Original and True DR Bible OR RSV-CE OR Both?

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Bible_Reader said:
Not to make too fine a point of it, but you’ve described a diglot. An interlinear intersperses two languages line-by-line (or more usually, phrase-by-phrase or word-by-word)
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And yet the books tend be titled as interlinear bibles anyway. I guess the publishers and marketers don’t care much about nitpicky etymology. 🙂
 
Bible_Reader said:
I have the Baronius edition, and can strongly recommend it on the basis of text block, which is newly typeset and very easy to read. The Bible maps, engravings, and encyclicals are also nice additions to the Baronius edition.

The Tan edition is a photographic reproduction of a much older copy and has many smudges and inferior binding. It is also currently out of print at the publisher, although some retailers still have it in stock

I own the Baronius hardcover black leather edition, standard size (I have a special loathing for bonded leather) and find it to be a well-produced book. I cannot speak to the quality of the binding on the bonded leather edition (I have a special loathing for bonded leather and I’ve also heard some negative feedback from others – but I have no personal experience with the Baronius bonded leather).

Here is a sample page in the Baronius edition; as you can see, the typesetting is first-rate. Here is a detailed description of the Baronius edition including information on maps, engravings, and included encyclicals.

Here is a listing of all Baronius Douay-Rheims-Challoner editions.

You can buy these volumes directly from Baronius Press, or from most other Catholic booksellers. There are also large sizes available if your eyesight is poor, and pocket sizes if you require them.
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Would you reccommend the hardcover Baronius DR? I bought the flexible one back in 2006 and was not terribly impressed with it.

Got a hold of the Tan/Loreto hardcover and it’s terrible, an awful reprint. I may get hold of the Baronius Hardcover if it comes reccommended. I think it would look nicer on my shelf and feel better in my hand, their flex leather one is just disappointing and frankly feels cheap and false to me.
 
Mattjolley –

I do have the hardcover/leather Baronius, and it is one of the nicest books (in terms of binding and book quality) that I own. I think the page block contents are the same between the bonded leather and hardcover editions, so you can form your own opinion – I think that in terms of print quality, paper, and extras, the Baronius is both the nicest Douay-Rheims-Challoner I have seen and among the top 10% of all Bibles I have seen of any sort.

So yes – I strongly recommend the hardcover Baronius for those who want a Douay-Rheims-Challoner.
 
I own the pocket one too, and have to admit that several of the map pages fell out after about a month, and that was without constant reading, so I’m a little weary of Baronius.

Also my copy of their 1962 missal had pages missing, so they sent me a free replacement which was kind of them.

And also since my flex edition was so disappointing, (shoddy and cheap feeling, certainly not real leather!) I’d hope theyve improved over the last 3 years! So may get a hardcover DR after all.

I bought another pocket one, and the cover has improved, but it is more like my flex one, so I’l have to hope the hardcover is of better quality and they have imroved their craft after 3 years.
 
Oh my goodness – your pocket edition must have had a glued binding. My hardcover has a Smyth-sewn binding, so pages falling out is not a problem.
 
Bible_Reader said:
Mattjolley –

I do have the hardcover/leather Baronius, and it is one of the nicest books (in terms of binding and book quality) that I own. I think the page block contents are the same between the bonded leather and hardcover editions, so you can form your own opinion – I think that in terms of print quality, paper, and extras, the Baronius is both the nicest Douay-Rheims-Challoner I have seen and among the top 10% of all Bibles I have seen of any sort.

So yes – I strongly recommend the hardcover Baronius for those who want a Douay-Rheims-Challoner.
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From what I hear around here, I made a good choice when I bought my hardcover/leather Baronius…I did so, on the basis of having that type binding on my Jerusalem Bible (which kinda sits there, lonely & forgotten,under my DR (Challoner), & the RSV-CE. (The latter is bonded leather, and so far, so good…but I wouldn’t, for example, take it with me to read on a “soft” day…)
 
I, I like my HOLY BIBLE NRSV CATHOLIC EDITION very very much!
it’s so beautiful and elegant.
though I have the RSV-CE, the NRSV, the NAB, the Jerusalem Bible, the New Jerusalem Bible, the Good News Bible.
but I think maybe the best vision of Bible is original Hebrew Bible. 11th century manuscript of the Hebrew Bible with Aramaic
 
it’s a really good translation. I like the DR Bible because it’s a translation of a translation that had access to original and complete manuscripts
Actually, St. Jerome did NOT have access to the original mss of the Bible, because they didn’t even exist in his day.

