Opponents of Haas and Haugen Unite!

[Nichevo]

You who feel that whoever gave Haas, Haugen, and Carey Landry their first introduction to musical education should be excommunicated are called to join The Society for a Moratorium on the Music of Marty Haugen and David Haas.
You can do so by going here:

mgilleland.com/music/moratorium.htm

 

[pnewton]

Nichevo:

You who feel that whoever gave Haas, Haugen, and Carey Landry their first introduction to musical education should be excommunicated are called to join The Society for a Moratorium on the Music of Marty Haugen and David Haas.

Do you want a complete moratorium? I have seen one or two Haugen pieces I like (out of several hundred), but then even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

 

[thann]

There are a couple of Haugen pieces I quite like (Shepherd Me, O God and his setting for Evening Prayer, which is exquisite). Don’t care much for any Haas, and I outgrew Landry. So I guess the two pieces I like by Haugen are proof that a broken clock is, indeed, right twice a day!

'thann

 

[Catholic90]

Personally, I like Haas music. So does most of my parish. What I can’t stand is the old slow dirge hymns that are sung waaaay too slow. Naptime there!

FWIW, Haas is a teacher at my son’s school. He is very good.

 

[brotherhrolf]

Brother Hrolf is going to petition Cestusdei for a fatwah against Haas Haugen et al. DRECHT! DRECHT!

        UP!

“I will go to the altar of God”…

Muppet music fit for Kermie and Miss Piggy but not for an ordination.

 

[JKirkLVNV]

I’m joining!!! I honestly thought of having all their stuff played at my funeral, because, well, it would be the last time I had to hear it.

 

[puzzleannie]

some of these songs sound entirely different when played and sung up tempo, which makes a good arguement for playing music written for guitar & "band"etc. on the guitar, and not the organ with choir. I guess there is no way to “speed up” the organ past a certain point. Fast music played slow is dreadful and funereal, no matter what the lyrics.

 

[Nichevo]

Here’s a wonderful rewrite of “City of God” from the website.

A Ditty to God (after Dan Schutte’s The City of God)

Awake from your slumber, arise from your sleep;
The homily’s over, it wasn’t too deep.
He spoke of a ‘journey’, well, what else does he say?
We’re all part of a ‘story’ as we go on our way.

So let’s sing a ditty to God,
It’s a way we can all be together.
And we’ll be the City of God
If we tell his story once more.

We’re all part of a journey, to ‘I-don’t-know-where’,
But that isn’t important, so long as we’re here.
Be part of the story of me and of you,
And don’t worry asking if the story is true.

No, just sing a ditty to God,
It’s a way we can all be together.
It would be a pity for God
If we told his story no more.

So come if you’re ready, the meek and the smug,
For God is a Teddy, he’ll give you a hug.
And take consolation, till next time we meet,
As you go on your journey, God’s in the back seat.

So just sing a ditty to God,
It’s a way we can all be together.
It would be a pity for God
If we told his story no more.

 

[csbyrnes84]

You honestly like that devil’s music? May God have mercy upon your soul!

Catholic90:

Personally, I like Haas music. So does most of my parish. What I can’t stand is the old slow dirge hymns that are sung waaaay too slow. Naptime there!

FWIW, Haas is a teacher at my son’s school. He is very good.

 

[serendipity]

Forgive me, but I do like a few of their songs. I felt immense comfort by “On Eagle’s Wings” when played at my grandmother’s funeral. Also, I think some of them are also good becuase they can be easily sung by everyone. So many songs chosen at church are almost impossible to follwo, tune-wise and then people wonder why Catholcis don’t sing at church. Overall thought, I think their collection is best confined to children’s masses because they present simple messages with simple melodies.

 

[csbyrnes84]

Their music is an abomination. Years ago we used to burn people like Haugen and Haas at the stake.

