Our God the Father of Jesus is God of All

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Our God the Father of Jesus is God of all the peoples of the world as we Christians believe, but would He “give 70 virgins in Heaven” to Muslims?
Would God tell both Muslims and Jews that it’s okay for them to do unto each other as is done by them to them including killing each other?

Are we afraid to tell them that their god is not the same as our God the Father of Jesus Christ unless they hear God’s Words as we hear Them?

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Taurus Rex said : "Our God the Father of Jesus is God of all the peoples of the world … but would He “give 70 virgins in Heaven” to Muslims?"

Sure, why not?
Don’t you like Virgins?
God can do whatever God wants to do, and we do NOT have to approve of God’s actions in order for God to do something.
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“Would God tell both Muslims and Jews that it’s okay for them to do unto each other as is done by them to them including killing each other?”**
Do you mean, is it written in the Bible (or Koran)?
Certainly that is NOT in the Bible at all (in the Old or New Testament), and it is NOT in the Koran.
Yet, in the Old Testament, God personally ordered the Jews into Battle numerous times to execute their Enemy (but they were not Muslims).

Since it is not in any Holy Text, why are you asking this Question?
Please remember that the Catholic Church tortured and murdered countless people, who were not Catholic (BECAUSE they were not Catholics). The Good-Old Inquisitions (especially the Spanish Inquisition).

And,** “Are we afraid to tell them that their god is not the same as our God the Father of Jesus Christ unless they hear God’s Words as we hear Them?”**

Who do you mean by “WE”?
Are YOU afraid to tell them, is the question that should be answered.
I personally would not be afraid to do that, if I thought that it was appropriate to do so.

It seems like you are being elitist by requiring Jews (who are still waiting for the First Coming of the Messiah) and Muslims (whose ONLY unforgivable Sin is in believing that Jesus is the Son of God) to be of no value "unless they hear God’s Words as we hear Them?"

In fact, by saying that, you are also calling all of the Protestants evil (or whatever point you are trying to make here).
 
TaurusRex said:
Our God the Father of Jesus is God of all the peoples of the world as we Christians believe, but would He “give 70 virgins in Heaven” to Muslims?
Would God tell both Muslims and Jews that it’s okay for them to do unto each other as is done by them to them including killing each other?

Are we afraid to tell them that their god is not the same as our God the Father of Jesus Christ unless they hear God’s Words as we hear Them?

rex
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For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are **like angels **in heaven.…
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Matthew 22:29
 
4love2God said:
Taurus Rex said : "Our God the Father of Jesus is God of all the peoples of the world … but would He “give 70 virgins in Heaven” to Muslims?"

Sure, why not?
Don’t you like Virgins?
God can do whatever God wants to do, and we do NOT have to approve of God’s actions in order for God to do something.
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“Would God tell both Muslims and Jews that it’s okay for them to do unto each other as is done by them to them including killing each other?”**
Do you mean, is it written in the Bible (or Koran)?
Certainly that is NOT in the Bible at all (in the Old or New Testament), and it is NOT in the Koran.
Yet, in the Old Testament, God personally ordered the Jews into Battle numerous times to execute their Enemy (but they were not Muslims).

Since it is not in any Holy Text, why are you asking this Question?
Please remember that the Catholic Church tortured and murdered countless people, who were not Catholic (BECAUSE they were not Catholics). The Good-Old Inquisitions (especially the Spanish Inquisition).

And,** “Are we afraid to tell them that their god is not the same as our God the Father of Jesus Christ unless they hear God’s Words as we hear Them?”**

Who do you mean by “WE”?
Are YOU afraid to tell them, is the question that should be answered.
I personally would not be afraid to do that, if I thought that it was appropriate to do so.

It seems like you are being elitist by requiring Jews (who are still waiting for the First Coming of the Messiah) and Muslims (whose ONLY unforgivable Sin is in believing that Jesus is the Son of God) to be of no value "unless they hear God’s Words as we hear Them?"

In fact, by saying that, you are also calling all of the Protestants evil (or whatever point you are trying to make here).
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Don’t both Muslims and Jews have that tit for tit tat for tat clause in their holy books, that is, the “tooth for a tooth” thing?
Also if they don’t believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah and also God, how can their idea of their god be the same as our Catholic/Christian God?
Your “we” question doesn’t even deserve an answer imo, but I do mean we members of the RCC if you really need an answer.

As far as my being an “elitist”, my motive is (and I’m not afraid to say it) that we need a different approach to dealing with jihadists …
promoting democracy in third world countries that don’t even have a freedom of choice is a waste of time, money and the blood of young Americans when the solution is imo to force our religious philosophy on them before they force theirs on us.

