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Giggly_Giraffe
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What are the countries with the greatest number of orphan’s?
What are the pro’s & con’s of both Foster Care & Orpahnages?
What are the pro’s & con’s of both Foster Care & Orpahnages?
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PaulfromIowa
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I don’t know the answer to the first question. In answer to the second: Children are better off in a family setting than in an institutional setting. In emergency situations, ‘3 hots and a cot’ may be all that society can provide; but children need parents/role models.
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Chrish1975
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Foster care is a lot more expensive then an orphanage. A child raised in an orphanage is more likely to not form close human relationships as an adult.What are the countries with the greatest number of orphan’s?
What are the pro’s & con’s of both Foster Care & Orpahnages?
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Daizies
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Not necessarily true from the people I know who went through foster care. With what they went through, an orphanage may have been preferable…A child raised in an orphanage is more likely to not form close human relationships as an adult.
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Giggly_Giraffe
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Some pro’s of an orphanage that I see is tha it can accommodate a large increase of orphans from a situation like a plague, or war. Additionally, children do find peer’s In the same situation comforting. Con’s is that the child may feel rejected in the adoption process; or like a doggie at a pet store.
Some pro’s to the foster care is the one-on-one attention from an adult. Also, specialized pairing for children of abuse is also more readily available. Con’s is multiple foster parents could confuse the child greater than a group orphanage.
Some pro’s to the foster care is the one-on-one attention from an adult. Also, specialized pairing for children of abuse is also more readily available. Con’s is multiple foster parents could confuse the child greater than a group orphanage.
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lerapt78
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Not sure on your first question, but I’ve heard that the ex-Soviet states have very large numbers of orphanages.
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ringil
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Gosh, this is a tough one.
I believe in foster care- with more stringent requirements as, unfortunately, a small percentage do this to make an income.
I also believe that social science has learned so much sense the days of orphanages or old that maybe we could give it a go.
I say this as my mother grew p in a Catholic orphanage, and though not perfect, did a pretty good job. My mother remembers her time there fondly.
I believe in foster care- with more stringent requirements as, unfortunately, a small percentage do this to make an income.
I also believe that social science has learned so much sense the days of orphanages or old that maybe we could give it a go.
I say this as my mother grew p in a Catholic orphanage, and though not perfect, did a pretty good job. My mother remembers her time there fondly.
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SamH
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How is it more expensive?Foster care is a lot more expensive then an orphanage. A child raised in an orphanage is more likely to not form close human relationships as an adult.
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SamH
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Multiple foster parents are usually the result of a child being pulled from the family “home” multiple times. Usually a case of the state wanting to “reunite” the family at the expense of the children involved. We had a six year old boy that was in foster care 5 times in his life - returned to his mother 4 times. They finally quit sending him home when her boyfriend raped him and left him using a colostomy bag. They didn’t think it was right charge the mother or boyfriend with a crime though.Some pro’s to the foster care is the one-on-one attention from an adult. Also, specialized pairing for children of abuse is also more readily available. Con’s is multiple foster parents could confuse the child greater than a group orphanage.
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Ridgerunner
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Years ago, I worked in one of the last Catholic orphanages in a major city. It was run by a priest, who saw to the spiritual welfare of the boys there. His mother lived there and served as a surrogate mother for the boys and, from what I understood, really did care for them until she got so old she really couldn’t.Not necessarily true from the people I know who went through foster care. With what they went through, an orphanage may have been preferable…
Also living there were some of the “former boys” who were young adults, but who were going to school or were in the service. The young boys were very attached to those guys, who were, in effect, “big brothers” and role models to them.
The “orphans” weren’t all true orphans. Some were, but many had been abandoned by parents, or were sent there as neglected. Some were actually placed there by their parents who simply couldn’t take care of them. Now and then, a parent or two would visit, but not often. One young man’s mother lived in a really horrific housing project, and he used to go visit her quite often. But she wanted him in the orphanage for his own good, and he bore her no ill will for it, because he knew he was better off there. One night, returning from the project, he was held up at gunpoint for his shirt and shoes, which tells one a lot about that project.
The food was good. They had their own summer camp. I was a student myself at the time and my job and that of others like me, was to supervise the boys; get them up in the morning, make sure they studied, did “lights out”, didn’t misbehave. Yes, now and then, we walked one up and down the hall when he had gone out and gotten drunk, to sober him up. And we did talk to them quite a bit about their lives and their ambitions.
They all went to Catholic schools.
Some of the boys had been in foster care. Some of the experiences they related were fairly good. Some were really bad. On the whole, and based on what I know of foster care, I would favor the orphanage situation if it could be like what I saw of it.
But due to contraception and abortion, along with the state wanting the “clients” for foster care, the numbers dwindled and the orphanage closed.
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fakename
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I like foster care better than orphanages since I suspect that the latter pimps out kids for illegal prostitution. Foster care though, ought to be limited to immediate family (ceteris paribus) since one can hardly trust genetic strangers to practically uphold a child’s welfare -for we see in nature how stepfathers constantly “off” the children of previous fathers.
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hannajomar
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Girard College seems to be an effective model. From the link:
My grandfather lived there from when he was age 8. Shortly before he entered, his father died, and his mother, who lived close by sent him there. In those days, she had to sign over all parental rights to the school, which I imagine was a heartbreaking decision for her. But he had such fond memories of this place, and the boys really became like brothers. At my grandfather’s funeral, his last 4 living classmates came. At the luncheon they asked if they could sing their alma mater. Seeing their love for this place, there was not a dry eye in the house. Also, he told me that during WWII he had joined the Navy and was receiving his physical. The dentist looked in his mouth and said, “Did you go to Girard College?” He told my grandfather that he could tell because his teeth were in such good shape and had been taken care of. All their temporal needs were taken care of. And there seemed to be the philosophy of preparing these boys to succeed in adulthood, by teaching them manners, discipline, structure, education, and trades.
Of course, this can happen when there is a lot of money to run such a program. Here’s a history of the place: girardcollege.edu/page.cfm?p=359
(Children of all races, and girls are now welcomed as well.)“Girard College was formed by an unprecedented act of American philanthropy. The school was constructed and endowed from the fortune of Stephen Girard (1750 - 1831), a French immigrant who was probably the richest man in America at the time of his death. The money he left to create Girard College was the largest private charitable donation up to that time in American history.
Girard directed the city to use his enormous gift to build a school for poor, orphan or fatherless, white boys who would live on campus. His vision was unique in reaching an entirely unserved population and preparing them for useful, productive lives.”
My grandfather lived there from when he was age 8. Shortly before he entered, his father died, and his mother, who lived close by sent him there. In those days, she had to sign over all parental rights to the school, which I imagine was a heartbreaking decision for her. But he had such fond memories of this place, and the boys really became like brothers. At my grandfather’s funeral, his last 4 living classmates came. At the luncheon they asked if they could sing their alma mater. Seeing their love for this place, there was not a dry eye in the house. Also, he told me that during WWII he had joined the Navy and was receiving his physical. The dentist looked in his mouth and said, “Did you go to Girard College?” He told my grandfather that he could tell because his teeth were in such good shape and had been taken care of. All their temporal needs were taken care of. And there seemed to be the philosophy of preparing these boys to succeed in adulthood, by teaching them manners, discipline, structure, education, and trades.
Of course, this can happen when there is a lot of money to run such a program. Here’s a history of the place: girardcollege.edu/page.cfm?p=359
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