No thank you, I’ll stick with Gregorian Chant and Palestrina and you can have all the, out of style, “church” folk music that you like.

serendipity:

Forgive me, but I do like a few of their songs. I felt immense comfort by “On Eagle’s Wings” when played at my grandmother’s funeral. Also, I think some of them are also good becuase they can be easily sung by everyone. So many songs chosen at church are almost impossible to follwo, tune-wise and then people wonder why Catholcis don’t sing at church. Overall thought, I think their collection is best confined to children’s masses because they present simple messages with simple melodies.

 

[Bobby_Jim]

serendipity:

Forgive me, but I do like a few of their songs. I felt immense comfort by “On Eagle’s Wings” when played at my grandmother’s funeral. Also, I think some of them are also good becuase they can be easily sung by everyone. So many songs chosen at church are almost impossible to follwo, tune-wise and then people wonder why Catholcis don’t sing at church. Overall thought, I think their collection is best confined to children’s masses because they present simple messages with simple melodies.

Yes, I think the best ones (like “On Eagles Wings”) are good in part because they’re easy to sing. A lot of contemporary stuff (especially David Haas, it seems) makes use of some unusual intervals and rhythms which make them harder to sing. But it makes them a little more “jazzy”, and more interesting for the trained musicians who are singing or playing the accompaniment.

I like a lot of the old hymns because they have very basic rhythms, and predictable melodies (along with beautiful lyrics, in many cases). This makes them easy to sing.

 

[pnewton]

csbyrnes84:

Their music is an abomination. Years ago we used to burn people like Haugen and Haas at the stake.
.

We? Are you refering to Catholics or people from New Jersey.

 

[otm]

Well, I see the musical snobs have stuck their collective noses in the air. Hope you folks don’t drown in the next rain storm! :dancing:

 

[brotherhrolf]

Muppet music is muppet music. Call me a snob, it’s OK. I relish the title. With over 1500 years plus of Catholic music history, why should we be subjected to Kermit and Miss Piggy? Face it. These guys are not Monteverdi, Byrd, Vivaldi, Walton or, gosh can I say it, John Rutter. Will these guys stand the test of time?

 

[pnewton]

brotherhrolf:

. Will these guys stand the test of time?

Yes.

As co-record holder for the most hymns every written over a single breakfast.

 

[Catholic90]

csbyrnes84:

You honestly like that devil’s music? May God have mercy upon your soul!

Devil’s music??? I see you are bit of an extremist!!

No, last time I attended, there was no RAP at our mass!! I don’t believe H or H even write RAP!! (THAT is devil’s music!)

H and H write singable, fun music that is easily sung. The kids love it and sing it very LOUDLY (quite unlike their reaction to and participation in the funeral dirges on the organ!!)

Haas is putting on a benefit concert at my son’s school in a few weeks. We are thinking of going. I went to one a few years ago, and it was awesome!

 

[csbyrnes84]

Well I was referring to Catholics, but I’m sure it could applie to New Jerseyan’s as well

pnewton:

We? Are you refering to Catholics or people from New Jersey.

 

[csbyrnes84]

I was not referring to THE Devil, but rather to THAT devil, Haas.

Catholic90:

Devil’s music??? I see you are bit of an extremist!!

No, last time I attended, there was no RAP at our mass!! I don’t believe H or H even write RAP!! (THAT is devil’s music!)

H and H write singable, fun music that is easily sung. The kids love it and sing it very LOUDLY (quite unlike their reaction to and participation in the funeral dirges on the organ!!)

Haas is putting on a benefit concert at my son’s school in a few weeks. We are thinking of going. I went to one a few years ago, and it was awesome!

 

[Nichevo]

Well I was referring to Catholics, but I’m sure it could applie to New Jerseyan’s as well

The problems with burning at the stake in NJ today are many.Getting permits so far in advance, making sure your property is zoned for stake burning, making sure there are not drought conditions that prevent stake burning (and car washing, lawn watering, etc.), plus if you do build a stake burning pit onto your property, it’s new construction and your property taxes go up. How about we kidnap them, and lock them in a room where they are forced to listen to “Hi God!” until their ears bleed and they recant their musical heresy?