Organizing a TLM society in your parish - tips?

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I’m looking into the possibility of getting an EF mass started at my parish. The deacon I spoke to thinks it’s a great idea, said he’d be willing to do it if the priest agreed, and will bring the issue up with the priest to give him some time to chew it over before I meet with him next week. If his response is favorable, I intend to start a TLM (traditional Latin mass) society at my parish to get the “stable group” of people necessary to justify the addition of a new Mass and to start the process of raising funds and awareness.

If anyone has any tips or links re: starting a TLM society and executing its mission, it would be much appreciated. Stories of your own experiences in this regard are welcome too.
 
Having a dedicated corps of boys or young men to serve is crucial. You may want to talk to families whose sons are already trained to see if they would be interesting in helping, then work to find more.

Find a priest who loves the old Mass and he will stick with it as long as his duties allow, even if attendence fluctuates. His love for it will be contagious, too and will encourage more boys to learn to serve.

PM me if you live in the Mid-Atlantic region; I know some people who know people.
 
Oh, and don’t advertise it as “Mass in the Extraordinary Form.” Seriously, in real life people don’t know what that means. Just write “Traditional Latin Mass: fulfills Sunday obligation.” 😉
 
I’m looking into the possibility of getting an EF mass started at my parish. The deacon I spoke to thinks it’s a great idea, said he’d be willing to do it if the priest agreed, and will bring the issue up with the priest to give him some time to chew it over before I meet with him next week. If his response is favorable, I intend to start a TLM (traditional Latin mass) society at my parish to get the “stable group” of people necessary to justify the addition of a new Mass and to start the process of raising funds and awareness.

If anyone has any tips or links re: starting a TLM society and executing its mission, it would be much appreciated. Stories of your own experiences in this regard are welcome too.
Actually remain/become an integral part of the parish! Don’t isolate yourselves from the rest of the parish. Separate yourselves from the rest of the parish and sooner or latter you’ll die. You might want to start referring to the Mass as the “EF Mass” like the Pope does.
 
Im curious , what is needed to try and get the Latin Mass going?

I know you need a group of people who will be consistent in going.
A priest who is 1) willing and 2) able to celebrate it.
Like another poster mentioned, a group of men/boys who will be willing to serve.

What about appropriate clothing for those who are serving? Im guessing that is needed? Does their robes have to be of a certain style? Im guessing that may be an initial cost?

What sort of obstacles can be expected to crop up while trying to get this off the ground?
 
If you will be having sung Masses, you will need some people who are able to chant or learn how to chant the propers and ordinary.

You will need someone who is aware of the different feast days and liturgical norms for the EF as they may be different from that of the OF.
 
Im curious , what is needed to try and get the Latin Mass going?

I know you need a group of people who will be consistent in going.
A priest who is 1) willing and 2) able to celebrate it.
Like another poster mentioned, a group of men/boys who will be willing to serve.

What about appropriate clothing for those who are serving? Im guessing that is needed? Does their robes have to be of a certain style? Im guessing that may be an initial cost?

What sort of obstacles can be expected to crop up while trying to get this off the ground?
Good questions!
 
Having a dedicated corps of boys or young men to serve is crucial. You may want to talk to families whose sons are already trained to see if they would be interesting in helping, then work to find more.
I’ve already volunteered to be trained as a server if needed, since I already know/can speak Latin with modest proficiency. I wonder what’s more difficult – teaching the altar servers Latin or training a new altar server?
Find a priest who loves the old Mass and he will stick with it as long as his duties allow, even if attendence fluctuates. His love for it will be contagious, too and will encourage more boys to learn to serve.
I’m working on it. I have my doubts about mine, but I don’t know him very well. On the one hand, he often complains about how inattentive and impious his congregation is. I’ve seen him scold the parish on Sunday masses after distribution of communion because many people left. I also know he’s said repeatedly he’d prefer to have a traditional style confessional, but that no one in the congregation is willing to take the initiative on it. On the other hand, his office is filled with books like the Rahner Reader and some other things he’s said makes me wonder if he doesn’t have some anti-traditionalist sympathies.

In any event, I’m hoping he’ll at least be open to it. I’m good enough at promoting things, and he’s concerned enough with parish finances, that I think it could, if nothing else, be a major cash cow for him. Only two parishes presently offer the EF mass in the entire diocese, and they’re both a 90 minute drive from here.
PM me if you live in the Mid-Atlantic region; I know some people who know people.
Sadly, not anymore; I used to live in Maryland, but now I’m in the diocese of Austin.
Oh, and don’t advertise it as “Mass in the Extraordinary Form.” Seriously, in real life people don’t know what that means. Just write “Traditional Latin Mass: fulfills Sunday obligation.” 😉
That’s useful; thanks. Maybe better to put “Traditional Latin Mass” where it’s going to be seen and understood (i.e., the parish bulletin) and “Extraordinary Form Mass” where it’s appropriate (i.e., the missallette covers).
Excellent!! Thanks!

I wonder… if the priest would be willing to have the mass said but isn’t willing to say it himself, if it would be possible to have a priest sent from an order or society with a TLM apostolate, e.g., the FSSP.
Actually remain/become an integral part of the parish! Don’t isolate yourselves from the rest of the parish. Separate yourselves from the rest of the parish and sooner or latter you’ll die. You might want to start referring to the Mass as the “EF Mass” like the Pope does.
No worries there. I don’t anticipate anything more than once a month, at least starting out. Maybe once a week if it’s popular, but even then, it would probably be Saturday morning or afternoon. My goal is to enrich the parish, not divide it.
If you will be having sung Masses, you will need some people who are able to chant or learn how to chant the propers and ordinary.
This is a major concern of mine. Our music ministry at this parish is not very strong as is. On special occasions they pull out the “big guns” but most of the time it’s so-so at best.

