Other Denominations' web forums and anti-Catholicism

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Moderators, please forgive me if I post anything here inappropriate. I don’t even know if this is the right forum for this! But…

One of the things that has been in the back of my mind about CA’s forum since I decided (with great inspiration from CA) to convert to Catholicism has been the way some seem to go on about fundamentalists and evangelicals in what I viewed as almost a mean spirited fashion. Being rasied Baptist in the South, I felt if anyone, I should have been exposed to much Catholic bashing. It was never the case, though. Sure, there were comments about Catholics being alcoholics or other little snide statements about statue worship but on the whole, I didn’t see too much harsh criticism.

Well, after reading through the forum here over the past year, at some points I’ve ALMOST (notice I say ALMOST) wanted to stand up for my former protestant brethren. Basically, I saw some posts which I felt were a little to uncharitable and thought to myself “Gee, that’s not what Baptists believe!” or “We would have never said that about Catholics!” I thought maybe some of the folks on here were being a bit harsh.

Well, tonight, out of boredom, after I got home from RCIA, I was musing over the fact that basically I found this place just by googling “Catholic.” I got curious and googled “Baptist forum.” Well, I found one. Quite honestly, I was horrified by what I found. I never knew the MEANING of the word “uncharitable” until browsing through the threads on that site. It was divided into threads where ONLY Baptists could post and then into threads where any denom. could post.

There were threads that talked about the “magic show” that is mass, threads that discussed how dead Catholicism is, and all other sorts of mean siprited attacks. Well, after reading through several threads using the same tired arguments to wrongly criticize Catholicism, I wandered upon one which was titled something to the effect of “Catholics and Posting Rules.” In this thread, a member had asked why a Catholic member had been banned. Basically, after going back and forth w/ the mods and admins over several pages of posts, it came out that Roman Catholics are no longer allowed to post on the site and that perhaps, if they are allowed to, they cannot prostelitize and promote their “error.”

It WAS rightly put forward that this was a private site and that the owner had the right to make up any rules he wished, but…I cannot believe that a Christian website would so intolerant of hearing the views of Catholics! You know, the original Christians? It was as if it was a-ok to bash Catholics at will but heaven forbid a Catholic try to explain our side.

I don’t seek to offend or call out any protestant posters here. I have seen many wonderful discussions conducted in a civil fashion.

I must apologize for ever questioning the motives or motivations of any Catholic on the CA forum here. I never realized how outright mean and anti-Catholic some people are today. I now KNOW mean-sprited attacks and they aren’t here!
 
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Brian_C:
There were threads that talked about the “magic show” that is mass, threads that discussed how dead Catholicism is, and all other sorts of mean siprited attacks. Well, after reading through several threads using the same tired arguments to wrongly criticize Catholicism, I wandered upon one which was titled something to the effect of “Catholics and Posting Rules.” In this thread, a member had asked why a Catholic member had been banned. Basically, after going back and forth w/ the mods and admins over several pages of posts, it came out that Roman Catholics are no longer allowed to post on the site and that perhaps, if they are allowed to, they cannot prostelitize and promote their “error.”…
Wow! I hope I don’t come across as hateful!
 
As a Catholic retread I also doddled in the Baptist world for 26 years in 3 states and many churches. I have seen 1 and only one very nice Baptist church when it came to Catholics. All the rest never let facts or truth stand in the way of a good Catholic bashing!👍 Hitler is not the only one who was/is good at using hatred of others to unite and mativate his followers.

I will also note that the preachers were so anti-Catholic that even some of the congregation was offended. But it was ‘fun’ to be Baptist so everyone just accepted it and smiled along. As a former Catholic in those days I too knew the preacher was a hate monger or liar or just plain ignorent but again I too had too much fun. Why let truth or Jesus stand in the way of great Christian singspirations and picnics and youth groups and social activities and freindships, etc.:dancing:

It was actually a Baptist preacher that started me home to the Catholic Church, Praise God!

Anyway, here are just two forums I have been kicked out of. Are one of these it or another? There’s so many it’s hard to note them all here.

baptist.org

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I forgive them and I pray you do too.

JMJ
 
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Brian_C:
Well, tonight, out of boredom, after I got home from RCIA, I was musing over the fact that basically I found this place just by googling “Catholic.” I got curious and googled “Baptist forum.” Well, I found one. Quite honestly, I was horrified by what I found. I never knew the MEANING of the word “uncharitable” until browsing through the threads on that site. It was divided into threads where ONLY Baptists could post and then into threads where any denom. could post.

There were threads that talked about the “magic show” that is mass, threads that discussed how dead Catholicism is, and all other sorts of mean siprited attacks. Well, after reading through several threads using the same tired arguments to wrongly criticize Catholicism, I wandered upon one which was titled something to the effect of “Catholics and Posting Rules.” In this thread, a member had asked why a Catholic member had been banned. Basically, after going back and forth w/ the mods and admins over several pages of posts, it came out that Roman Catholics are no longer allowed to post on the site and that perhaps, if they are allowed to, they cannot prostelitize and promote their “error.”

It WAS rightly put forward that this was a private site and that the owner had the right to make up any rules he wished, but…I cannot believe that a Christian website would so intolerant of hearing the views of Catholics! You know, the original Christians? It was as if it was a-ok to bash Catholics at will but heaven forbid a Catholic try to explain our side.

I don’t seek to offend or call out any protestant posters here. I have seen many wonderful discussions conducted in a civil fashion.

