Orthodox Church have ecumunical Councils?

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I did not mention juridstiction, I said a Supreme Bishop. It is relevant to if they have authority over other Bishops, because unless there is someone that has authority over other Bishops, in other words a Supreme Bishop, that accepts the Ecumenical Council, there is no logical way for the Council to have authority over other Bishops.
That is simply not true. The Orthodox do not have a “supreme bishop,” yet the bishops in council do have authority over individual bishops. Just because it doesn’t fit your ecclesiology doesn’t equate with there is “no logical way” for it to be the case.
 
I believe that’s because that the Pope acknowledges them Councils.

I did not mention juridstiction, I said a Supreme Bishop. It is relevant to if they have authority over other Bishops, because unless there is someone that has authority over other Bishops, in other words a Supreme Bishop, that accepts the Ecumenical Council, there is no logical way for the Council to have authority over other Bishops.
Sure there is, there is a common understanding, unity in faith and conviction. The Eastern Catholic Churches have self-governing Synods; there need not necessarily be a super-bishop just a Primacy or Episcopal Chairman to regulate the procedures. Although, there are instances of Supreme Synodal authority, as well as Patriarchal/Catholical authority.
 
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In the past, was it not the case that an “Ecumenical” council had to be called by the emperor? And there haven’t been too many Orthodox emperors lately, I think…:).
 
That is simply not true. The Orthodox do not have a “supreme bishop,” yet the bishops in council do have authority over individual bishops. Just because it doesn’t fit your ecclesiology doesn’t equate with there is “no logical way” for it to be the case.
I know that’s how their Church runs, but I don’t see the logical way it could have authority over the individual Bishops if they have no Supreme Bishop.

I’m talking about whether they have such authority from God not about whether they operate a certain way, I already know about their synods etc…
 
Sure there is, there is a common understanding, unity in faith and conviction. The Eastern Catholic Churches have self-governing Synods; there need not necessarily be a super-bishop just a Primacy or Episcopal Chairman to regulate the procedures. Although, there are instances of Supreme Synodal authority, as well as Patriarchal/Catholical authority.
If Bishop X has authority from God by Divine Right, Bishops ABC and Z can not come together and outpower Bishop X, unless there is a Bishop above X by Divine Right that gives Bishops ABC and Z the authority to.
 
I know that’s how their Church runs, but I don’t see the logical way it could have authority over the individual Bishops if they have no Supreme Bishop.

I’m talking about whether they have such authority from God not about whether they operate a certain way, I already know about their synods etc…
Then what’s the point of having councils? Why not just have the “Supreme Bishop” do it all?
 
Then what’s the point of having councils? Why not just have the “Supreme Bishop” do it all?
It’s a lot of work you could say 🙂 the Roman Pontiff is free to have Councils and acknowledge Councils.

You’d probably be best asking the Supreme Bishop
 
If Bishop X has authority from God by Divine Right, Bishops ABC and Z can not come together and outpower Bishop X, unless there is a Bishop above X by Divine Right that gives Bishops ABC and Z the authority to.
The Orthodox believe that the bishops in council have authority from God. Otherwise, they would not hold that an individual bishop is bound by the decisions of a council of bishops.
 
The Orthodox believe that the bishops in council have authority from God. Otherwise, they would not hold that an individual bishop is bound by the decisions of a council of bishops.
That’s obvious
 
Can EO posters here really say with a straight face that no significant heresy has cropped up in the last thousand years or so that warranted an ecumenical council? Seems like a rather, err, bold claim to me…
What new heresies did you have in mind?
 
Can EO posters here really say with a straight face that no significant heresy has cropped up in the last thousand years or so that warranted an ecumenical council? Seems like a rather, err, bold claim to me…
Well yes, we can, because the heresies which appeared since iconoclasm have all been local problems which were solved by local synods, instead of problems threatening the peace of the entire oecumene. We have since Second Nicaea condemned many heresies but have had no need to convene an ecumenical council to do so, as the issues were all sufficiently resolved in local synods.
 
Well yes, we can, because the heresies which appeared since iconoclasm have all been local problems which were solved by local synods, instead of problems threatening the peace of the entire oecumene. We have since Second Nicaea condemned many heresies but have had no need to convene an ecumenical council to do so, as the issues were all sufficiently resolved in local synods.
Is the Synod that is to be held beginning next year going to be considered on the same level as Nicea II, or will it be considered more along the lines of a local council?
 
The Ecumenical councils that everyone accepts dealt with very important Christian dogma.
Like the Holy Trinity, who is Jesus and what is his nature. The counsels quashed heresies like Nestorianism, Arianism, and iconoclasm. The things that make Christians Christians.

They did not deal with modern heresies like the ‘rapture’ and such.

In my opinion there can be no more Ecumenical counsels, since the church has been divided a thousand years. When the church is reunited (I’m optimistic) there can be true ecumenical counsels. I still feel like only one half of the church can not go off by themselves, have a Counsel and legitmately call it ecumenical.
 
In my opinion there can be no more Ecumenical counsels, since the church has been divided a thousand years.
In my opinion there can be and in my opinion it can’t be divided for “a kingdom cannot be divided against itself”. I believe someone is part of it by being in full communion with the Pope and leaves it by seperating from him.
 
In my opinion there can be and in my opinion it can’t be divided for “a kingdom cannot be divided against itself”. I believe someone is part of it by being in full communion with the Pope and leaves it by seperating from him.
Yes I know that is your opinion. I just (as a peer) disagree.
 
That is simply not true. The Orthodox do not have a “supreme bishop,” yet the bishops in council do have authority over individual bishops. Just because it doesn’t fit your ecclesiology doesn’t equate with there is “no logical way” for it to be the case.
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Is the Synod that is to be held beginning next year going to be considered on the same level as Nicea II, or will it be considered more along the lines of a local council?
It is currently being called a Pan-Orthodox council, which would put it around the same level as the Pan-Orthodox synod held in Jerusalem in the 17th century. The actual agenda is non-dogmatic, which is a signal that this council might turn out to be one like Trullo, a council convened solely to address administrative issues in the Church at that time.
 
I disagree:

In exercising supreme, full, and immediate power in the universal Church, the Roman pontiff makes use of the departments of the Roman Curia which, therefore, perform their duties in his name and with his authority for the good of the churches and in the service of the sacred pastors.

CHRISTUS DOMINUS, 9
Just a reminder that although the pope is head of visible church, every other bishop has the God given authority to lead his diocese, i.e., bishops are successors to the apostles in their own right:
Each individual bishop has his own authority to run the diocese. He’s not an ambassador of the pope but governs the local diocese as an authentic successor of the apostles, just as the pope governs the universal Church as the successor of St. Peter.
dummies.com/how-to/content/the-role-of-catholic-bishops-and-archbishops.html
 
Can EO posters here really say with a straight face that no significant heresy has cropped up in the last thousand years or so that warranted an ecumenical council? Seems like a rather, err, bold claim to me…
Ecumenism and phyletism (as certain Catholics never tire of pointing out) have been taken to the point of heresy quite recently, both of which we have been able to deal with without Ecumenical Councils due to a general agreement on how to handle them. And there was the condemnation of Calvinism, although that heresy wasn’t something that was affecting the Orthodox Church, at the Council of Jerusalem (held to be ecumenical by some). Other than that, no
 
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