Orthodox in Communinion with Rome

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Hi everyone…
What is “Orthodox in Communion with Rome”?
Is this the same as the Zoghby Initiative?
How does Rome see this?
How does Constantinople see this?

PS, for those who remember my vocation post waaaay back when, I think I am going to join HRM.
Prayers please.
 
I always thought it was another term for Eastern Catholicism. Correct me if I’m wrong?
 
I have heard this. I still don’t kow what Im talking about with much of this stuff…
I personally would like to style my self as Orthodox in Communion with Rome, if it is okay with Rome
 
John_of_Patmos said:
I have heard this. I still don’t kow what Im talking about with much of this stuff…
I personally would like to style my self as Orthodox in Communion with Rome, if it is okay with Rome
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It was Rome’s idea, really. They want Eastern Catholics to be everything the Orthodox are, with that one clause that they should be in communion with Rome. So praxis, traditions, theology, etc. should be in line with what the Orthodox counterpart of every sui juris Church is doing.
 
ConstantineTG said:
It was Rome’s idea, really. They want Eastern Catholics to be everything the Orthodox are, with that one clause that they should be in communion with Rome. So praxis, traditions, theology, etc. should be in line with what the Orthodox counterpart of every sui juris Church is doing.
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Except in areas that it contradicts Roman dogma, correct?
 
John_of_Patmos said:
Hi everyone…
What is “Orthodox in Communion with Rome”?
Is this the same as the Zoghby Initiative?
How does Rome see this?
How does Constantinople see this?
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Our parish has as part of our Mission statement
As an Eastern Catholic Community, it has the additional mission of being a witness of the living reality of Byzantine Orthodox Christianity in full communion with the Bishop of Rome (Pontiff/Pope of the Catholic Church). This particular mission has been reiterated in the Second Vatican Council’s, “Orientalium Ecclesiarum” (Decree on the Catholic Churches of the Eastern Rite) and the Apostolic Letter of John Paul II, “Orientale Lumen” (Light of the East).
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PS, for those who remember my vocation post waaaay back when, I think I am going to join HRM.
Prayers please.
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Fantastic!!! 👍 Do you have your thermal underwear ready? 😃
 
dcointin said:
I would imagine also the Immaculate Conception. I read others saying they had to use Catholic bibles/canon in liturgy as well.
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Thats the thing, we don’t see any conflict with the Immaculate Conception with what the East believes. We see that how the West defines it is based on how their theology on the effects of the Fall is. We do profess Mary to be pure and immaculate and ever-virgin. There is no conflict with the IC doma with that.

We also get to celebrate the feast as it is. Its kind of a double celebration for us in fact. We do commemorate that December 8 is the Immaculate Conception, and still celebrate the conception of the Theotokos by St. Anne on December 9.
 
dcointin said:
I would imagine also the Immaculate Conception.
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Is there some Orthodox communion that believes that Mary The Holy Theotokos was not conceived pure, immaculate and ever-virgin?
I read others saying they had to use Catholic bibles/canon in liturgy as well.
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The Holy See does not expect Eastern Catholics or Orthodox to use anything but our traditional Liturgies and translations.
 
Ignatius said:
The Holy See does not expect Eastern Catholics or Orthodox to use anything but our traditional Liturgies and translations.
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Is there any reading that is based upon books that is not in the Western Canon?
 
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ConstantineTG said:
In any Great Compline? I would check our books.
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I believe so. Check out this link from the Metropolitan Cantor Institute of the Byzantine Catholic Archeparchy of Pittsburgh which details the structure of the Great Compline. The Prayer of Manasseh (or Manasses) is said after Psalms 50 and 101.
 
John_of_Patmos said:
Hi everyone…
What is “Orthodox in Communion with Rome”?
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A misnomer.
John_of_Patmos said:
Is this the same as the Zoghby Initiative?
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The Zoghby Inititiative (which I have always admired) has been rejected by both Rome and the Orthodox.
John_of_Patmos said:
How does Rome see this?
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I think they like the term, but probably do not like what some people are trying to make out of it.
John_of_Patmos said:
How does Constantinople see this?
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From the Orthodox perspective there is no such thing as Orthodox in Communion with Rome. No one who decides to be in communion with Rome in these days and times can be Orthodox. Perhaps if Rome changed …

It seems to me, from my observation many Roman Catholics who admire Holy Orthodoxy and want to be Orthodox, but perhaps are afraid to leave communion with Rome or perhaps believe that their staying will somehow contribute to progress in the work of the Holy Spirit in reforming (and improving) the Papal communion. If the latter is their idea I am all for it.
 
Hesychios said:
Your parish does both? :confused:
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Well, December 8th isn’t regarded as a Feast Day the way December 9 does, but when I attended on the 8th in 2010, I remember the bishop mentioning it was the feast of the Immaculate Conception.

Hey, we’re friendly to RC feasts. We also have the Feast Day of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. We call the Sacred Heart, “Christ the lover of humankind” and have the Sacred Heart icon. We hold a Moleben and there’s nothing Roman Catholic about the celebration (no exposition of the Blessed Sacrament as is in the RC Church).

In fact our synod allows us to move the Conception of the Theotokos by St. Anne to December 8 in North America so we can celebrate in unity with the Roman Catholics.
 
John_of_Patmos said:
Hi everyone…
What is “Orthodox in Communion with Rome”?
Is this the same as the Zoghby Initiative?
How does Rome see this?
How does Constantinople see this?

PS, for those who remember my vocation post waaaay back when, I think I am going to join HRM.
Prayers please.
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I will pray for your vocation. You can see for yourself what HRM says about being Orthodox in Communion with Rome. youtube.com/watch?v=sT0m9N_Kkmg
 
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