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Hello Catholics,

What recourse do Catholics have who wish to live a traditional Catholic life if we do not have the EF available (the nearest one is 1 hour and 30 minutes away)?
 
Dear rben20,

How is getting a TLM in your area coming along?

You could try getting a chapter of Una Voce in your area: unavoce.org/

A subscription to Latin Mass Magazine? latinmassmagazine.com/

Website looks terrible, but the magazine is interesting.
 
I don’t mean to sound abrupt; but I don’t necessarily think living a traditional Catholic life requires you to attend the EF over the OF.

Nonetheless, to state the obvious, your options are:
  1. Drive to the EF if it’s that important to you; and
  2. Otherwise attend mass locally; or
  3. Move.
Perhaps you might find comfort if you spoke with some of your local priests about your, apparent, discomfort?

Pax,
OA
 
Thanks HCC! Well so far its been stalled but not in a bad way. Monsignor is relearning the EF 🙂 We still need to get more solid numbers but its growing and people are asking for updates. Time frame I believe is in about 6 months but I can’t say for sure. Within the next year at the latest!

It’s just what I prefer Orleans…I by no means am trying to say in order to be traditional you need to attend a EF Mass. Sorry if it came out that way. Unfortunately I am a student so two of those options are not possible for me at the moment. I do attend Mass locally but it just doesn’t have any Latin in it all which is what I would like. There use to be a EF Mass in our area (30 minutes out) that I would make the drive for every Sunday but it was cancelled after they moved the priest who would say the Mass. I have expressed my concerns to priests and even our Vicar General but I just get the “we will notify others of your concern” and see nothing come out of it. 😦
 
. . . There use to be a EF Mass in our area (30 minutes out) that I would make the drive for every Sunday but it was cancelled after they moved the priest who would say the Mass. I have expressed my concerns to priests and even our Vicar General but I just get the “we will notify others of your concern” and see nothing come out of it. 😦
That is unfortunate about the EF Mass that was cancelled, but at least it seems like your location is temporary.

I had to chuckle about the response you got about your concerns. I’m in the military and we refer to that as a “Thank you for your interest in national security” letter.

Pax,
OA
 
I think you can go to a sspx mass if you dont adopt a schismatic attitude, double check though. Also if you dont like the novus ordo, look into a greek catholic mass.
 
Thanks HCC! Well so far its been stalled but not in a bad way. Monsignor is relearning the EF 🙂 We still need to get more solid numbers but its growing and people are asking for updates. Time frame I believe is in about 6 months but I can’t say for sure. Within the next year at the latest!

It’s just what I prefer Orleans…I by no means am trying to say in order to be traditional you need to attend a EF Mass. Sorry if it came out that way. Unfortunately I am a student so two of those options are not possible for me at the moment. I do attend Mass locally but it just doesn’t have any Latin in it all which is what I would like. There use to be a EF Mass in our area (30 minutes out) that I would make the drive for every Sunday but it was cancelled after they moved the priest who would say the Mass. I have expressed my concerns to priests and even our Vicar General but I just get the “we will notify others of your concern” and see nothing come out of it. 😦
Just keep doing what you’re doing and trusting Our Lord. For years I could only attend the EF Mass on Sunday and it wasn’t a great one either, the priest would fly through it. I was so tempted to go to an illicit EF Mass, it was right over there, offered daily and all I had to do was go. But, no, no, no…I wouldn’t. I obeyed and offered it up–everyday, for years!

I think I mentioned in a previous post 2 little miracles re TLM that happened. If you recall, there were places where I envisioned TLM being held and was told it would never happen at either of those places. Both now have daily EF Mass. So, just hang in there, God will hear you and answer in due time.
 
Hey rben20, We have to hop a flight for a TLM. It’s only 110 miles, but would be a 2 hour each way due to security now days, plus a couple $100.

Our bishop has already stated he is ok with the EF in every parish, IF the priest is willing & able to say both EF & OF.

Also, most of our priest on this island are on loan from diocese outside the US.

Our parish is the largest on Island with 3 Churches (2 mission) & only 2 priest. Also the parishioners run this parish & are the most liberal I have ever seen. We are praying that will change very soon and pray this house will out lives us or we’ll be living on the beach. NO JOKE! :crying:

Prayers for you!
 
If there no EF nearby, I would:
  1. Pray!
  2. Talk to your pastor, see if anyone also requested it. Tell him you are willing to help in whatever way your means allow.
-Financial help is always needed.
-You need an organizer too - at my parish the organizer is tremendously important, he makes sure there is always a priest available to say the TLM, makes sure there are enough servers, makes sure the choir is paid when we have Sung Mass, makes sure we have 3 ministers for planned Solemn Masses, makes sure announcements are made, gets major events into blogs and calendars, etc. etc.
-Offer to try to start or participate in a schola.
-Offer to learn to serve the Mass. (I recommend Jeffrey Collins book on the rubrics).
-Offer, if he wants to learn (or for other priests) to buy the training DVDs for them … or just buy them and give them out anyway. A few different groups including the FSSP have made such DVDs for priests.
  1. Pray part of the traditional Roman Breviary. I would recommend starting with great websites like Officium Divinum and Divinum Officum (different sites, easily googleable).
hope this helps! I am blessed with a parish with a daily TLM, regularly Sung and sometimes Solemn, but I was once in a position like yours.
 