PS:
Do you think God will give “YOU” “70 virgins in Heaven” if “YOU” get there and you ask Him for them? :cool:
At my 71 years of age I’d be happy with a Mary Magdalene type. :rolleyes:

PPS:
Researching some back up information amazes me how I manage to fall into some really weird stuff like the meaning of the name Jehovah for example …
the part that haunts me is the reference to the #1943 in a Hebrew dictionary which is supposed to mean “ruin” …
the year I was born. :eek:

rex
 
As God is my witness I was watching a video: “Armies of the ancient world” and when it was over, thinking it was part #1, I clicked on the video that I thought was part #2:
youtube.com/watch?v=hnfhV01FXY0
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Shocking isn’t it? :eek:
The crazy thing is that the area of Khazaria happens to be on the Russian side including Crimea of this present day conflict …
something else interesting is that the Aryan race which started in Iran spread through this Khazarian area and into Europe.

Another weird coincidence is that apparently the Khazarians considered themselves as a 13th tribe of Israel and they adopted Judaism which according to the video is denied by Israeli Jews that they (the Khazarians) ever had a foot in Israel;
However, the coincidence for this thread is that there is a quote in the video:
youtube.com/watch?v=hnfhV01FXY0

“Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer … and we are HIS chosen people. Lucifer is very much alive.”-Harold Wallace Rosenthal."
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It also says in the video somewhere that according to the “Protocols of Zion and the Babylonian Talmud all peoples not of Khazar origin including the 12 tribes of Israel and all Semetic peoples are “non-Jew” “goyim”” …
The catch is that it also says somewhere in the video that the first time the word “Jew” was used was in Khazar.

rex
 
TaurusRex said : "Don’t both Muslims and Jews have that tit for tit tat for tat clause in their holy books, that is, the “tooth for a tooth” thing?"

Oh, I see.
You were talking about a Country of Muslims, or a Country of Jews.
I didn’t see how that related to the “an Eye for an Eye” quote (which I see as personal to the offended party, not everyone of their “race”).
I don’t think that is what the Verse means … Nation against nation.
But, for this Thread, fine.

And, "my motive is … that we need a different approach to dealing with jihadists … the solution is imo to force our religious philosophy on them before they force theirs on us."

I agree with you, that the USA desperately needs to use a different approach to dealing with Jihadists."
These people live in a different mindset … arguably an insane mindset.
One of the Hallmarks of a Jihadist is his hatred of other religions (the “Infidels”).
What a pity that the World suffers FEAR and some Deaths because of their perpetual Blind Hatred.

As far as your idea to force these Jihadists to become Christians, it is a Tried-and-True method.
The Catholic Church has done this several times in the past (the Inquisitions).
Certainly, it was reasonably effective in weeding out evil followers of other religions.

I don’t quite envision how this type of thing could be pulled-off in Today’s World, but if God is behind it, then miraculous things can occur.

And, "Do you think God will give “YOU” “70 virgins in Heaven” if “YOU” get there and you ask Him for them?"
Hmm, I never thought of it as a person needing to ask for the Virgins, I thought it was automatic, as long as a Muslim dies a Martyr’s death.
At least, that is how I perceived the meaning of the quote about it in the Koran.
I have read the entire Koran (and highlighted throughout it).
I was surprised that about 70% of it leans on Negative things … and very little is presented in a Positive way.
Anyway, I’m not here to get into Muslim theology.

In your scenario, I am a Christian who graduates into Heaven from Purgatory.
Some Holy Creature wants to know what I would like to do in Heaven.
And, the reply is to let me hang out with 70 Virgins.
Since I doubt there is any sexual intercourse occurring in Heaven, I guess we would be pic-nicking together, or whatever.

The way I envision Heaven to be is, that someone WILL ask me what I would like to do there in Heaven.
He will hand me a List of all of the “Jobs” there … and all of the activities that are available to someone of my Spiritual Status.
(Like it says,** the First shall be Last** … and the Last shall be First.)
Personally, I would not be interested in partying with a large crowd of women.
But, if I asked for 70 Virgins … I don’t think God would provide them (because that would not be one of the Options on the List).

I was confused by your very terse Post (just 3 short sentences).
It didn’t have enough detail for me to understand where you were coming from.
Thank you for replying to my Post.
 
Just what are you going to do with 70 virgins - I am assuming it sexual in nature.

Procreation is an earthly thing there is no reason for it in Heaven - it has its purpose here on earth and the pleasure function is so we know to procreate and no other reason - How do people think there is sex in heaven???

Are you sitting on the toilet too in heaven ???

Of all the false words coming from the mouth this is insane and showing little uderstanding and is based on the desires of the flesh.

I don’t get it?
 
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