Openly gay Catholic receiving communion?

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Your obligation is to take care of you and (to the best that you can) yours and trust everybody else to the mercy of God.
Your snide remarks and misguided opinions are extremely UN-Christian. Fortunately, we Catholics believe in the communion of saints, and are supposed to take care of others besides ourselves. Perhaps you’ve never heard of the 2nd great commandment to “love your neighbor as you love yourself”.

Your insistance on just letting everybody else do what they want is one of the major problems with the world today. You’d allow every sin in the world to be committed under the premise of “I just want to be nice to everybody”. That’s the attitude that legalized abortion in the U.S.

If you’re not going to provide insite on true Catholic teaching here, then kindly refrain from posting your opinions so as to mislead others.
 
Your snide remarks and misguided opinions are extremely UN-Christian. Fortunately, we Catholics believe in the communion of saints, and are supposed to take care of others besides ourselves. Perhaps you’ve never heard of the 2nd great commandment to “love your neighbor as you love yourself”.

Your insistance on just letting everybody else do what they want is one of the major problems with the world today. You’d allow every sin in the world to be committed under the premise of “I just want to be nice to everybody”. That’s the attitude that legalized abortion in the U.S.

If you’re not going to provide insite on true Catholic teaching here, then kindly refrain from posting your opinions so as to mislead others.
Wow! You can detect lesbians AND fake Christians?

I don’t think you can point to a place in my post where I said that everybody should be allowed to do whatever they want, but I think that our obligation to run around correcting others’ behaviour is quite limited. Remember that bit about splinters and planks?

If you don’t have full knowledge and understanding of the situation and you are attempting to tell a complete stranger how to live his or her life, then you’re likely to do a lot more harm than good. Even if the person is not a complete stranger, lecturing them about a situation that you know very little about is not going to do any good, and it may do harm.

I will post here as long as I please and the moderators permit. While I appreciate your efforts at fraternal correction, I doubt they’re going to do any good. If you like, I will sign a document absolving you of responsibility before Almighty God or anyone else for the state of my soul, whatever it may be.

Cheers.
 
I know of a person who attends my parish (and is also a coworker of mine) who is a lesbian and is in a relationship with a woman. I saw her receiving communion at Mass yesterday. Correct me if I’m wrong, but a homosexual should not be receiving communion. My wife did not go up to receive yesterday, only because she had missed Mass last week and did not yet get to confession. Yet I see a practicing homosexual receiving the body and blood of our Lord.

In my opinion, this should be reported to our parish priest, if not the bishop.
I happened on this thread and after attempting to read some of the posts, it is obvious to me that the charity level has gone over the top. My suggestion, from a granny point of view, is to pray for the person if the situation is as you describe and then let it go. It is between that person and God and you going to anyone with the information that may or may not be as you perceive would not be helpful.
 
Yet I see a practicing homosexual receiving the body and blood of our Lord.

In my opinion, this should be reported to our parish priest, if not the bishop.
“Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”

I wonder if you people even read your own scripture. :mad:
 
The charity level of this thread has plummeted sharply.

Which is both sad and ironic since the issue being discussed is how to live out Catholic charity.

Before a moderator starts issues warnings or infractions, can we all please avoid pejoratives and rising to the bait dropped by others.

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“Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”

I wonder if you people even read your own scripture. :mad:
I wonder if *you *read *your *Scriptures. Jesus said to the sinner “go and sin no more.”

If a person is open about their sinful lifestyle, it needs to be reported, first to the priest, and if the priest does nothing, then the bishop. In this case, the priest would be obliged to speak with the Catholic lesbian in question, and if she has no intention of ending the scandal by confessing her sin and *changing *that lifestyle, then the priest is not to give her Holy Communion, as it will continue scandal and damn her.

Jesus: And if he will not hear the church: let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.

1 Cor. 5:11-13
But now I have written to you not to keep company, *if any man that is named a brother *be a fornicator or covetous or a server of idols or a railer or a drunkard or an extortioner: with such a one, not so much as to eat. For what have I to do to judge them that are without? So not you judge them that are within? For them that are without, God will judge. Put away the evil one from among yourselves.

In other words, God judges those outside His Church, but the leaders of the Church have the obligation to keep the Church holy, and to put away the ones that say they know better than God and refuse to submit to Him. It’s their obligation to not be a butt-kisser with society.

If she thinks that she knows better than God, there are plenty of Protestant churches that would be willing to take her in and let her do what she wants.
 
What about the 80% who openly use ABC? Is anyone telling them they shouldn’t receive communion or reporting them to the priest? If not then remain silent about this individual.
 
