"Open your eyes, see the lies right in front of you!"

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“And she blinded me with science!”

Unlike technology, I believe “science” is hogwash. Where does technology come from? Surely, we do not have the innate wit to figure out how to manufacture simple boxes of toothpicks! Does anybody really believe that we were able to bring our society to where it is today based on our own VERY LIMITED innate wit? “Open your eyes, see the lies right in front of you!”

If technology does not flow from earthly scientific method? Where does technology come from? I do not know! But it does not come from our very limited innate wit.

Designing a computer is actually easy compared to designing and building all the machines and apparatuses necessary to build computers!

Heck, we do not have the innate wit to manufacture the packaging that the computer chips come in!

Go ahead, take a close look around you and tell me which of it you could design if asked to do so. Heck, take a dozen college professors with you and see how far you get.

I would say that whoever first developed the toothpick technology would needed to have relied on trial and error, and taken far more than a lifetime to perfect.

Imagine all the technology that needed to be developed in the past 150 years or so. Trial and error is not allowed when it comes to this type of technology due to time constraints. Things just don’t add up when analyzing this.
 
Robert_Sock said:
“And she blinded me with science!”

Unlike technology, I believe “science” is hogwash. Where does technology come from? Surely, we do not have the innate wit to figure out how to manufacture simple boxes of toothpicks! Does anybody really believe that we were able to bring our society to where it is today based on our own VERY LIMITED innate wit? “Open your eyes, see the lies right in front of you!”

If technology does not flow from earthly scientific method? Where does technology come from? I do not know! But it does not come from our very limited innate wit.

Designing a computer is actually easy compared to designing and building all the machines and apparatuses necessary to build computers!

Heck, we do not have the innate wit to manufacture the packaging that the computer chips come in!

Go ahead, take a close look around you and tell me which of it you could design if asked to do so. Heck, take a dozen college professors with you and see how far you get.

I would say that whoever first developed the toothpick technology would needed to have relied on trial and error, and taken far more than a lifetime to perfect.

Imagine all the technology that needed to be developed in the past 150 years or so. Trial and error is not allowed when it comes to this type of technology due to time constraints. Things just don’t add up when analyzing this.
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Things aren’t as complicated as you think they are. When you dedicate your life to something, that something becomes naturally easy to accomplish. Just because I can’t do something just means I haven’t dedicated myself to doing it. The wits are in the ingenuity not the replication of that ingenuity. However even ingenuity is in creating applications to the obvious. It is really just a matter of resource that sparks design.
 
Robert_Sock said:
“And she blinded me with science!”

Unlike technology, I believe “science” is hogwash. Where does technology come from? Surely, we do not have the innate wit to figure out how to manufacture simple boxes of toothpicks! Does anybody really believe that we were able to bring our society to where it is today based on our own VERY LIMITED innate wit? “Open your eyes, see the lies right in front of you!”

If technology does not flow from earthly scientific method? Where does technology come from? I do not know! But it does not come from our very limited innate wit.

Designing a computer is actually easy compared to designing and building all the machines and apparatuses necessary to build computers!

Heck, we do not have the innate wit to manufacture the packaging that the computer chips come in!

Go ahead, take a close look around you and tell me which of it you could design if asked to do so. Heck, take a dozen college professors with you and see how far you get.

I would say that whoever first developed the toothpick technology would needed to have relied on trial and error, and taken far more than a lifetime to perfect.

Imagine all the technology that needed to be developed in the past 150 years or so. Trial and error is not allowed when it comes to this type of technology due to time constraints. Things just don’t add up when analyzing this.
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:confused: I could make a box toothpicks easily. Get a subscription to Make Magazine; it will change your life.🙂
 
Inego_de_Loyola said:
:confused: I could make a box toothpicks easily. Get a subscription to Make Magazine; it will change your life.🙂
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I’m talking about making toothpicks that includes making the means to manufacture them based on your own wit, without outside help.
 
What exactly are the lies were meant to be looking for here?
 
Christine85 said:
Outer space?

No seriously, very smart and creative brainy people
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I spent my whole life searching for these “brainy” people all my life (which included a PhD from UCLA) and I never met anyone who comes close to having the wit necessary figure these things out. For certain Jews, there exist multiple worlds, with our world being the lowest! Come on, do you really think people like us have the intelligence to create a computer chip? What IQ do you expect these “brainy” people to have? My non-verbal IQ is 2 standard deviations above the mean and I consider myself to be a total moron compared to the IQ necessary to create these things!
 
Robert_Sock said:
I spent my whole life searching for these “brainy” people all my life (which included a PhD from UCLA) and I never met anyone who comes close to having the wit necessary figure these things out. For certain Jews, there exist multiple worlds, with our world being the lowest! Come on, do you really think people like us have the intelligence to create a computer chip? What IQ do you expect these “brainy” people to have? My non-verbal IQ is 2 standard deviation above the mean and I consider myself to be a total moron compared to the IQ necessary to create these things!
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Are you insinuating some other intelligent beings have created these things?
 
