Our Father Question

[jcrichton]

Hi jcichton: yes I knew that St. teresa of Avlia said prayer is talking to God a conversation. Another way of putting it for me prayer is a surge of the heart it is a simple look turned towards heaven it is a cry of recognition and of love, embracing both trail and joy. In the Our Father Jesus teaches us how to pray; in it is a prayer of blessing and adoration, prayer of petition, prayer of intercession, prayer of thanksgiving, a prayer of praise.

The Our Father is a summary of the whole Gospel. In the Our Father we say God is our Father and hallowed is His name, that is God’s name is Holy and to be respected. We ask that His Kingdom to come to us and that God’s will be done on earth just as God’s will is done in heaven. We ask God to give us His daily bread which in asking we ask for His covenant and what he knows we need and we ask God to forgive us what sins we commit against man just as we forgive those who who commit sins against us and we ask God not to allow us to be temped but to deliver us from temptations.

It is the perfect prayer because its the prayer that Jesus taught us to pray. I think since it was Jesus Himself that taught us this beautiful prayer we should say it. If it were not meant to be prayed then why would Jesus teach us this prayer?

Hi!

…and it is also important to note that even though this is in deed a perfect prayer, Jesus never said that we must equal or surpass His model… only that we pray in such a way that recognizes God’s Divinity and Providence and our responsibility to Call down His Blessings, to thank Him, and to uplift man by generously forgiving those who trespass against us!

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[Frankenfurter]

So, to say that everything Baptists believe, Catholics believe… well, it just doesn’t hold up.

I recall that the priest who was a former Baptist said that everything that Baptists HAVE, the Catholics have too. But Catholics have extra. He even went farther to say that when he was Baptist he had the donut, but when he became Catholic he had the same donut but with cream filling!

So for the OP, you can use the Lord’s prayer as a template just like your Uncle says. You guys have that in common and I suggest you focus on that, not your differences. But if you also want to recite the prayer every day as a way that helps you pray and keeps Jesus close to your heart, as a Catholic you can do that too! Unfortunately, some of our protestant friends might be afraid they are doing something wrong, so they stay away from that. They miss the cream in that donut.

 

[spina1953]

Hi!

…and it is also important to note that even though this is in deed a perfect prayer, Jesus never said that we must equal or surpass His model… only that we pray in such a way that recognizes God’s Divinity and Providence and our responsibility to Call down His Blessings, to thank Him, and to uplift man by generously forgiving those who trespass against us!

Maran atha!

Angel

Hi jcichton: I would not think one could make a better prayer then the one Jesus gave us!

 

[Gorgias]

I recall that the priest who was a former Baptist said that everything that Baptists HAVE, the Catholics have too. But Catholics have extra.

Aah… that is somewhat different than your original statement. Yet, you also claimed that “There is nothing that is Baptist that isn’t also Catholic”… and that’s just not true.

 

[jcrichton]

Hi jcichton: I would not think one could make a better prayer then the one Jesus gave us!

Hi!

…never said it was possible!

…just noted that Jesus did not intend for man to strive to do “perfect” or “better than perfect” prayers.

Check out what I stated about prayer and Who actually makes man’s prayer effective!

Maran atha!

Angel