What about the 80% who openly use ABC? Is anyone telling them they shouldn’t receive communion or reporting them to the priest? If not then remain silent about this individual.
Remain silent?! the question was regarding a lesbian, not someone using ABC, not that the answer differs much.

The issue of contraception is different IF a couple is not open about their practicing. In that case the priest cannot refuse communion, as that would be almost like breaking the confessional seal. However, if they’re open about using ABC then they do need to be reported to the priest, and he must try to convince them not to. If they decide to do their own thing, then Holy Communion is to be refused, again, to avoid scandal. Receiving Holy Communion means, among many things, that you are in line with the teachings of the Church. If you’re not, like I said before, their are Protestant churches that would love to have more members.
 
What about the 80% who openly use ABC? Is anyone telling them they shouldn’t receive communion or reporting them to the priest? If not then remain silent about this individual.
Well if I saw that they were actually taking the “pill” or purchasing a condom then I would say something to them. On the other hand if they were publicly bragging about their use of ABC then I would tell the priest.

On the other hand (two of these in one post:eek: ) if the perception of ABC is based on number or children or lack of children only then you are being very very judgmental.
 
On the other hand (two of these in one post:eek: ) if the perception of ABC is based on number or children or lack of children only then you are being very very judgmental.
Couldn’t agree more! We are never to make presumptions. My sister and I are together all the time, and some of her friends, who don’t know me, have wondered if I was her girlfriend, simply because we’re always together. I guess I should have clarified earlier that the certaintly must be there before bringing it up with anyone besides the individual.
 
It’s noone’s job to be reporting someone else to the priest. No matter what sin they may be committing.
 
Well let me say i’m a lesbian in a relationship of 9 yrs. I go to church and i do recieve communion, i have talked to my priest in confession and he sad that i should recieve. He is not the only priest i ve talked to . I have checked with another one in my area. and they say i should.
 
Well let me say i’m a lesbian in a relationship of 9 yrs. I go to church and i do recieve communion, i have talked to my priest in confession and he sad that i should recieve. He is not the only priest i ve talked to . I have checked with another one in my area. and they say i should.
Before I get accused of bashing gays, let me say that is not my intent. I understand that some have strong impulses that way. I myself have strong impulses toward violence; however, when our impulses, desires, whatever, contradict the law of God, we must pray to overcome it. We have a friend of the family who is homosexual, he knows it’s wrong, and fights the urges. Those with homosexual desires are called to live chastely, which is not impossible as many nuns and priests do it. It may be hard, but no harder than it is for straight people.

Priests do not override Church teaching. The Bible and Catechism (1994, approved and hailed by Pope John Paul 2) speaks plainly on this.

Catechism of the Catholic Church:
2357: …Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2359: Homosexual persons are called to chastity.

No one can say that this is impossible to do, esp. nuns and priests have done it for 2000 years.

Romans 1:26-32
For this cause, God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts, one towards another: men with men, working that which is filthy and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error. And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient…Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death: and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.

Jesus said “If you love Me you will obey Me,” and He’s made it clear, through the Scriptures, Old and New, as well as the constant teaching of the Church, that this behavior is sinful and not to be practiced. “Not everyone who says to Me 'Lord, Lord,” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but those who do the will of My Father." It’s forbidden, and there is a reason behind it.

If you think that I’m full of it, fine, but you out to get the opinion of the priests regarding the verses I gave. If they still think it’s okay, I would be interested to know where it is supported in the Bible, or Church documents, or any canonized Saint. If they can’t back it up with those, then they’re expressing personal opinion, not the teachings of God. “If you love Me, you will obey Me…With God, all things are possible.”

My suggestion: go to Confession, and make a Rosary novena for light, and to go with the novena (and to not go back in a state of sin) remain totally continent. Research the topic.
 
It’s noone’s job to be reporting someone else to the priest. No matter what sin they may be committing.
Jesus disagrees-
St. Matt. 18:15-17
the words of Jesus: …And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church: let him be to thee as teh heathen and publican.

Romans 1:26-32
For this cause, God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts, one towards another: men with men, working that which is filthy and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error. And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient…Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death: and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.

If you know better than the Son of God and the Church…think again. Admonishing the sinner is a spiritual work of mercy; sparing the soul is more important than sparing temporary feelings and possible humiliation. We most certainly are not to become self righteous, I have my faults and it’s more than a few. “If you love Me you will obey Me.” If somebody thinks that I’m not living in obedience to God I want to be confronted on it, but back it up with something besides personal opinion.
 
Thank you to all who participated. This thread is now closed.
 
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