Opinions on these marriage helping resources please

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I don’t see anything contrary to Catholic teaching in the first article. The second article is fundamentalist Baptist and it not in line with Church teaching.

I suggest you read Catholic documents such as Pope John Paul II’s encyclicals and apostolic letters on marriage, women, and the family: Mulieris Dignitatem and Familiaris Consortio. Also, Casti Connubii by Pius XI .

Also, Kimberly Hahn has a bible study series out. Chosen & Cherished. I believe it will be a 3 book series.
 
Thanks, I thought that second one seemed a bit “wrong”.
 
So, are there any online resources that spell out the roles of a Catholic husband and wife?
 
So, are there any online resources that spell out the roles of a Catholic husband and wife?
I have found that Catholics United for the Faith has great information. www.cuf.org. There was an excellent article about a year ago, but I can’t seem to locate it now. I found this one just now . . . cuf.org/Laywitness/Online_view.asp?lwID=1223. This may be helpful. But if you do some digging on the CUF website, you may find more.
 
loveandrespect.com/index.php

is this in line with Church teachings?
I’m on dial up and that site will not load 🙂

Bottom line, if this is a Protestant group, they may have some good ideas on marriage but you MUST begin with the Sacramental meaning of Catholic Marriage.

Think of it this way, would you go to a Baptist to learn everything about Confiession? While they can talk about a part of it - sin and repentance, they do not grasp the sacrament as the Church does.

Is it the whole “submissive” thing? If you want, PM me and I’ll ask Father (remember, I work for two great holy Priests) for some reccomends.
 
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I was just on those two sites before I posted… maybe it’s just because I’m tired, but I couldn’t find the answers I was looking for…🤷**
That’s because the Church does not teach of the submission of wife to husband in marriage as many Protestant sects do. I would think that the most recent explanation of what Catholics should believe in this area come from John Paul II, who wrote and spoke of the *mutual submission *of husband *and *wife in his theology of the body and in Mulieris Dignitatem. From that helpful article linked by a PP:
Of Ephesians 5:22, the Pope says that “the author does not intend to say that the husband is the lord of the wife and that the interpersonal pact proper to marriage is a pact of domination of the husband over the wife. Instead, he expresses a different concept–that the wife can and should find in her relationship with Christ, who is the one Lord of both of the spouses, the motivation of the relationship with her husband which flows from the very essence of marriage and of the family.”

The fullest expression of the Holy Father’s teaching regarding the role of the husband in Marriage can be found in his apostolic letter Mulieris dignitatem (August 15, 1988). Following the line of thought from the Wednesday general audience discussed in the two proceeding paragraphs, the Pope indicates in Mulieris dignitatem 24 that the hermeneutic intended by the author of Ephesians for verses 22 and 23 is verse 21. John Paul II identifies “mutual subjection” (cf. verse 21) as the Gospel “innovation” to be applied to the relationship between husband and wife. Referring to Ephesians 5:25, he reiterates that “the husband is called the ‘head’ of his wife as Christ is the head of the Church.” If the husband is the “head,” then he must follow Christ’s example and give himself for his wife, even to the point of sacrificing his own life. The Pope continues by pointing out a difference within the Christ-Church, husband-wife analogy: **whereas it is only the Church which submits to Christ, within Marriage the spouses are mutually subject to one another. In John Paul II’s view, the mutual subjection of husband and wife “must gradually establish itself in hearts, consciences, behavior and customs.” **He implies that a full embrace of this innovation of the Gospel is something not yet achieved. He concludes Mulieris dignitatem 24 by emphasizing that “all the reasons in favour of the ‘subjection’ of woman to man in marriage must be understood in the sense of a ‘mutual subjection’ of both 'out of reverence for Christ.’”
 
Real life…

Submission is the other side of the same coin, husband’s side is much more difficult - loving his wife as Christ loves the Church.
 
I guess I’m looking for more “real life” examples… I can read ABOUT the whole submissive thing but it’s the actual day to day practice that I am completely unclear on.
I’m no expert by any means, but a few suggestions…

To practice mutual submission means that both spouses regard the other as a gift, and see their main role as one of self-giving. Our vows our mutual (DH and I say ours every night), and require that we each sacrifice for the other and for our family as much as God asks of us. Submission means that we have to put our own concerns aside, and care for those of others before ourselves. It means we don’t always get to do what we want. It means respecting our husbands as men, who are strong and gifted in their own unique ways, and showing them that we love, cherish and respect them with all that we are. In the same way, I know that my husband respects me and loves me as his wife, a strong, unique and gifted woman. In everything, we place each other above all others, and at the same time acknowledge that we are on this earth to serve them–to love them and to bring them closer to God.

I don’t think of mutual submission as always accepting the judgment of my husband in everything just because he’s my husband. We’re a team in this whole marriage thing, and we talk about everything and make decisions together. When one of us is more informed or more passionate about a particular decision, the other recognizes that they need to maybe not stick to their own position so much but should take into serious consideration what the other thinks. That’s what it means to mutually submit.

Prayer and life together in the sacraments are really important. I know this isn’t very possible for you right now, Malia, but if you can’t pray with your husband, always pray for him. I always as the Virgin Mary to pray for me, so that I will have the grace to be a good wife, and someday, mother.

Hope that helped a bit!
 
Real life…

Submission is the other side of the same coin, husband’s side is much more difficult - loving his wife as Christ loves the Church.
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LOL, now it’s all clear…

as mud:p**
 
Prayer and life together in the sacraments are really important. I know this isn’t very possible for you right now, Malia, but if you can’t pray with your husband, always pray for him. I always as the Virgin Mary to pray for me, so that I will have the grace to be a good wife, and someday, mother.

Hope that helped a bit!
**That did help, thanks. As for prayer together, we try to do that through Facebook every night. While we aren’t technically together we are still united.
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The second article is fundamentalist Baptist and it not in line with Church teaching.
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If any Catholic husbands are reading this I would really like your take on the second link in my OP…**
 
The proverbs 31 woman is a perfect example of a submissive wife.
Yes! Proverbs 31 is the subject of Kimberly Hahn’s bible study.

Also, Emmaus Road publishing (Steubenville) has a women’s bible study series by Stacy Mitch.
 
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