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This video is wonderful, exactly what I am going to teach my CCD class of 9th graders tomorrow. I wished there was a way to load it onto my computer as my church does not have internet!
 
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II am not sure if this is the right area to post this, but I found this video on Youtube and I would really take the time to watchi it! It explains our Blessed Mother in such a beautiful way!
Please feel free to leave a comment!

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Not all first century Christians knew the Old Testament from memory, as this video claims.

Such an idea would only apply to Jews, not Greeks/Gentiles. And there were obviously Greek/Gentile Christians in the first century.
 
Gianna_MarieJMJ said:
II am not sure if this is the right area to post this, but I found this video on Youtube and I would really take the time to watchi it! It explains our Blessed Mother in such a beautiful way!
Please feel free to leave a comment!

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This video claims the Apostle John wrote both the Gospel of John and the Book of Revelation. Catholic scholars do not agree on this point, and the Catholic Church does not teach that the Apostle John necessarily wrote either of those books. Just an fyi.
 
Nowhere in the video does it state that the apostle John wrote the Gospel of John and also John the apostle did write the book of Revelation.

And you know, I wasn’t the one who made the video, I found it and posted it here because I thought it to be a very good explanation on Mary, who refuted and looked down upon everyday.
 
Gianna_MarieJMJ said:
Nowhere in the video does it state that the apostle John wrote the Gospel of John and also John the apostle did write the book of Revelation.

And you know, I wasn’t the one who made the video, I found it and posted it here because I thought it to be a very good explanation on Mary, who refuted and looked down upon everyday.
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See around 03:22. It says “John also wrote the Book of Revelation.” I admit, I may be mistaken, but to me I don’t understand what that means except the video is claiming John wrote both the Gospel of John and the Book of Revelation. I can only assume (and again, may be wrong, welcome any clarification) that the “John” the video refers to is the Apostle, and not e.g. John the Baptist. The video says only “John” without clarifying who “John” is, that is what prompted the thought in my mind.

Yes, of course, I know you didn’t make the video, I was commenting on the video and not you…sorry again if that wasn’t clear.

Does this clarify my comment? Sorry if I wasn’t clear.
 
Vince,

Please don’t apologize! There is no need for it. 🙂

I was curious myself because I had always heard that St. John the Apostle did in fact write both the book of Revelation AND the Gospel.
This well known Catholic website and others state so itself.

newadvent.org/cathen/08438a.htm

It says,​

Authorship
If we except the heretics mentioned by Irenaeus (Against Heresies III.11.9) and Epiphanius (Haer., li, 3), the authenticity of the Fourth Gospel was scarcely ever seriously questioned until the end of the eighteenth century. Evanson (1792) and Bretschneider (1820) were the first to run counter to tradition in the question of the authorship, and, since David Friedrich Strauss (1834-40) adopted Bretschneider’s views and the members of the Tübingen School, in the wake of Ferdinand Christian Baur, denied the authenticity of this Gospel, the majority of the critics outside the Catholic Church have denied that the Fourth Gospel was authentic. On the admission of many critics, their chief reason lies in the fact that John has too clearly and emphatically made the true Divinity of the Redeemer, in the strict metaphysical sense, the centre of his narrative. However, even Harnack has had to admit that, though denying the authenticity of the Fourth Gospel, he has sought in vain for any satisfactory solution of the Johannine problem: “Again and again have I attempted to solve the problem with various possible theories, but they led me into still greater difficulties, and even developed into contradictions.” (“Gesch. der altchristl. Lit.”, I, pt. ii, Leipzig, 1897, p. 678.)

A short examination of the arguments bearing on the solution of the problem of the authorship of the Fourth Gospel will enable the reader to form an independent judgment.

Direct historical proof
If, as is demanded by the character of the historical question, we first consult the historical testimony of the past, we discover the universally admitted fact that, from the eighteenth century back to at least the third, the Apostle John was accepted without question as the author of the Fourth Gospel. In the examination of evidence therefore, we may begin with the third century, and thence proceed back to the time of the Apostles.​

I thought this was interesting and I thought you would too.

