Ordo for traditional Breviary?

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Peace.

I have decided I need to move on from the Little Office of the BVM, and I was planning on saying Vespers with my Breviary tonight (which is well past now), but I was unable to do so because…I don’t really know how to say it:blush:!!!

I have been combing the internet up and down, and I cannot find an online Ordo on how to say the traditional breviary. If any of you can help me, it would be greatly appreciated!

Pax et bonum,
Joseph
 
Hi Jantoniello/Joseph

There are several sites who will even give you the texts for praying the breviary daily…unfortunately they aren’t free.

Here are several that are free:

rosaryshop.com/calendar.php

This next one will give you the daily coordinates for the breviary (make sure you get the little hand visible when you click on the date of the calendar).

poshusa.org/devotion-to-the-sacred-heart/american-ordo/cal/30

This one is good for background and filling in all the gaps:

ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDWGILH.HTM

God bless.
 
Thank you for your help. It was very appreciated.

Sadly, these are for the post-Conciliar Office, copies of which I do not own (but these sites will come in handy sooner or later!). I was looking for the Ordo of John XXIII’s Breviary.

Help still needed!

Pax et bonum,
Joseph
 
By “traditional Breviary”, do you mean that of John XXIII–1961 or so?

Or do you mean according to the rubrics of 1955?

Or previously to that?

There were major adjustments in the rubrics all along the way.
 
bpbasilphx said:
By “traditional Breviary”, do you mean that of John XXIII–1961 or so?

Or do you mean according to the rubrics of 1955?

Or previously to that?

There were major adjustments in the rubrics all along the way.
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lol You’re breaking balls dude.
 
I will go through a crash course on how to pray the pre-Conciliar breviary. I am assuming that you have the 1960 (1962) breviary.

Your breviary is comprised of five different sections:
-Proprium de Tempore (Proper of Seasons)
-Ordinarium (Ordinary)
-Psalterium (Psalter)
-Proprium Sanctorum (Proper of Saints)
-Commune Sanctorum (Common of Saints)

Lets do an easy day, a III class feast in the season after Pentecost. We will do Lauds of the next one in the calendar, August 4th - Saint Dominic.
  1. Always check the proper of saints first (unless you are in Lent, Easter, etc.). The proper of saints will give you the necessary information you will need to complete the day’s office. August 4th is a III class feast, and it states that we need to use psalms and antiphons from the current feria (day of the week), and that all else will be had from the Common of Confessors. Please note that all that is under St. Dominic is the prayer used at the end of the office.
  2. Go to the Ordinary. This is where you start your office. Follow the ordinary and it will tell you what to do. Do the introduction as directed by the ordinary.
  3. Go to the proper day of the week in the Psalter (in this case, Tuesday). Recite the psalms and antiphons (always ending each psalm with the Gloria Patri before the antiphon is recited a 2nd time).
  4. Go back to the ordinary. It says to do the little chapter, then hymn and verse, but nothing is listed! Go to the Common of Confessors, as the Proper of Saints directed you to do so. Recite the little chapter (capitulum), hymn and verse from the Common of Confessors.
  5. Go back to the ordinary. The Benedictus is next, but no antiphon is listed. Go back to the Common of Confessors, recite the proper Benedictus antiphon, and then recite the Benedictus from the ordinary, then the antiphon again (with Gloria Patri).
  6. Go back to the ordinary. What is next? Well, we are not in any special season, so we do not recite the Preces. All we have left is the prayer. Recite “O Lord hear my prayer…And let my cry come unto thee” and then recite the prayer from the Common of Saints (the only thing listed under St. Dominic).
  7. Go back to the ordinary for the conclusion. “O Lord hear my prayer…And let my cry come unto thee…”
The key to all of this is using the Proper of Saints and the Proper of Seasons. Those will guide you through the whole thing. Also, be familiar with your breviary, and know where the sections are that you need.

I highly recommend this book to guide you through the breviary:
cantius.org/go/webstore/product/learning_the_new_breviary/

Also, an Ordo will tell you what feast to celebrate on a given day, but it will not explain how to use your breviary. You want the book I posted above.

I hope this helps.
 
JMJ​

bpbasilphx…I was looking for the John XXIII rubrics from…65? Wasn’t that the last change before the LotH? Well, Harrison thank you for your help! That was exactly what I needed!

Thank you all!
Pax et bonum,
Joseph
 
My advice is to stick with the LOBVM for a few more months until the Baronius Press breviary comes out later this year. It’ll be worth the wait. And yes, I am convinced it’ll be ready this year providing the Imprimatur process doesn’t take long (which is out of their hands).
 
I own many versions of the Office:

Liturgy of the Hours (4 vol)

Christian Prayer

Shorter Christian Prayer

Lauds and Vespers (Latin/English)

Little Office of BVM (pre-concilliar) (Latin/English)

Little Office of BVM (post-concilliar)

I have also used some free online versions:

Divinum Officium

Universalis

Little Office of BVM

I’ve also tried multiple devotional series like:

In Conversation With God

Divine Intimacy

After trying each of these and trying to make them work in varying combinations, I’ve come to realize that you can get overwhelmed trying to take on too many devotions. You can also get things out of proportion if a devotion diverts you from fulfilling the demands of your state in life. You can also drive yourself crazy trying to find the perfect version of the Office. One version may be too complex, another too long, and still another too banal in its English wording. Latin can be nice, but if by itself, can be a barrier to prayer for those whose Latin is not strong. Latin/ Elizabethan English gives a good balance for me - sacred yet non-intimidating.

I’ve found that the best combination for me is to simply pray the Rosary daily (Latin or English). I may try to read* In Conversation With God* if I have a free moment, and (only if I want more prayer time) get in a couple of hours from the pre-VII Little Office of BVM. I then end the day with a chapter from the Gospels (Baronius Press New Testament DR) and Compline from the same LOBVM.

Again, the Rosary is the only devotion I bind myself to. Anything else is supplemental and optional. That allows me to have continuity and flexibility. Also, the Rosary is a calming prayer with many, many graces. It is also humbling in that anyone can pray it. I found myself being proud that I could pray the LotH, and that became a spiritual stumbling block for me.

So, for what it’s worth, that’s been my 10 year journey through devotionals. Everyone’s different.
 
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