here if you do.

I read some of these posts by people who live in some parts of the U.S. and I’m baffled by it; the stories of unemployment, closed factories, jobs moved overseas, and so on, and I wonder why some places are that way and some are not. I sometimes wonder whether it perhaps has to do with overburdening costs there that don’t exist in the same measure here. I’m not really sure why that would be. Energy, for one thing, is cheaper. I know that. Food too. Housing is cheaper. Construction is, both residential and commercial. But do those things really explain it all? Why, exactly, is Detroit so awful, when, say, Minnesota (by all accounts) is not? Do situations simply change geographically because of changes in condition in those locations? And, if so, what are those changes?

The area I live in used to be really poor. Now it’s far from being poor. I know why that’s true here. But I don’t know why things are prosperous in other places like Minnesota which I don’t think was ever poor, and where the climate is (in my mind at least) at least as unappealing as Detroit’s.

There are things about all of this recessionary business (and “class warfare”) that I really don’t understand. I’ll admit that I don’t.
 
You have some very good points. But right now, I would say there is no chance whatever of it happening. Bush actually made a move toward partial, voluntary privatization of SS, but he was smacked down hard for it…including by the USCCB. Either the bureaucrats at USCCB had never read the social encyclicals or, having read them, ignored them. I’m afraid your proposition is just too Catholic to make it in this increasingly heathen country.
Thank you for the kind words. I knew where the political opposition against a very modest Bush proposal came from, but I did not know the USCCB had joined them. Maybe it says something about why the catechism teaches that politics is the realm of the laity. This may motivate me to actually write an essay I have been considering as a response to this year’s Campaign For Human Development. There is nothing in their message I disagree with, but I was very dissappointed in what was left out.

You only get a thumbnail today. If you really want to deal with poverty in the United States:
  1. Teach people to respect the person and property of others.
  2. Teach people to keep their word.
  3. Teach people to prioritize their spending.
  4. Teach people to respect marriage.
Let me know if there is anything on that list that the bishops, clergy, and laity should not be doing. It will save me the trouble of writing the whole thing and English was always my lowest score on standardized tests.
 
Thank you for the kind words. I knew where the political opposition against a very modest Bush proposal came from, but I did not know the USCCB had joined them. Maybe it says something about why the catechism teaches that politics is the realm of the laity. This may motivate me to actually write an essay I have been considering as a response to this year’s Campaign For Human Development. There is nothing in their message I disagree with, but I was very dissappointed in what was left out.

You only get a thumbnail today. If you really want to deal with poverty in the United States:
  1. Teach people to respect the person and property of others.
  2. Teach people to keep their word.
  3. Teach people to prioritize their spending.
  4. Teach people to respect marriage.
Let me know if there is anything on that list that the bishops, clergy, and laity should not be doing. It will save me the trouble of writing the whole thing and English was always my lowest score on standardized tests.
This is interesting. When is the last time you heard a sermon on the importance of working; of providing for yourself and your family, and of being prudent with the fruits of your labor, eschewing luxuries you do not need? When, for that matter, have you heard a sermon on keeping chaste until marriage? When have you heard one on actually living to serve your spouse as you would Christ, not seeing him/her as a commodity, perhaps to be tossed aside when he/she was no longer as pleasing to you as you think you deserve? And when have you heard one on the virtue of having as many children as God sends you? When have you heard one on the merits of older people working productively when they might retire in prosperity, while giving the fruits of it to young people trying to have families, or for that matter, giving it to the Church?

Maybe you hear those things a lot, but I sure don’t.
 
Just my drive-by two cents…

If we were to truly love our neighbor as ourself, the answer would be simple. When you walk up to a neighbor, you take quick stock of each other’s assets, weigh it against each other’s relative needs based on family requirements, and divide in an equitable fashion accordingly. Do that with everyone you meet.

Of course, in a real world that doesn’t work. Early Christians adopted a different approach which included the concepts of solidarity (“all for all”) and subsidiarity (“at the local level”). They did this within the framework of the vast Roman Empire. Theirs was a localized socialism approach. They thought the 2nd coming of Jesus was imminent, so they took “love your neighbor as yourself” literally as an action item forming local Christian communes.