God Bless,

Gianna_MarieJMJ
 
Gianna_MarieJMJ said:
Vince,

Please don’t apologize! There is no need for it. 🙂

I was curious myself because I had always heard that St. John the Apostle did in fact write both the book of Revelation AND the Gospel.
This well known Catholic website and others state so itself.

newadvent.org/cathen/08438a.htm

It says,​

Authorship
If we except the heretics mentioned by Irenaeus (Against Heresies III.11.9) and Epiphanius (Haer., li, 3), the authenticity of the Fourth Gospel was scarcely ever seriously questioned until the end of the eighteenth century. Evanson (1792) and Bretschneider (1820) were the first to run counter to tradition in the question of the authorship, and, since David Friedrich Strauss (1834-40) adopted Bretschneider’s views and the members of the Tübingen School, in the wake of Ferdinand Christian Baur, denied the authenticity of this Gospel, the majority of the critics outside the Catholic Church have denied that the Fourth Gospel was authentic. On the admission of many critics, their chief reason lies in the fact that John has too clearly and emphatically made the true Divinity of the Redeemer, in the strict metaphysical sense, the centre of his narrative. However, even Harnack has had to admit that, though denying the authenticity of the Fourth Gospel, he has sought in vain for any satisfactory solution of the Johannine problem: “Again and again have I attempted to solve the problem with various possible theories, but they led me into still greater difficulties, and even developed into contradictions.” (“Gesch. der altchristl. Lit.”, I, pt. ii, Leipzig, 1897, p. 678.)

A short examination of the arguments bearing on the solution of the problem of the authorship of the Fourth Gospel will enable the reader to form an independent judgment.

Direct historical proof
If, as is demanded by the character of the historical question, we first consult the historical testimony of the past, we discover the universally admitted fact that, from the eighteenth century back to at least the third, the Apostle John was accepted without question as the author of the Fourth Gospel. In the examination of evidence therefore, we may begin with the third century, and thence proceed back to the time of the Apostles.​

I thought this was interesting and I thought you would too.

God Bless,

Gianna_MarieJMJ
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Thanks. Regardless of what that website says, it’s not the same as Catholic teaching.

More specifically, it’s referring to the old edition of the Catholic Encyclopedia (from around 1913 or so). The current edition of the Catholic Encyclopedia was published in 2003, and so would be a better reference (unfortunately, not available online). Hope this helps.
 
You know, I have studied this now for a bit and came to realize that every Catholic website I go to, believes that John the Apostle wrote the Gospel. Where have you seen that he didn’t? And what is the big issue if he did write it?

Here is another website that clearly tells us that the Catholic Church believes John the Apostle wrote the Gospel.

4marks.com/articles/details.html?article_id=767

“The author of John provides key details in chapter 21 to help us narrow the field of candidates for the Beloved Disciple. The author writes that he is the Beloved Disciple (Jn. 21:20-24). In this passage, he also notes that Peter is not the Beloved Disciple, and that the Beloved Disciple “had lain close to his breast at the [Last] supper and had said, ‘Lord, who is it that is going to betray you?’” (Jn. 21:20; cf. 13:23-25; 20:2). From this account, we know that the Beloved Disciple was at the Last Supper.”

God Bless,

Gianna_MarieJMJ
 
Gianna_MarieJMJ said:
You know, I have studied this now for a bit and came to realize that every Catholic website I go to, believes that John the Apostle wrote the Gospel. Where have you seen that he didn’t?
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Nowhere on the Vatican website or the USCCB website does it say the the Apostle Joh wrote the Gospel of John. Nor does the Catechism.

The websites you refer to may be helpful, but unless you know otherwise, they do not represent required Catholic teaching. Right?
 
I never said that it is Church teaching. From what I have seen it is 'traditionally referred to the apostle John" and affirmed by early Church Fathers. The Douay bible also states this.

I thought it was a very good video and I wanted to share it. I still feel that way, but it will make me think twice before I post again.

Thanks for your comments, Vince.

You may want to start a thread on the subject. It would be interesting to read the comments.

God Bless 🙂

Gianna_MarieJMJ
 
Thank you for posting the video. I know you only found it on utube and did not make it yourself. I know a few people have been nit picking at a few words in the video. Yes, this video primarily compares Genesis to John, but if you look at all the other information on Mary you will see other books back it up also. Catholic answers has many pages on Mary.

I showed the video to my priest. He mention a few little things mentioned above, but he gave his stamp of approval for me to show it to my 9th grade CCD class.
 
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