On the other hand, there’s a parish down the road about 30 minutes that has an excellent music ministry. Really beautiful voices and an extremely competent director. I wonder if I could recruit them. 😃
 
Im curious , what is needed to try and get the Latin Mass going?

I know you need a group of people who will be consistent in going.
A priest who is 1) willing and 2) able to celebrate it.
Like another poster mentioned, a group of men/boys who will be willing to serve.

What about appropriate clothing for those who are serving? Im guessing that is needed? Does their robes have to be of a certain style? Im guessing that may be an initial cost?

What sort of obstacles can be expected to crop up while trying to get this off the ground?
Assuming you get all the things you mention in your second paragraph, you would need at the very least some additional vestments and an appropriate Missal and Gradual. The priest would need a maniple. If a solemn high mass is done, the deacon would also need a maniple as well as a dalmatic, and the subdeacon would need the same vestments (maniple omitted if a “straw subdeacon” is used). In general, modern vestments suffice, but it may be fitting to go with more ornate and majestic vestments; the modern chasuble tends to be very austere. If you’re getting new maniples, it might be fitting to get a new chasuble as well, since they’re supposed to match (I think; I dunno if that’s required or just a fashion thing!).

Training of the priest in rubrics and, if necessary, Latin might be expensive. He would maybe need to go to some workshops or at least get some instructional DVDs. If a solemn high mass is to be performed, a Gregorian schola would need to be trained, which would be more expense.

Obstacles, I dunno. That’s why I started the thread… other people’s experiences would be very informative here!
 
Assuming you get all the things you mention in your second paragraph, you would need at the very least some additional vestments and an appropriate Missal and Gradual. The priest would need a maniple. If a solemn high mass is done, the deacon would also need a maniple as well as a dalmatic, and the subdeacon would need the same vestments (maniple omitted if a “straw subdeacon” is used). In general, modern vestments suffice, but it may be fitting to go with more ornate and majestic vestments; the modern chasuble tends to be very austere. If you’re getting new maniples, it might be fitting to get a new chasuble as well, since they’re supposed to match (I think; I dunno if that’s required or just a fashion thing!).

Training of the priest in rubrics and, if necessary, Latin might be expensive. He would maybe need to go to some workshops or at least get some instructional DVDs. If a solemn high mass is to be performed, a Gregorian schola would need to be trained, which would be more expense.

Obstacles, I dunno. That’s why I started the thread… other people’s experiences would be very informative here!
I wonder if all of those " i’s dotted and t’s crossed" would have to be in place before hand?

It’s a good thread, SW. Thanks for starting it. 🙂
 
We started with a once a month Dominican low Mass. This lasted almost 3 years until the Dominican priest was transfered elsewhere. I asked our local pastor if would help us find a priest for the TLM and he agreed. In fact he found two who decided to alternate on a monthly basis. That was just over a year ago. So now we are preparing to request another Mass. This time First Fridays.

Over the four years that our group has been around, we have gotten all our own vestments and have a complete set of Altar hardware (candlesticks, crucifix, patens, bells, cruets).

Our first vestment sets were VERY used and now we are slowly replacing them with new ones from a maker in Poland. Reasonably priced too.

We make our own Altar frontals and share them with the OF Mass folks. In fact they use our Altar candlesticks and cruet set because they are “prettier” than the plain ones they used to use.

Thats OK with us. 👍 😃
 
Assuming you get all the things you mention in your second paragraph, you would need at the very least some additional vestments and an appropriate Missal and Gradual. The priest would need a maniple. If a solemn high mass is done, the deacon would also need a maniple as well as a dalmatic, and the subdeacon would need the same vestments (maniple omitted if a “straw subdeacon” is used). In general, modern vestments suffice, but it may be fitting to go with more ornate and majestic vestments; the modern chasuble tends to be very austere. If you’re getting new maniples, it might be fitting to get a new chasuble as well, since they’re supposed to match (I think; I dunno if that’s required or just a fashion thing!).

Training of the priest in rubrics and, if necessary, Latin might be expensive. He would maybe need to go to some workshops or at least get some instructional DVDs. If a solemn high mass is to be performed, a Gregorian schola would need to be trained, which would be more expense.

Obstacles, I dunno. That’s why I started the thread… other people’s experiences would be very informative here!
“Modern vestments” pre-date the fiddlebacks.
 
Old Gothic vestments look nothing like the gigantic sleeping bags that pass for them nowadays.
They look a heckuva lot better than those funny bulletproof vests that they wore for a comparatively short time in history. They also remind me of those x-ray shields they use at the dentists.
 
They look a heckuva lot better than those funny bulletproof vests that they wore for a comparatively short time in history. They also remind me of those x-ray shields they use at the dentists.
They remind me, in a most macabre way, of a butcher’s apron. I think they have wonderful sacrificial symbolism. For the record, I’m not sure we can use the “it’s more ancient” argument on its own to legitimately argue the value of something.
 
They remind me, in a most macabre way, of a butcher’s apron. I think they have wonderful sacrificial symbolism. For the record, I’m not sure we can use the “it’s more ancient” argument on its own to legitimately argue the value of something.
The only reason they have such a horrid shape is because the Roman chasuble because they became too heavy and hot from the ornate fabric used.
 
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