If there were more restricted membership local communities pooling their resources in a neighborly fashion, such as the modern day but old-fashioned Amish, then I think it would be easier to conceptualize and effect the ideal of helping each other because you have members that are identifiable and responsible. Lack of subsidiarity, whether globalization or nationalization, is doomed to failure due to the difficulties in ascribing true accountability to individuals. How many times have you heard “I take full accountability” and thought that you would get anything close to “full restitution” and not just a write-off as a loss?

Consequently, I’m more for local communities taking on their own flavor of socialism, and taking away all safety net capability from national levels. It won’t happen, but I think it is still the best approach.
 
Just my drive-by two cents…

If we were to truly love our neighbor as ourself, the answer would be simple. When you walk up to a neighbor, you take quick stock of each other’s assets, weigh it against each other’s relative needs based on family requirements, and divide in an equitable fashion accordingly. Do that with everyone you meet.

Of course, in a real world that doesn’t work. Early Christians adopted a different approach which included the concepts of solidarity (“all for all”) and subsidiarity (“at the local level”). They did this within the framework of the vast Roman Empire. Theirs was a localized socialism approach. They thought the 2nd coming of Jesus was imminent, so they took “love your neighbor as yourself” literally as an action item forming local Christian communes.

If there were more restricted membership local communities pooling their resources in a neighborly fashion, such as the modern day but old-fashioned Amish, then I think it would be easier to conceptualize and effect the ideal of helping each other because you have members that are identifiable and responsible. Lack of subsidiarity, whether globalization or nationalization, is doomed to failure due to the difficulties in ascribing true accountability to individuals. How many times have you heard “I take full accountability” and thought that you would get anything close to “full restitution” and not just a write-off as a loss?

Consequently, I’m more for local communities taking on their own flavor of socialism, and taking away all safety net capability from national levels. It won’t happen, but I think it is still the best approach.
I agree with you in part, but not entirely.

First of all, the Amish are not communists. They do own things individually. But they are, within their own communities, pretty generous. But it is always within the context of industriousness. They’re not all that generous toward those who don’t live up to their standards of effort, and they do expect generosity to be an aid to industriousness.

And I realize some early Christians were at least more of less communal in ownership of things. But not all were. And I would disagree that if we truly loved our neighbor we would seek a balance between our assets and his, to our expense only, of course. There is more to being a human being, or even loving a human being, than sharing our goods with him. Even in our own families, we consider it “loving” to encourage industriousness and self-help on the part of our children. We do that because it IS loving.
Certainly, though, if a child is in a bad way, somehow, we help out simply out of empathy.

Empathy and love are not quite the same things. And love includes wanting and acting in accord with that wanting, what is actually best for the other. Sharing goods is not necessarily what is best for the other.
 
If we were to truly love our neighbor as ourself, the answer would be simple. When you walk up to a neighbor, you take quick stock of each other’s assets, weigh it against each other’s relative needs based on family requirements, and divide in an equitable fashion accordingly. Do that with everyone you meet.
I’m afraid that neighbors, no matter how truly they are loved, would not be amenable to showing me their balance sheet listing all their assets, and their family situation. And if they had a large amount of assets offset by even greater debt, I doubt that they would be amenable to sharing those assets with their neighbors, reducing their net worth past zero.

Of course, if such comparisons and evening out of assets were common, I (and everybody else) would surely make ever attempt to move into the most expensive neighborhood in the city, in the hopes of improving our situation through “equitable” sharing.

Didn’t Karl Marx have a similar idea?
 
Empathy and love are not quite the same things. And love includes wanting and acting in accord with that wanting, what is actually best for the other. Sharing goods is not necessarily what is best for the other.
I’m pretty much in agreement with all of your post. Nevertheless, even an entirely socialist system in a small community will tend to inspire work for reasons other than money - such as pride of family in good standing with the community. In a larger community, where individual visibility is less noticeable, the social pressure to buck up is less pointed, therefore less effective.
 
