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new_atheist
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I just wanted to ask a simple question. If I were a catholic or christian, would oogling at women be considered a sin - whether I’m married or single? Is it bad to admire beauty from a distance only?
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Prodigal_Son
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It’s no sin to “admire beauty”, though it’s not always polite or sociable.
However, looking at women (or men) in a certain way can arouse lust, and doing things in order to arouse lust is wrong, according to Catholics.
Hope this helps.
However, looking at women (or men) in a certain way can arouse lust, and doing things in order to arouse lust is wrong, according to Catholics.
Hope this helps.
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mountee
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It’s no sin to “admire beauty”, though it’s not always polite or sociable.
However, looking at women (or men) in a certain way can arouse lust, and doing things in order to arouse lust is wrong, according to Catholics.
Hope this helps.
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Petaro
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Oogling at women is ungentlemanly, degrading to women in general and the sign of an undeveloped propriety and social manners.
The same can be said for women losing their modesty in the same childish pursuit.
Whether it is a sin depends almost on the maturity of the person, which must be questionable at best.
The same can be said for women losing their modesty in the same childish pursuit.
Whether it is a sin depends almost on the maturity of the person, which must be questionable at best.
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AmberDale
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Why not admire the beauty without oogling?
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BlueEyedLady
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I posted earlier this week that there is a difference between looking at someone you’re attracted to and liking what you see, and objectification. When you say oggle, which do you mean? Quite frankly, it sounds like you’re asking if being a creep is ok, and even religion aside, it is not.
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ela2
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Besides what others said, Ogling at other women when you have a spouse, even if you are just admiring beauty, might make your spouse sin as she might feel jealous and angry. And we are not supposed to push others to sin.
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TMO
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There’s a difference between acknowledging a person as attractive and looking at them with lust. Here’s an example:
Admiring beauty: “Oh, she’s very pretty”
Looking at someone with lust: if you start dwelling on certain parts of her body, and start thinking of things you’d want to do with this person, sexually, then it is a sin.
A lot of secular people think we’re uptight about this but, Catholicism recognizes the weakness of the flesh and it’s practical about it when it comes down to protect marriages and families.
First you start by oogling (at least to me, oogling is more like “undressing” the person in question in your mind), then maybe you start flirting if you know the person, then flirting is not enough because you keek oogling and then you want something more…it’s not being prude, it’s being realist about it. Though not everybody who oogles will commit adultery, it can also lead to other things as watching porn and as you can find out from religious and secular sources as well, it can be devastating.
So, appreciating and admiring beauty in another person should be just that, admiring, not dwelling, not thinking about every centimeter in their body. We should look at people like people, not like something you’re going to buy.
Admiring beauty: “Oh, she’s very pretty”
Looking at someone with lust: if you start dwelling on certain parts of her body, and start thinking of things you’d want to do with this person, sexually, then it is a sin.
A lot of secular people think we’re uptight about this but, Catholicism recognizes the weakness of the flesh and it’s practical about it when it comes down to protect marriages and families.
First you start by oogling (at least to me, oogling is more like “undressing” the person in question in your mind), then maybe you start flirting if you know the person, then flirting is not enough because you keek oogling and then you want something more…it’s not being prude, it’s being realist about it. Though not everybody who oogles will commit adultery, it can also lead to other things as watching porn and as you can find out from religious and secular sources as well, it can be devastating.
So, appreciating and admiring beauty in another person should be just that, admiring, not dwelling, not thinking about every centimeter in their body. We should look at people like people, not like something you’re going to buy.
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TK421
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6th commandment. Thou shalt not ogle thy neighbor. Ogling is expressly not allowed.
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gerund or present participle: ogling
It is, however, encouraged to incorporate “ogle” into sentences as much as possible.
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gerund or present participle: ogling
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stare at in a lecherous manner.
"he was ogling her breasts"
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oldburkes
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I was guilty of this for many years, but since my reconversion to the Faith, I have been blessed with the ability to look at the ‘whole’ woman, no matter who she might be.
Her face: which I may be addressing with conversation.
Her smile, or lack thereof, which tells me something about her current happiness, or trials she may be facing.
Her body: with which she carries out her daily activities, whether with difficulty or with great ease.
Her clothes: which give me a glimpse of how much she respects herself.
I have, lately, begun to blame the secular culture for taking my youthful image of the mystique and dignity of womanhood and turning it into a pile of pornographic emptyness.
I have 58 years to look back on and I regret all those years in which that image was reduced by the idea that something was wrong with me if I didn’t ‘oogle’ women like a “redblooded American male”.
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Her face: which I may be addressing with conversation.
Her smile, or lack thereof, which tells me something about her current happiness, or trials she may be facing.
Her body: with which she carries out her daily activities, whether with difficulty or with great ease.
Her clothes: which give me a glimpse of how much she respects herself.
I have, lately, begun to blame the secular culture for taking my youthful image of the mystique and dignity of womanhood and turning it into a pile of pornographic emptyness.
I have 58 years to look back on and I regret all those years in which that image was reduced by the idea that something was wrong with me if I didn’t ‘oogle’ women like a “redblooded American male”.
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severus68
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Does it matter whether a man is Christian or atheist or a Jew or whatever?I just wanted to ask a simple question. If I were a catholic or christian, would oogling at women be considered a sin - whether I’m married or single? Is it bad to admire beauty from a distance only?
To me, the word"oogling" has a negative connotation. I picture a man with his mouth open, tongue hanging out and eyes popping out.
Nothing wrong with admiring beauty but if you are married, that’s where it should stop. .
Admiration and finding someone attractive is fine, as long as lust is not part of it.
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severus68
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Is it oogle" or “ogle”? Either way, its a no. Not a sin from your point of view, I suppose but wrong, immoral, disrespectful…I just wanted to ask a simple question. If I were a catholic or christian, would oogling at women be considered a sin - whether I’m married or single? Is it bad to admire beauty from a distance only?
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Estevao
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WRT Matthew 5:28, I’ve never understood really what it means to “look lustfully” at a woman.
The Knox Bible makes a more comprehensible translation though.
“27 You have heard that it was said, Thou shalt not commit adultery. 28 But I tell you that he who casts his eyes on a woman so as to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
So the intent is important: “so as to lust after her”. WHY are you looking at this woman? (or man - notice how “gender neutral” translations like the NRSV don’t work here, among many other places) Are you looking at her to “admire her beauty” or to “get your rocks off” or indulge in a sexual/racy fantasy? If it’s the latter, that’s lust. If it’s the former but only ostensibly, and it’s really the latter, that’s lust.
Edit: Why do you call yourself a “new atheist”? New atheists are intellectual pea-brains and bigoted blowhards and hacks. I’d be ashamed to associate myself with them. It would be like if I called myself “Westboro Baptist Church fan”.
The Knox Bible makes a more comprehensible translation though.
“27 You have heard that it was said, Thou shalt not commit adultery. 28 But I tell you that he who casts his eyes on a woman so as to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
So the intent is important: “so as to lust after her”. WHY are you looking at this woman? (or man - notice how “gender neutral” translations like the NRSV don’t work here, among many other places) Are you looking at her to “admire her beauty” or to “get your rocks off” or indulge in a sexual/racy fantasy? If it’s the latter, that’s lust. If it’s the former but only ostensibly, and it’s really the latter, that’s lust.
Edit: Why do you call yourself a “new atheist”? New atheists are intellectual pea-brains and bigoted blowhards and hacks. I’d be ashamed to associate myself with them. It would be like if I called myself “Westboro Baptist Church fan”.
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