Orthodoxy on divorce and annulments

[roncriss]

A hypocrite, hunting after the glory that comes from an apparent righteousness, is untroubled so long as he thinks that he escapes notice. But when he is detected, he utters streams of imprecation, imagining that by abusing others he can hide his own deformity.
St. Maximos the Confessor (First Century on Theology no. 23)

Now, Mickey, I know you have gone crying to the Moderator that I have been making “personal comments” about you. Do you think calling me a hypocrite is NOT a personal insult? If you can’t win the argument go behind my back, right? That’s one way to “win” an argument. Get your opponent banned when you can’t answer him publically. Then we can re-name this forum Orthodox Anwers cuz the Catholics will be gone.

If you can’t play with the big boys get off the playground!


Ron

 

[Mickey]

Now, Mickey, I know you have gone crying to the Moderator that I have been making “personal comments” about you. Do you think calling me a hypocrite is NOT a personal insult? If you can’t win the argument go behind my back, right? That’s one way to “win” an argument. Get your opponent banned when you can’t answer him publically. Then we can re-name this forum Orthodox Anwers cuz the Catholics will be gone.

If you can’t play with the big boys get off the playground!

I posted a quote from a Church Father for the edification of evereyone here. If it pierces your conscience, perhaps you should take notice.

 

[Mickey]

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[roncriss]

Do you mean that we have the ability to close our eyes and ignore that brother and sister had consumated a marriage in good faith, begot siblings/cousins, and go into denial that such a situation calls for drastic pastoral counseling? No, I do not believe we have that power of denial.
We don’t have the magic word. Corban.

Isa, like Mickey you can’t answer a direct question. You seem to think “Corban” is the magic word whenever you lack an argument. I am officially bored now.

Folks, let me know if an Orthodox Christian with an actual ARGUMENT who actually wants to DISCUSS comes along. Till then, bye.

Ron

 

[Mickey]

Here’s one for me!

A man who is deeply wounded in his heart by provocation and abuse shows thereby that deep in himself he harbors the old serpent. If he bears the blows in silence or answers with great humility, he will render this serpent weak and powerless (or will kill it altogether). But if he argues with bitterness or speaks with arrogance he will give the serpent an added strength to pour poison into his heart.
St. Simeon the New Theologian (Practical and Theological Precepts no. 31, Writings from the Philokalia on Prayer of the Heart; Faber and Faber pg. 103)

 

[Mickey]

No, your mistranslation does. I’ve already posted the myriad of lexica for “pornei” and illegitimage marriages isn’t one of them.

Yes Isa. I have never seen that translation.

Your lexica should have put the case to rest but…

 

[Isa_Almisry]

Isa, like Mickey you can’t answer a direct question. You seem to think “Corban” is the magic word whenever you lack an argument. I am officially bored now.

Folks, let me know if an Orthodox Christian with an actual ARGUMENT who actually wants to DISCUSS comes along. Till then, bye.

Ron

No, Corban is the magic word that reves up the way back machine so a marriage of 20, 30, how many years can be sucked into the oblivion of denial.

I think I have answered your questions directly. Perhaps too direct?

 

[whatevergirl]

I only read page 1 through 12 …I am fascinated–this thread is very interesting!

Question–are most states–considered ‘no fault’ states when it comes to divorces? I think that’s the case in Florida…Not sure of elsewhere?