All translations have their advantages and disadvantages.

Tradutore, traditore (a translator is a traitor) applies to the Bible as well.
 
roselily said:
I think maybe the best vision of Bible is original Hebrew Bible. 11th century manuscript of the Hebrew Bible with Aramaic
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You can buy a high quality facsimile edition of the Leningrad Codex at a reasonable price (for facsimiles – less than $200); see here. I find it useful for my study.
 
Bible_Reader said:
Mattjolley –

I do have the hardcover/leather Baronius, and it is one of the nicest books (in terms of binding and book quality) that I own. I think the page block contents are the same between the bonded leather and hardcover editions, so you can form your own opinion – I think that in terms of print quality, paper, and extras, the Baronius is both the nicest Douay-Rheims-Challoner I have seen and among the top 10% of all Bibles I have seen of any sort.

So yes – I strongly recommend the hardcover Baronius for those who want a Douay-Rheims-Challoner.
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Hardcover it is. I’m convinced 👍

I finally received my Oxford RSV-CE edition, and the bonded leather isn’t so nice 😦 I love the translation, but the “leather” is really stiff and not so nice to read in bed… oh well, at least I’m satisfied with the translation (I think way better than the NRSV I have, IMHO). Was never really much into thumb tabs, but seems okay so far.
 
The shortage of high quality leather bindings in Catholic editions is a real problem if you like soft leather:

Many people think R. L. Allan has the best binding, but it publishes no Catholic editions (the closest it has is the NRSV without Deuterocanons).

Cambridge publishes some nice leather binding Bibles, but its only Catholic edition is the NRSV “with Apocrypha” and that does not come in its top quality goatskin leather.

Tim summarizes the situation here and basically, other than above-mentioned Cambridge, you probably are best off having your favorite Bible rebound. If you do this, be sure to get a sewn rather than a glued binding.

There are many, many, many articles on Bible rebinding on Mark Bertrand’s blog. Bottom line: if you want a nice job, expect to pay $150-$300 for the rebinding (plus, of course, the cost of the Bible) – and all rebindings are compromises.
 
Bible_Reader said:
You can buy a high quality facsimile edition of the Leningrad Codex at a reasonable price (for facsimiles – less than $200); see here. I find it useful for my study.
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Oh, Bible Reader, 🙂
I just want tell you Thank you very, very much!
 
Bible_Reader said:
The shortage of high quality leather bindings in Catholic editions is a real problem if you like soft leather:

Many people think R. L. Allan has the best binding, but it publishes no Catholic editions (the closest it has is the NRSV without Deuterocanons).

Cambridge publishes some nice leather binding Bibles, but its only Catholic edition is the NRSV “with Apocrypha” and that does not come in its top quality goatskin leather.

Tim summarizes the situation here and basically, other than above-mentioned Cambridge, you probably are best off having your favorite Bible rebound. If you do this, be sure to get a sewn rather than a glued binding.

There are many, many, many articles on Bible rebinding on Mark Bertrand’s blog. Bottom line: if you want a nice job, expect to pay $150-$300 for the rebinding (plus, of course, the cost of the Bible) – and all rebindings are compromises.
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I agree. There are many excellent reasons for getting a good Bible (with a sound sewn binding) and having an expert binder redo or restore the Bible. I’m not a big fan of limp leather bindings though, especially the variety with semi-yapp overhanging edges. It is not really an heirloom binding that will hold up for generations the way a good solid leather over boards binding would be. But that’s a matter of personal taste. 😉
 
selylidne said:
If you enjoy the occasional bit of serious study, don’t dismiss the possibility of getting a copy in the original languages. Yes, scholars spend lifetimes arguing about the nitpicky details of the original wordings, but remember that much of it was written to be read aloud to ordinary people, and it can be picked up surprisingly easily (although not effortlessly, of course). A wonderful halfway step is an interlinear bible, which usually has the left page in Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, or even Latin, and the right page in English.
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Could you possibly tell me where I could get ahold of something like that in Greek and English?? That would be beyond awesome!

I didn’t even know they made them like that… 👍
 
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