You need to realize that the celebration of Mass is not about what we “like.”
Although that’s exactly what happened with the overuse of the vernacular, despite Vatican II’s provision:
Linguae latinae usus, salvo particulari iure, in Ritibus latinis servetur (Particular law remaining in force, the use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites).

And I don’t think Sacrosanctum Concilium was just a summary of “likes”!
 
I don’t mean to sound abrupt; but I don’t necessarily think living a traditional Catholic life requires you to attend the EF over the OF.

Nonetheless, to state the obvious, your options are:
  1. Drive to the EF if it’s that important to you; and
  2. Otherwise attend mass locally; or
  3. Move.
Perhaps you might find comfort if you spoke with some of your local priests about your, apparent, discomfort?
Option 4. Pray very hard that parishioners in either Roma or Rio Grande City petition Bishop Flores of the Diocese of Brownsville to have an EF Mass there or at least a Latin OF Mass. Then you would only have to drive about an hour to have an EF Mass. If there is the demand, Bp. Flores would probably grant it. There are two EF Masses in the Brownsville Diocese already and a few Latin OF and EWTN-type Masses.
 
An hour and a half!!! Wow, if only ours was that close. We drive 2 1/2 each way. Of course we can only make it twice a month. The other 2-3 Sundays we go to our local OF parish, which is for the most part quite reverent. And once a month we get a Dominican low Mass locally.
 
this is good News.

Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, then Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, to the Bishops of Chile, given 13 July, 1988, in Santiago, Chile:
“…we ought to get back to the dimension of the sacred in the liturgy. The liturgy is not a festivity; it is not a meeting for the purpose of having a good time. It is of no importance that the parish priest has cudgeled his brains to come up with suggestive ideas or imaginative novelties. The liturgy is what makes the Thrice-Holy God present amongst us; it is the burning bush; it is the Alliance of God with man in Jesus Christ, Who has died and risen again. The grandeur of the liturgy does not rest upon the fact that it offers an interesting entertainment, but in rendering tangible the Totally Other, Whom we are not capable of summoning. He comes because He wills. In other words, the essential in the liturgy is the mystery, which is realized in the common ritual of the Church; all the rest diminishes it. Men experiment with it in lively fashion, and find themselves deceived, when the mystery is transformed into distraction, when the chief actor in the liturgy is not the Living God but the priest or the liturgical director.”
 
The TLM is your birthright as a Catholic. The clergy owe it to you.

That said… what’s an hour and a half drive? That’s not very bad. It’s worth it, and the hardship will be a holy deed.
 
You need to realize that the celebration of Mass is not about what we “like.”
I feel the same way. We go to Mass to worship God with one another as opposed to going to Mass to enjoy the experience. I have been to Masses around the world and I am pretty sure God is just as happy with the celebration no matter the language or traditional practices.
 
I feel the same way. We go to Mass to worship God with one another as opposed to going to Mass to enjoy the experience. I have been to Masses around the world and I am pretty sure God is just as happy with the celebration no matter the language or traditional practices.
It isn’t so much what some of us may “like” as it is some Liturgical circuses are so over the top we have to keep reminding ourselves we are actually in a Catholic church! All most of us want is a Mass that is deeply spiritual, reverent and respectful to God and our neighbors. Yes I’m aware there are OF parishes that are just so, visited one just this past Sunday but it was a rare parish based on my experiences over the past couple of decades.

In particular I don’t need hand waving hallelujahs, hand-grabbing and hugging Signs of Peace, jokes and sports team opinions from the pulpit, EMHCs in jeans and other sloppy or revealing attire, servers in shorts and clogs, guitars, drums, oh well, you get the point. Just let me pray quietly and peacefully and leave Mass feeling spiritually refreshed not keyed up and frustrated.
 
I feel the same way. We go to Mass to worship God with one another as opposed to going to Mass to enjoy the experience. I have been to Masses around the world and I am pretty sure God is just as happy with the celebration no matter the language or traditional practices.
I understand both of your alls concerns…that is why I still go to my OF Mass. I go to receive God in the Eucharist and to learn from the readings. However, your concern is a double standard. How many times have people been turned down because they request the priest to face east during the Mass? we shouldn’t rock the boat…the parishioners would flip or Why don’t we require the parishioners to kneel and receive on the tongue as those do for the Holy Father? we shouldn’t rock the boat…the parishioners wouldn’t like that You see, why is it that what is properly asked for is treated as a “like” when it’s really the other way around? My like is “I’d like for them to follow as they are suppose to…” rather than their own like which is a matter of preference. My type of like is usually not catered to for whatever reason sadly.

Besides, you do realize we are under the Diocese of Rome which has Latin roots and official language is Latin. Being a Roman Catholic, we should have some Latin somewhere!
 
The TLM is your birthright as a Catholic. The clergy owe it to you.

That said… what’s an hour and a half drive? That’s not very bad. It’s worth it, and the hardship will be a holy deed.
Considering make a trip now. Well at least ever so often 😃
 
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