Opus Dei controversy?

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**David said
:While I admire any group who devote themselves to God in such a complete way and focus on good works and holiness. I also believe that the mortification practices of the Opus Dei are seriously misguided, and yes that would include practices by some of the saints who did similar destruction to their own flesh. Fasting for days and even weeks? Yes. That has profound spiritual benefits. Physically inflicting wounds on yourself? No, absolutely not. Also, from what I’ve heard, the authority structure and spiritual director roles in the lives of individuals is also out of line. Reminds me of the old shepherding/discipleship movements of the early charismatic movement in the 70’s.

Sara says:
What do you think Jesus did.? His only focus was holiness and good works his whole life. He also suffered, fasted was humiliated, denied, betrayed and rejected then he was crucified. The Saints are role models and examples for how all Christians should unite themselves with Christ.**

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David said
:While I admire any group who devote themselves to God in such a complete way and focus on good works and holiness. I also believe that the mortification practices of the Opus Dei are seriously misguided, and yes that would include practices by some of the saints who did similar destruction to their own flesh. Fasting for days and even weeks? Yes. That has profound spiritual benefits. Physically inflicting wounds on yourself? No, absolutely not. Also, from what I’ve heard, the authority structure and spiritual director roles in the lives of individuals is also out of line. Reminds me of the old shepherding/discipleship movements of the early charismatic movement in the 70’s.

Sara says:
What do you think Jesus did.? His only focus was holiness and good works his whole life. He also suffered, fasted was humiliated, denied, betrayed and rejected then he was crucified. The Saints are role models and examples for how all Christians should unite themselves with Christ.

Sara
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Even saints make mistakes, Sara. The sufferings of Christ were not self-inflicted. He was tortured and murdered because of Who He is and what He taught. The martyrs suffered at the hands of others as well because of their association with Jesus. That is all very different than people who torture themselves or crucify themselves in order to be like Jesus. If you want to be like Jesus, then preach the Gospel to those who reject you and suffer their wrath - try preaching in Turkey or Iran or Saudi Arabia. If you feel like you lack sharing in the sufferings of Christ, there’s no need to persecute yourself, you can be like Jesus and do it while serving the Kindgom, preach to the Muslims, they’ll wound you aplenty.

David
 
**David said:

If you feel like you lack sharing in the sufferings of Christ, there’s no need to persecute yourself, you can be like Jesus and do it while serving the Kindgom, preach to the Muslims, they’ll wound you aplenty.

I suffer everyday with Christ," the suffering soul is closest to God."

I feel you are taking the Opus Dei Controversy way too far, BTW the saints were not perfect but they became Holy, they suffered for Christ, which again is what most of us should be encouraging others to become rather than just religious.

Sara**

Sara
 
David:

You make several assumptions such as misguided mortification. It is not for everyone even for the members of OD. It depends on the disposition. Christ said that certain demons may only be cast out by prayer and fasting. Fasting is mortification. If a Christian chooses to take a cold shower in the middle of winter to strenghten his will in self denial and offer up the “bodily prayer” for certain intentions then kudos.

I see people in the gyms working out and suffering even worse, joggers in 100 degree heat for the prime purpose of looking more attractive. No one seems to think that’s crazy. But to do it for more noble things–the world deems that nuts.

As for recruitment: before one becomes a numerary, the individual has to ask for membership annually for 5 years. So for the ones claiming being held like a prisoner completely makes no sense. In fact if the priest doesn’t think you have a vocation they’ll tell you straight up.

If you’re getting mixed info from us and your acquaintances, go straight to the source and find out for yourself.

Good luck.

in XT.
 
DavidB,

You do not have a calling to Opus Dei, no problem don’t join. It is not for everyone. I would suggest that you might want to consider a more charitable approach to a group that you really know nothing about. I wonder how you feel when people call Catholics cultists?
 
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sara,

I did not know that–thank you.
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Another poster does mention it in post #48
David,
I see that in your profile you list yourself as a Charismatic Episcopalian. Did you know that you don’t even have to be a Christian to be a Cooperator in Opus Dei? Why don’t you give it a closer look and keep an open mind to it instead of wanting to believe the lies you have heard or read? BTW, ODAN is out to get OD in case you didn’t figure that out yet. Oh, also, I’m a Cooperator with Opus Dei and proud to say it!
St. Josemaria, pray for us.
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