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[Alberti_Devoveo]

Following up on the thread and combining it with another:

I think we can agree (or at least become silent on this issue) that if a person belongs to an extremist group or a pro choice group then that person can legitimately receive the sacraments and we may (or may not) remind him of the error of his ways.

A person that is a Freemason cannot receive the sacrament (by decree from the Holy See).

Why arent we applying the same standards? I personally dont see why the Freemason cannot receive the Eucharist but a member of a hate group seems to be totally entitled to it.

I can see the Holy See not getting involved in every little groups right to exist but the USCCB hasnt even issued a policy statement on the issue.

Just wondering why.

Freemasonry is anti-Catholic and anti-Christian by nature. They maintain and profess the heretical “watch-maker” version of God, a la “The Supreme Architect of the Universe” of Calvin. It is for this reason that the Church forbids Freemasons from receiving the Eucharist.

Unless I am mistaken, hate groups & pro-life groups do not hold heretical positions, just morally wrong ones. No heresy, no need to ban them. However, as has been stated a few times in the thread, one should point out the morally erroneous position they hold in hopes of correcting their stance and their return to Fullness in the Church.

 

[ess1113]

Freemasonry is anti-Catholic and anti-Christian by nature. They maintain and profess the heretical “watch-maker” version of God, a la “The Supreme Architect of the Universe” of Calvin. It is for this reason that the Church forbids Freemasons from receiving the Eucharist.

Unless I am mistaken, hate groups & pro-life groups do not hold heretical positions, just morally wrong ones. No heresy, no need to ban them. However, as has been stated a few times in the thread, one should point out the morally erroneous position they hold in hopes of correcting their stance and their return to Fullness in the Church.

I find that to be a great consolation when the person sitting next to me will be holding desires to rid the world of all non-anglo people. Not much comfort in your view point.
But thanks for trying.

 

[Alberti_Devoveo]

I find that to be a great consolation when the person sitting next to me will be holding desires to rid the world of all non-anglo people. Not much comfort in your view point.
But thanks for trying.

My comment was not made in an effort to comfort you, but to explain to you the difference between a heretical group and a hate group that you seem to have not seen.

As has been suggested numerous times on the thread now, just talk to this person. Inform them that Jesus said, “This is my commandment, that you love one another, as I have loved you” (John 15:12) and that belonging and/or supporting a hate group does not comply with Jesus’ commandment.

 

[ess1113]

My comment was not made in an effort to comfort you, but to explain to you the difference between a heretical group and a hate group that you seem to have not seen.

As has been suggested numerous times on the thread now, just talk to this person. Inform them that Jesus said, “This is my commandment, that you love one another, as I have loved you” (John 15:12) and that belonging and/or supporting a hate group does not comply with Jesus’ commandment.

You probably should learn to recognize sarcasm when its directed at you.

I love knowing that I can remind the racist that they should love us all as they are burning crosses on the weekend and plotting the demise of an entire race of people, as they progress to receive communion along side all the rest of the parishoners.

I would prefer the fraternal groups that build hospitals, bill for no services, and treat children equally regardless of skin color. I can take communion easier knowing they are excluded from the sacraments.