Opus Dei vs. Regnum Christi

[JKS]

a. Girl Scouts. (We stayed with them and the situation seems to have improved somewhat).

b. Third degree females, and third degree males. Commonly referred to as “consecrated” but they aren’t the same as consecrated virgins. I use the other term to avoid confusion.

c. My OD friend expressed dismay that latecomers get the same reward as she and other lifetime achievers do; I don’t remember her wording exactly and of course she did not know that I didn’t show up in the vineyard until later in the day…

Julia,
Have you looked into Together! ? After the court battle between the Sellors (who created Familia) and the LC, it was determined that while the LC could have the name Familia, the Sellors would be able to continue to develop and market the program under another name. I understand the materials have been further developed, and Together! also costs less. The LC has been banned or restricted in several dioceses, not all liberal.

 

[bpbasilphx]

** I know that neither OD or RC are approved in the Seattle Archdiocese.**

**If they are not approved in your local church–that is, your archdiocese–maybe this is a good sign that the Lord doesn’t want YOU to get involved in either one. (And I’m not saying anything against either.)

If you’re looking for a more structured spiritual framework, perhaps you should look into being a Benedictine oblate (surely there’s a Benedictine monastery in your diocese) or third order or something similar.**

 

[BoMac3]

Is Regnum Christi considered a third order?

Thanks,
Bob

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

You need Opus Dei like you need a hole in the head my dear. www.odan.org

You need Regnum Christi like you need another hole in the head regainnetwork.org

:bowdown:

Regnum Christi is not something to bother with IMHO - not unless and until it’s been thoroughly & totally decontaminated of every trace of Marcial Maciel and his works. Which if it happens at all, may not be for some time. If the Legion of Christ were suppressed, could RC survive ?​

Opus Dei maybe a bit extreme or old-fashioned in some of their penitential practices - but are they pernicious or corrupting ? I’ve been to that site, read it all, & still can’t decide. (They were keen on recruiting a friend some years ago - they didn’t get him.)

Scepticism about unfavourable notice of either or both of these is all very well, but the first allegations against Maciel were also greeted with scepticism; just as scepticism about other corrupt clerics was. Ignoring those who have unfavourable tales to tell is anything but wise or good.

 

[CSN]

I will say this - if you go onto youtube and look for Saint Josemaria Escriva’s talks in South America in the 70’s, you will see a gentle, witty and wise man (there are English subtitles).

Also, he is a saint recognized by the church.

 

[aea]

I’ve read a number of St. Josemaria’s works and find that they show excellent Christian spirit. The only concern about Opus Dei (and I’m not a member) was their history of cold showers. But alas, not everyone has taken a cold shower, and I think that practice may have been discarded. I know a numerary in Opus Dei and he is full of humor; Christ had a faith that was life-affirming, and I know my encounters with Opus Dei spirituality have cemented and reaffirmed my faith, not to mention make me more fun-loving, strong and self-disciplined.

I had more doubts about the KofC, but then again, that group (to which I belong) always moved my heart toward the direction the Church was facing. Most Catholic groups face skepticism at some point, some of it healthy, some of it not. But while I think the KofC suits me best when I find I have doubts about my faith, the affirmations of Opus Dei and its emphasis on regular confession and communion come at me when my faith is most unequivocal. Without doubt, you’ll never see when things are clear.

God bless Opus Dei, KofC

Al

 

[John_Russell_Jr]

My dear friends

I’m Opus Dei all the way. It’s great:thumbsup:

God bless all:thumbsup:

John

 

[fms]

The Founders:

The founder of Opus Dei is now:

Saint Josemaría Escrivá de Balaguer canonized October 6, 2002.

Excerpt from Vatican Statement on Fr. Marcial Maciel Degollado, founder of Legionaries of Christ and Regnum Christi:

The apostolic visit was able to confirm that the conduct of Fr. Marcial Maciel Degollado has caused such serious consequences in the life and structure of the Legion that a profound review is needed.

The extremely serious and objectively immoral behavior of Fr. Maciel, confirmed by incontrovertible testimonies, in some cases constituted real crimes, and manifest a life devoid of scruples and authentic religious sentiment. Most of the Legionaries were unaware of this life, above all because of the system of relationships constructed by Fr. Maciel, who skillfully created alibis, obtained trust, confidence, and silence from his entourage, and reinforced his own role as charismatic founder.

Not rarely, a deplorable discrediting and ostracism of those who doubted his upright behavior, as well as the mistaken conviction of not wanting to harm the good that the Legion was doing, had created around him a mechanism of defense that made him untouchable for a long time, thus making it rather difficult to find out the truth about his life.

If I were looking at both, I would follow the Judgment of the Church.

If Regnum Christi is from God, be sure it will survive and do a lot of good for God and his Church despite its founder.