I must apologize for ever questioning the motives or motivations of any Catholic on the CA forum here. I never realized how outright mean and anti-Catholic some people are today. I now KNOW mean-sprited attacks and they aren’t here!
Unfortunately, human beings fill up both Protestant and Catholic pews. Each is an individual bringing with them their own prejudices and opinions. On occasion, I too have been less than charitable, but that is usually only after I, or the Church have been attacked. Turning the cheek hasn’t been a suit of mine but I do try as I am sure others on both sides do. If you think some of the Protestant web sites are bad, wait until you’re coming out of Mass one day and find Protestants on the sidewalk in front of the Church handing out tracts and denouncing Christ’s Church!

PS - I’ve been banned from at least one Baptist site myself.
 
Yeah, I’m not going to mention what website it is unless someone tells me it’s okay.😉

I realize we are all human and it’s hard to see the other side of the issue. Especially when you are born into it. I know I dearly loved my Catholic relatives but I always thought they were in a church that was just wrong and out of touch w/ Christianity. But to be honest, besides the common “pop” statements about what’s “wrong” with Catholicism, I never seriously sought to understand what is different about Catholicism and why it hangs on to these “errors.”😃 Well, after reading practically everything on Carl’s main page and several Catholic works, I can’t see how I could ever be anything OTHER than Catholic!

I HAVE discovered a blatent anti-Catholic statement in the small town where I work. Just over the property line of the local small Catholic church, there is a “roadsign” giving directions to the Baptist Church. That leaves a bad taste in my mouth.😦
Ah, I remembered one other thing I wanted to put into my first post. When the merits of having Catholics being able to post was being discussed on that website, one thing mentioned was perhaps it was because Catholics had no forum because they can’t intelligently discuss their beliefs (or something to that effect)! WOW! I wished I could insert a link to THIS site!!!
 
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imroc:
Wow! I hope I don’t come across as hateful!
Huh?😃

No! No one really comes across as hateful here. I just, I guess, wasn’t used to people having to defend their faith so vigorously. I guess I better start building up a Catholic apologetics library of my own…😦
 
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Brian_C:
Huh?😃

No! No one really comes across as hateful here. I just, I guess, wasn’t used to people having to defend their faith so vigorously. I guess I better start building up a Catholic apologetics library of my own…😦
LOL, yes, I’d recommend that. In fact, if I might suggest a GREAT starting point… Beginning Apologetics. It’s here at Catholic.com and is only $34.95 for all 9 books. God bless and Merry Christmas!
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LOL, they’ll hate me at the CA store if I order from them again!😃 I had a little mix up in an order I placed in November and it still isn’t here! They still had my old address. Well, at least On the Way to Jesus Christ by Benedict XVI isn’t here. But the 3 Hilaire Belloc books are and they are great! And, Bible Answerman Debates are on the way!

Yeah, it still just turns my stomach thinking about some of the posts on that site. Oh well. God Bless them!
 
With some measure of searching I could probably find some website sponsored by Catholic folks who are less than charitable and fair-minded towards Protestants. Thankfully there probably aren’t many but they do exist, I suspect.

Because of the nature of the Protestant movement, you do find a great many sectarian groups which can be quite un-Christianly in their demeanor. If not towards Roman Catholics, then towards other groups. If you search you should also be able to find forums and websites sponsored by Protestants which are willing to engage in dialogue with Catholic, and which are moderated fairly. FAIR-LDS is one pretty good Mormon site. There are others out there, I’m sure. Painting with too-broad a brush is not a good idea.
 
OP. I am in the same boat. I’ve been SB my whole life, in the deep south, and never really came across any Catholic bashing in my life. In my church or elsewhere.
I think hatred gives birth to hatred and hatred attracts other hatred. That being said, if you hate Catholics and want to talk about it, you will find a voice somewhere (especially in the internet age that we live in). And vice versa.

I feel sorry for people (not just Catholics) who have horrible online or reallife experiences with christians of any shape size or denom. A friend in college was a stubborn athiest because a church disowned him at the age of 12 because of his mother’s lifestyle (lesbian). I couldn’t believe that a Jesus-loving church would disown a child for something he had no control over!!
When greeting peole who have been wounded as such we have two choices… Further engrain the stereotype, or show them Christ’s love.
 
I was a Southern Baptist for 10-11 years growing up, I did hear references to Catholics, Mormons, and JW’s, people who speak in Tongues…mostly Catholics…nothing too memorable but a clear sense of THEY ARE WRONG…It is hard to think back and remember what was said but I think confession to a man, Mary…not sure. It slips me.
BrianH
 
There are subtler forms of prejudice against Catholics out there, too. My own parents, good people that they were, wouldn’t let me have a picture of the Sacred Heart of Jesus when I was a little girl because, as they put it, “That’s a Catholic picture” in that tone that conveyed to me that something wasn’t quite right about Catholicism–we were Episcopalians.

Look at all the TV programs and newspaper articles that put forward the worst image of Catholics possible and/or promote stereotypes or outright lies about the Catholic faith. No other religious group gets as much of this kind of treatment as the Catholic Church.

No matter if it be Enlightenment snobbery or Fundamentalist hate-mongering, the world has it in for Christ’s Church. We shouldn’t be surprised at this. Jesus himself said that brother would turn against brother, the world would hate us, and that a man’s enemies would be those within his own household because of him. So, it should be expected that some people who claim Christ would hate us and those who hate Christ (those of the world) will hate us too.
 
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flameburns623:
There are others out there, I’m sure. Painting with too-broad a brush is not a good idea.
I understand what you are saying, but I don’t think I am trying to paint w/ too broad a brush. All I was saying is that I never encountered serious Catholic bashing as a Baptist and was surprised at the level of hatred and misunderstanding that exists. I know not all protestants are exactly alike and that’s why I mentioned in my first post that I thought at one time that perhaps some of the discussions here were a bit too harsh and that it was unique to this site or Catholics. I didn’t realize that there WERE such vitriolic discussions on some websites, especially those of my former denomination.
 
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