Oscars hit by absence of hollywood

[OriginalJS]

I’m much more put off by the Nazi-apologist The Reader getting nods from the Academy than I am about any of the attention paid to Milk. I guess the only real comfort is that pretty much no one has seen hardly any of the nominated movies.

*The Reader *is not an apology for the Nazis. On the contrary, I was conflicted by the injustice of the sentence passed on Hannah Schmitz as the result of her being ashamed she was illiterate and the fact of the enormity of her crimes - all in light of the obvious fact she was a simple woman sitting before a biased court and had no inkling of the position she found herself in. I was also stung by the all to human weakness of Eric Berg who as a law student failed to step forward to bring Schmitz’ illiteracy to the attention of the court. How many of us see injustice and look the other way if not so blatantly?

 

[LilyM]

I can beat that. I just wait to read the newspaper in the morning and do something more worthwhile while the Oscars drones on interminably.

I watch the news bulletins - they give me everything I want to see in about the first ten minutes - including snippets from the speeches and highlights of the hosting.

 

[maggiemay2u]

I happily missed the Oscars except for the actress award.

The unfortunate thing about Milk is that people will take it as gospel. The fact that I think Penn is an overrated, overacting, whiny twit aside, the movie rewrites in the same vein as JFK. A whole generation of the unread actually believe the grassy knoll fairy tale.

Yes, I did see the movie, but I didn’t pay for it…the movie I bought the ticket for was too far into the plot to stay, so I let the management know I was switching screens…had the place pretty much to myself.

Delighted about Slum Lord, and Winslet; wanted Rourke to win, so I guess it’s a tie.

 

[Teen4Christ]

I happily missed the Oscars except for the actress award.

The unfortunate thing about Milk is that people will take it as gospel. The fact that I think Penn is an overrated, overacting, whiny twit aside, the movie rewrites in the same vein as JFK.** A whole generation of the unread actually believe the grassy knoll fairy tale.**Yes, I did see the movie, but I didn’t pay for it…the movie I bought the ticket for was too far into the plot to stay, so I let the management know I was switching screens…had the place pretty much to myself.

Delighted about Slum Lord, and Winslet; wanted Rourke to win, so I guess it’s a tie.

The movie was very true and unlike most, didn’t change much. It was very honest.

 

[Kaninchen]

*The Reader *is not an apology for the Nazis. On the contrary, I was conflicted by the injustice of the sentence passed on Hannah Schmitz as the result of her being ashamed she was illiterate and the fact of the enormity of her crimes - all in light of the obvious fact she was a simple woman sitting before a biased court and had no inkling of the position she found herself in. I was also stung by the all to human weakness of Eric Berg who as a law student failed to step forward to bring Schmitz’ illiteracy to the attention of the court. How many of us see injustice and look the other way if not so blatantly?

I’ve not seen the film but I’ve read the book (in English and German) so I don’t know whether the major theme of child abuse is carried over. Much of Michael Berg’s behavior is dominated by a whole series of internal conflicts, especially as he realizes her illiteracy during the trial. He has a lot to forgive Hanna for, after all.

What range of crimes can be excused by shame and fear of revelation of the shameful?

In no sense is “Der Vorleser” nazi-apologetics, I agree with you.

 

[dixieagle]

I missed that last bit. Was it during the documentaries, because that was the one part I missed?

I think it was during the documentary awards;it may have been that idiot Bill Maher, who mentioned something about “…our silly gods cost the world too greatly” while whining that his awful movie wasn’t nominated. I wasn’t paying close attention at that point…

 

[maggiemay2u]

The movie was very true and unlike most, didn’t change much. It was very honest.

I take it you were in SF during the Twin Peaks wars. Perhaps we were neighbors. Tho the numbers are dwindling, family and friends are still there.

My friend, it was fiction, based on fact, just like JFK. It doesn’t mean Milk or Moscone should have died, and I’m sure Feinstein, Brown and Pelosi’s BIL are all glad they “dodged the bullet”. That’s just the way it rolls.

 

[maggiemay2u]

I think it was during the documentary awards;it may have been that idiot Bill Maher, who mentioned something about “…our silly gods cost the world too greatly” while whining that his awful movie wasn’t nominated. I wasn’t paying close attention at that point…

Yeah, the sight of that supercilious, arrogant fool gets me flipping the switch pretty quick, too. I did hear him mention his “movie” before I hit the remote. What a dork.

 

[siamesecat]

It is when it includes scenes of two men making out. Sorry - can’t support that.

~Liza

Do you watch movies that contain premarital sex? Rape? Child abuse? Violence? Extremely profane language? Adultery? If you don’t, then you have a point - don’t support movies depicting immoral behavior. But the fact is things we don’t agree with exist in life, and can often make a very good story. If you watch movies that show sinful or otherwise disturbing behavior, or even just stuff you don’t like, it’s ridiculous to just single out a gay makeout scene. This is my issue - Catholics have every right to be against homosexuality. it’s the extreme focus put on it to the detriment of other very harmful or similarly sinful issues that gets to me and makes it hard to take seriously.

 

[Teen4Christ]

I take it you were in SF during the Twin Peaks wars. Perhaps we were neighbors. Tho the numbers are dwindling, family and friends are still there.

My friend, it was fiction, based on fact, just like JFK. It doesn’t mean Milk or Moscone should have died, and I’m sure Feinstein, Brown and Pelosi’s BIL are all glad they “dodged the bullet”. That’s just the way it rolls.

From all I’ve read about him(alot) it seemed pretty accurate

 

[colliric]

I missed that last bit. Was it during the documentaries, because that was the one part I missed?

Yes. It is something I believe the Academy should not allow to occur, Presenters and winners should not be allowed to use the Ceremony as a Soap Box as has increasingly been the case.

 

[JPUSC]

“LOTR: Return of the King” won Best Picture in 2003. But, yeah, Gladiator and ROTK are the only two blockbusters to win Best Picture in the last 10 years. This year, the Dark Knight made more money than all 5 Best Picture nominations combined in just the first 4 days of it’s release. Go figure!

My wife and I recorded the Awards on our DVR so we could skip past all the acceptance speeches and just see who won. Much less stressful.

You can just check the winners list online a few hours after the airing - hasslefree.

 

[siamesecat]

Yes. It is something I believe the Academy should not allow to occur, Presenters and winners should not be allowed to use the Ceremony as a Soap Box as has increasingly been the case.

People wouldn’t listen though. Especially when so many movies have political themes and there are protesters at the door.

 

[colliric]

Are you suggesting that these awards ought to be handed out based on financial success? Are you suggesting that artistic merit and financial success are the same thing?

Edwin

In Hollywood they sometimes think too much the opposite way, that financial sucess rules a movie out of winning the Best Picture.

This should not be the case, many movies which made Big returns at the Box Office are of an exceptionally high quality, such as Wall-E which also missed out on a nomination(It probally would have won or been a close second place). Although
every once in a while a Blockbuster breaks through this and wins, it’s very very rare. It was not so in earlier times when the Best Picture Award went to films such as “Ben Hur”, “My Fair Lady” and “Oliver!”. Usually the film that won BP was both of a High quality and a huge Box Office sucess to boot. I think this way of awarding it ended in the late 70s and it’s a shame.

 

[Joe_5859]

You can just check the winners list online a few hours after the airing - hasslefree.

I know, I know. But try telling that to my wife! I admit, I do like to catch the In Memoriam montage. It always surprises me to see who has died in the past year. I didn’t know Charlton Heston had died. I guess I missed the news that week!