If we were to truly love our neighbor as ourself, the answer would be simple. When you walk up to a neighbor, you take quick stock of each other’s assets, weigh it against each other’s relative needs based on family requirements, and divide in an equitable fashion accordingly. Do that with everyone you meet.
Notice the tendency to refute the above statement, because when one says WE when talking about mutual sharing, the tendency is to interpret the statement with US (good guys) versus THEM (bad guys) mentality. The above statement was meant to describe a collection of persons, small or large, of just US types. One can hardly use WE in a sentence without the team versus team mentality read into the proposition. One can hardly express a concept fostered by Our Lord because there is the requirement to be perfect individually with a plan that only works well if all participate. Innate self-preservation kicks in whether we like it or not because it is of the Flesh, where the call to be self-less is of the Spirit and has to be learned and earned.
 
Notice the tendency to refute the above statement, because when one says WE when talking about mutual sharing, the tendency is to interpret the statement with US (good guys) versus THEM (bad guys) mentality. The above statement was meant to describe a collection of persons, small or large, of just US types. One can hardly use WE in a sentence without the team versus team mentality read into the proposition. One can hardly express a concept fostered by Our Lord because there is the requirement to be perfect individually with a plan that only works well if all participate. Innate self-preservation kicks in whether we like it or not because it is of the Flesh, where the call to be self-less is of the Spirit and has to be learned and earned.
Yes, the statement would be more applicable if it were directed toward a particular group of us. It might work best in a monastic community, for example, where members take vows of poverty and share all things in common. And even in monastic communities, the members buy things for their own personal use, with permission from the superior.

But I would have difficulty trying to apply it to society at large, or even to small groups, such as neighborhoods.

“When you walk up to a neighbor, you take quick stock of each other’s assets…”

How? Really, how would I take a quick stock of my neighbor’s assets?

“…weigh it against each other’s relative needs based on family requirements,”

Again, how would I do that? If I were serious about either of the above, it would involve a serious invasion of privacy. But I assume that the neighbors are agreeable to full disclosure of assets and needs.

“…and divide in an equitable fashion accordingly.”

I’m supposing that this division of assets (and income?) would be done without the help of lawyers, but both parties could end up in legal trouble or IRS trouble here.

“Do that with everyone you meet.”.

This is going to be one complex undertaking. Unfortunately, the government would likely decide the matter was too complex for individuals to handle and take over the whole function for them. And that’s a scary thought.
 
This is going to be one complex undertaking. Unfortunately, the government would likely decide the matter was too complex for individuals to handle and take over the whole function for them. And that’s a scary thought.
The bottom line is that communities would become more self-sufficient & productive if governed on a smaller scale, unencumbered by wider, more general governing bodies. This would hold true if socialism or capitalism or whatever hybrid is employed at the local level. The success or failure of the community rests on its membership who are identifiable and accountable. Wouldn’t it be nice to know that you could move to a totally Christian state with totally Christian communities where you could practice your religion with like-minded individuals? All this without being taxed by a national body for services (sometimes anathema) whose governance is a matter of foxes governing foxes who protect & serve the hen house. Does this statement represent a point of agreement?
 
The bottom line is that communities would become more self-sufficient & productive if governed on a smaller scale, unencumbered by wider, more general governing bodies. This would hold true if socialism or capitalism or whatever hybrid is employed at the local level. The success or failure of the community rests on its membership who are identifiable and accountable. Wouldn’t it be nice to know that you could move to a totally Christian state with totally Christian communities where you could practice your religion with like-minded individuals? All this without being taxed by a national body for services (sometimes anathema) whose governance is a matter of foxes governing foxes who protect & serve the hen house. Does this statement represent a point of agreement?
Yes, that would be good, provided we don’t go all the way back to feudalism. But being governed on an order representing the principle of subsidiarity would be preferable to excessive centralization. First, family, then neighborhood, then city, then state, then nation.

But before we can get to that point, we’ve got $14 trillion plus interest to pay back.
 
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