Ordinariate for the Faithful Eastern Catholics in Spain

[MorEphrem]

I can’t make sense of the idea that “his reception of appointment is sufficient qualification”, did you mean something else?

Ah, sorry - very vague to anyone who can’t read my mind .

I specifically had in mind Brendan’s comment:

There is no need for singular qualification. He has Episcopal Orders and is legitimately appointed as the shepherd of the flock; that alone should be sufficient for any of the faithful in any sui juris Church

It would seem such a comment considers appointment the sole necessary qualification.

If you were the Pope then you would know the reasons, so unless Pope Francis reveals it, all is conjecture, which is what I presented, but based upon more than one article.

Yes and no. If Fr. Taft, SJ was appointed an exarch it wouldn’t be random (he’d at least have the qualification of familiarity). I have a handful of Spaniard friends (who share a similar sentiment with AXO) and it seems superficially the primary factor why he was selected was that he is the archbishop of the capital but I was hoping I was wrong.

 

[Vico]

Ah, sorry - very vague to anyone who can’t read my mind .

I specifically had in mind Brendan’s comment:

It would seem such a comment considers appointment the sole necessary qualification.

Yes and no. If Fr. Taft, SJ was appointed an exarch it wouldn’t be random (he’d at least have the qualification of familiarity). I have a handful of Spaniard friends (who share a similar sentiment with AXO) and it seems superficially the primary factor why he was selected was that he is the archbishop of the capital but I was hoping I was wrong.

It does not make sense to me because the act of appointment is not a quality or accomplishment that makes someone suitable for a particular job or activity.

 

[MorEphrem]

It does not make sense to me because the act of appointment is not a quality or accomplishment that makes someone suitable for a particular job or activity.

Yes, that was my point.

 

[Brendan]

Ah, sorry - very vague to anyone who can’t read my mind .

I specifically had in mind Brendan’s comment:

It would seem such a comment considers appointment the sole necessary qualification…

What qualifications did Simon Bar Jonah have to become Peter, other that he was appointed? Should the people of Alexandria have questioned how well Mark knew of the Egyptians before accepting him? Or the people of Persia question Thomas?

My point is, we are the sheep, they are the shepherds. What right do we have to ask for a C.V. before we accept them?

Do I expect any bishop appointed over me to be perfect, or to understand my spiritual needs? No, I expect him to do the best he can under the guidance of the Church

 

[MorEphrem]

What qualifications did Simon Bar Jonah have to become Peter, other that he was appointed? Should the people of Alexandria have questioned how well Mark knew of the Egyptians before accepting him? Or the people of Persia question Thomas?

My point is, we are the sheep, they are the shepherds. What right do we have to ask for a C.V. before we accept them?

Do I expect any bishop appointed over me to be perfect, or to understand my spiritual needs? No, I expect him to do the best he can under the guidance of the Church

When Jesus Christ selected the Apostles, that was the Omnipotent Creator of All making the selection. When the Apostles had to replace Judas and when Paul is advising the selection of deacons and bishops, they all had qualifications. Christ Himself instructs people to know the tree by the fruit it bears.

And yes, you clearly are unfamiliar with the [Syriac] Patristic traditions of the conversion of Persia, they did ask for a “CV” in a sense. You see, in the Syriac tradition the Apostle, Jude Thomas, has to prove to the people of Persia that he is actually from God before they even listen to him. His entire office is about the proofs he gives to them.