This was no accident. We have several guns and you can be sure that they are secured. That boy would never have gotten our guns. I was thinking well I suppose someone could shoot off the lock but that person would already have had a gun in the first place. So, I can’t think of the boy getting a secured gun. Does anyone know about his mental condition? I have been trying to find more information but can’t.If he had stolen their locked car and had an accident due to reckless driving do you think the parents should be prosecuted for that also?
I believe the parents would be financially responsible in the case of a car accident. They might also be charged with negligence if it was determined that they had given him a set of keys (say he had a driver’s permit).If he had stolen their locked car and had an accident due to reckless driving do you think the parents should be prosecuted for that also?
You’ve changed the parameters. The kid stole locked guns from his parents. In no way can the parents be held criminally liable for his stealing the locked guns or the murder. In Oregon a parent can’t be held civilly liable for their children’s criminal acts.I believe the parents would be financially responsible in the case of a car accident. They might also be charged with negligence if it was determined that they had given him a set of keys (say he had a driver’s permit).
So yes, the parents could be prosecuted, either criminally or civilly.
I see that you are in Oregon. I am in AZ. I cannot find information on just how the guns were stored. You say they were locked away. Do you know what kind of locked storage it was? In the 60’s and 70’s my father-in-law had his guns stored and locked in a gun case, not a safe. It had a glass front and was like furniture to display his collection. We have two safes and bought the most secure safes that we could find. Also, do you know if this boy had a history of mental problems or anger issues? I can’t find this information after I tried since I heard of the shooting.You’ve changed the parameters. The kid stole locked guns from his parents. In no way can the parents be held criminally liable for his stealing the locked guns or the murder. In Oregon a parent can’t be held civilly liable for their children’s criminal acts.
So if your child steals your car, your insurance company doesn’t have to pay for damages? And they can’t raise your rates? And any victims of the accident cannot sue for medical or property damage?You’ve changed the parameters. The kid stole locked guns from his parents. In no way can the parents be held criminally liable for his stealing the locked guns or the murder. In Oregon a parent can’t be held civilly liable for their children’s criminal acts.
They have recourse against the criminal.So if your child steals your car, your insurance company doesn’t have to pay for damages? And they can’t raise your rates? And any victims of the accident cannot sue for medical or property damage?
If your child deliberately breaks your neighbor’s window you can refuse to pay for it and they have no recourse?
So a parent has no responsibility for their children’s actions?
Actually the parents are responsible for the minor but this is certainly getting off of the subject. I’m stll trying to learn how the boy got the guns.They have recourse against the criminal.
Maybe.This was no accident. We have several guns and you can be sure that they are secured. That boy would never have gotten our guns.
Now I’d like to know if the boy was known to have mental issues. We used to have a family member who has been suicidal. Her then husband would not keep a gun in the house even if locked in a safe. She didn’t spend enough time here to matter and never unsupervised.Maybe.
If they were using a full gun safe, with fireproof walls and bank vault type combo lock, you are probably correct.
If they were using a Stack-On type gun locker, then anyone with a drill and a few hours can get in.
But that Stack-On would still be considered by every jurisdiction that I am aware of, as having your guns secured.
How do you have your guns secured?This was no accident. We have several guns and you can be sure that they are secured. That boy would never have gotten our guns. I was thinking well I suppose someone could shoot off the lock but that person would already have had a gun in the first place. So, I can’t think of the boy getting a secured gun. Does anyone know about his mental condition? I have been trying to find more information but can’t.
annie