Other catechists undermining my teaching

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I don’t know what you are getting at pre-planned. The other catechist is not in my class. They have a different grade. I don’t look at their lesson plan and they don’t look at mind. I’m not for sure where you’re coming at on the greater communication. I didn’t know I need other catechists approval for my lesson plan. However, if they are a catechist, I believe they should know that reconciliation is necessary for receiving the eucharist if we have committed mortal sin.

I’m not trying to be short with you. I’m curious, do catechists at your parish look at each others plans?
I’m actually not sure of their practices. But I think I understand the situation more clearly now. I had originally thought that this was a class taught by a group of people. Knowing now that this is just your class, I agree again that they were out of line and out of touch. Confession is a very good thing!
 
I’m actually not sure of their practices. But I think I understand the situation more clearly now. I had originally thought that this was a class taught by a group of people. Knowing now that this is just your class, I agree again that they were out of line and out of touch. Confession is a very good thing!
Thank you for your support. I try my best to give these children a good background of what the Church teaches. It breaks me down when I see other people, who are suppose to be role models, treat me and my my work as if it were foolish.
 
my youngest daughter said that one of the other catechists said, “I don’t know why he’s worried about that. They’re too young to even have to worry about confession.”
I have prepared children for First Confession and First Communion many times. It is a privilege and an honor. I think you are on the right track. It is not so much that children are capable of committing mortal sin at the age of 7, as it is teaching them to go to Jesus when they need forgiveness. In the wisdom of the Church children are brought into the practice of the sacraments at a younger age than in previous centuries. It is not about “having” to confess their sins, but the practice of asking for forgiveness and receiving grace.

The other catechist was not “wrong” but was trivializing children’s feelings of guilt and need for assurance that they can be forgiven for their sins. As these children grow “in wisdom and grace” they will be able to take responsibiltiy for their actions. God bless you for being a sincere advocate for children.
 
I have prepared children for First Confession and First Communion many times. It is a privilege and an honor. I think you are on the right track. It is not so much that children are capable of committing mortal sin at the age of 7, as it is teaching them to go to Jesus when they need forgiveness. In the wisdom of the Church children are brought into the practice of the sacraments at a younger age than in previous centuries. It is not about “having” to confess their sins, but the practice of asking for forgiveness and receiving grace.

The other catechist was not “wrong” but was trivializing children’s feelings of guilt and need for assurance that they can be forgiven for their sins. As these children grow “in wisdom and grace” they will be able to take responsibiltiy for their actions. God bless you for being a sincere advocate for children.
In my heart, I believe the other catechist was wrong becauseI think children at this age are very well capable of committing mortal sin. We teach them that they are breaking God’s laws by disobeying their parents, stealing, etc. Children can meet the three conditions of a mortal sin. The sin must be grave matter. For example, not honoring your mother and father is a “grave matter”. They must have knowledge of the sin. We teach the kids the ten commandments so they know god’s laws. It must be deliberate consent. Kids at this age do choose to do things by their own free will even when they know something is wrong. So if they are meeting these three conditions, then they can committ a mortal sin. I’m not saying they all have done this. It is none of my business, but I am just reaffirming to them the importance of reconciliation and the importance of not receiving communion under a state of mortal sin.
 
In my heart, I believe the other catechist was wrong becauseI think children at this age are very well capable of committing mortal sin. When we teach them that they are breaking God’s laws by disobeying their parents, stealing, etc. Children can meet the three conditions of a mortal sin. The sin must be grave matter. For example, not honoring your mother and father is a “grave matter”. They must have knowledge of the sin. We teach the kids the ten commandments so they know god’s laws. It must be deliberate consent. Kids at this age do choose to do things by their own free will even when they know something is wrong. So if they are meeting these three conditions, then they can committ a mortal sin. I’m not saying they all have done this. It is none of my business, but I am just reaffirming to them the importance of reconciliation and the importance of not receiving communion under a state of mortal sin.
Anybody who says a child of this age is incapable of serious sin simply does not know children or was never a child himself. Because the damage that can be done by a child’s sins is usually small, we tend to value the sin by its material consequences. Now, ain’t that the DUMBEST thing you ever heard?
 
Anybody who says a child of this age is incapable of serious sin simply does not know children or was never a child himself. Because the damage that can be done by a child’s sins is usually small, we tend to value the sin by its material consequences. Now, ain’t that the DUMBEST thing you ever heard?
:amen:
 
As for the consequences of childhood sin usually being small, how about the kid who started those California wildfires last year. D’ya think his parents had never told him not to play with matches? D’ya think he disobeyed?
 
As for the consequences of childhood sin usually being small, how about the kid who started those California wildfires last year. D’ya think his parents had never told him not to play with matches? D’ya think he disobeyed?
I think we tend to undermine children’s abilities. We don’t hold them to a level of accountability as much as parents have in the past. They know from a very young age of what is right and what is wrong and like you mentioned, sometimes the consequences can be catastrophic.
 