Christine85 said:
Are you insinuating some other intelligent beings have created these things?
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I think so! What else could it be? Being a total idiot here is VERY humbling to me… “They” say that we humans use just 10% of our brain. Perhaps there exists super intelligent human beings that are able to use 100% of there brains! What I’m suggesting sounds profound, I know, but again, what else could it be?
 
Robert_Sock said:
I think so! What else could it be? Being a total idiot here is VERY humbling to me… “They” say that we humans use just 10% of our brain. Perhaps there exists super intelligent human beings that are able to use 100% of there brains! What I’m suggesting sounds profound, I know, but again, what else could it be?
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Hehe maybe Gods grace working through human minds. I don’t really believe in alien life
 
At first sight, Robert, I thought you had written

“Open your eyes, see the lilies right in front of you!”

Beauty is conclusive evidence for Design because it doesn’t occur accidentally nor is it a figment of our imagination.

Similarly technology is conclusive evidence that the power of creativity doesn’t occur accidentally but comes from a superhuman Source.

Both beauty and technology have the same origin - and it certainly isn’t the** human **mind… 😉
 
Robert_Sock said:
I think so! What else could it be? Being a total idiot here is VERY humbling to me… “They” say that we humans use just 10% of our brain. Perhaps there exists super intelligent human beings that are able to use 100% of there brains! What I’m suggesting sounds profound, I know, but again, what else could it be?
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Have you studied they history of computer technology? do you know of Charles Babbage and Alan Turing? Do you know how transistors work? These are machines. complex maybe, but beyond human capability? hardly. True much of what is necessary came through geniuses such as Einstein. We could not have microchips nearly as fast as ours without the quantum sciences, but if you want to make a study of it you can go from beginning to end of computing history noting the advent of each technology and idea along the way.
 
tonyrey said:
At first sight, Robert, I thought you had written

“Open your eyes, see the lilies right in front of you!”

Beauty is conclusive evidence for Design because it doesn’t occur accidentally nor is it a figment of our imagination.

Similarly technology is conclusive evidence that the power of creativity doesn’t occur accidentally but comes from a superhuman Source.

Both beauty and technology have the same origin - and it certainly isn’t the** human **mind… 😉
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😃

👍

I think that Robert made a good point initially, but using the word “lies” was a bit strong. You’ve made something of his point,and turned it around nicely.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Praise the Lord!!!
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G-d transcends all definitions, including the definition, “existence”
–Maimonides
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The death of the just: Death will reach everyone, the good and the bad; but the destiny of each one is quite different. The just man sees himself in this valley of tears as a prisoner, serving a very hard term. He considers himself a slave in this world, suffering an extremely distressing servitude. He regards himself a sailor caught in a horrible storm. And as death means an end of his confinement, an end of his slavery, and is the port of his salvation, he ceases not to cry with David, “Woe is me that my sojourning is prolonged!. . .” (Ps. 119:5). He ceases not to ask with the Apostle, “. . . Who shall deliver me from the body of this death?” (Rom. 7:24)
–The Golden Key to Heaven, by Saint Anthony Mary Claret
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“Mitzrayim” (Egypt) means constriction, limitation. The spiritual Egyptian exile is the animal soul’s restricting and concealing the G-dly soul so severely that the G-dly soul is compressed to the degree that it is diminished and obscured. “Exodus from Egypt” is the removal of the constriction and bounds; i.e. the intellect in the brain illuminates the heart, bringing about fine character traits translated into actual practice…
– Rabbi Yosef Yitzchak of Lubavitch (as quoted in Hayom Yom, Shevat 4)
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Hail Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, our life our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve; To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us and after this our exile show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary!
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Edmundus1581 said:
I think that Robert made a good point initially, but using the word “lies” was a bit strong. You’ve made something of his point,and turned it around nicely.
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Thanks, Edmundus. Robert is entitled to be trenchant in view of his experiences. 🙂
 
The beginning of wisdom is fear of G-d
– Proverbs 1:7
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Vanity of vanities! All is vanity. What advantage does man have in all his work which he does under the sun? . . . That which has been is that which will be, and that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which one might say, “See this, it is new”? Already it has existed for ages which were before us. There is no remembrance of earlier things, and also of the later things which will occur; there will be for them no remembrance among those who will come later still.
–Ecclesiastes 1:2-3, 7–11
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Just as a blind man is unable to form any idea about colors, or a deaf person to fathom what it means to hear sounds… so the body cannot comprehend the delights of the soul… For we live in a material world, and the only kind of pleasure we can understand is that experienced through our body. But the joys of the spirit are everlasting and ceaseless. There is no resemblance of any kind between the enjoyments of the soul and those of the body.
–Maimonides
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