I think we tend to undermine children’s abilities. We don’t hold them to a level of accountability as much as parents have in the past. They know from a very young age of what is right and what is wrong and like you mentioned, sometimes the consequences can be catastrophic.
OK, we’re getting off topic. But I teach 6th grade CCD. In terms of behavior, responsibility, capability, many of my kids are like 5 year tolds. Their parents won’t let them walk one mile in our VERY SAFE suburban town. Some are not allowed to cross the street.
 
It takes one person with a bad attitude to spoil a crowd sometimes!!! I would continue with your plans becuase you dont know what seed you are planting and you dont know what the other familys are thinking even if they dont want to be vocal. I noticed adults can be a lot like teenagers when it comes to things like these, they dont want to look like a dork, but they might take to heart what you say.Just continue to be the best example you can be.
 
It isn’t uncommon to run across Catholics who think that Holy Communion makes the Sacrament of Reconciliation is redundant, except when a mortal sin has been committed. If your fellow catechists have voiced opinions that sound like that, let your DRE know, so he or she can address the issue. It would be hard for you to do so without ruffling feathers, and you shouldn’t have to.

Also, ask your DRE to consider a policy concerning how catechists should handle it when they learn that another catechist might be teaching something that is in error. A parallel policy for parents with concerns should also be instituted and encouraged. This will make it more likely that these issues will be handled in a more professional and constructive way in the future.

We are in a parish where the pastor has been actively encouraging parishioners to make more frequent use of the Sacrament of Reconciliation. We are considering an explanation of this for our students making their First Reconciliation and First Holy Communion, something like this:

Holy Communion wipes away less serious sins.
If I haven’t committed a serious sin, do I need to go to confession?

Going to confession is a very good habit, even when we haven’t committed a mortal sin. The Sacraments of Eucharist and Reconciliation are meant to work together! Jesus gave us the Sacrament of Reconciliation not only to wipe away our sins, but also as a special help to make better choices. It helps to form our conscience, the inner voice that tells us right from wrong. It allows us to be healed by Christ. It helps us to sin less and to live our love for God and others more than if we did not go to confession.

(Feedback from this forum is welcome, too!)
 
I have not read every entry in this thread so excuse me if I am being redundant. But, what catechist would suggest that receiving the sacrament of reconciliation at anytime would be a waste?? Are you kidding me?? Many of the kids that I teach in Junior High have not been to confession since their first time. We have since been taking them every year so that we can at least eliminate that problem. The Sacrament of Reconciliation dispenses grace regardless of the gravity of the sins. We should encourage these children to go as often as they wish and not roll our eyes at the request of taking them twice before their First Communion. Sometimes we cannot be inconvenienced with taking out the time to do such an “unnecessary” action.:eek:

I think that those catechists who undermined your suggestion need to do some soul searching and realize what it is exactly that they do. Anytime that we can bring those to Christ in the Sacraments we should jump at the chance. Practically speaking, if your parish has a priest shortage then perhaps scheduling may be an issue. But the concept should definitely be kept alive.

Fight the good fight and don’t give up. When I went to confession last night there was literally one other person there. We need to change that. And it is those like you who will…God Bless you in your ministry…teachccd 🙂
 
Thank you for your words of encouragement. It is hard to lead young individuals down the right path without the full participation of parents and catechists. The Sacrament of Reconciliation is such a beautiful gift that Jesus has given us. I wish the majority of Catholics could open their eyes and see it.
 
As a a Faith Formation office, we are planning on having every kid at mass in before a priest for reconciliation at least once a year. It is so scary/sad how many families consider FF as church. Lead, lead, lead! Very few people - even catechists - do not have the foggiest idea about Catholic traditions and teachings.
 
The teacher who muttered something about your suggestion acted very unprofessionally. If she had a problem with it, she should have said something privately to you. But all you did was suggest the kids receive a sacrament! I can’t imagine how any Catholic could criticize that.

I don’t know if a 2nd grade kid can commit a mortal sin or not. Even in first grade (yeah, I’m a relic from the days when First Communion and Confession were in 1st grade) I was terrified of going to confession because I was sure that my every thought, word and deed was condemning me to hell, thanks to the nun I had in all three primary grades.

Confession should be encouraged as a good thing, refreshment for the soul, sustenance for the heart, as well as an opportunity to ask forgiveness.
 
The teacher who muttered something about your suggestion acted very unprofessionally.
The problem is that these are not professionals - I am guessing. I have 150 catechists in my program and really need closer to 180. I have given a little thought to Professional Catechists. You hire trained people and make sure they give the right message. Some churches do this. I offer classes six times a week for PK-7 and two summer sessions. It is so hard to make sure everything being taught is on the up and up, let alone everyone showing up.
 
Most churches can’t afford to hire professionals these days. The cost of the religious education program at our church is $25 per student. This barely covers the textbook and supplies. Recruitment of catechists is also hard so pretty much, the only requirement to be a catechist is to have a heartbeat. That’s sad, but now days, I’m going to say that you have approximately 20% of the parish who volunteer to do anything. The other 30% think that showing up for Mass once a week is good enough. The other 50% doesn’t show up.
 
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