Our home world was destroyed by our Sun: there is 8 billion of us, will you let us stay on earth?

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Bradski said:
‘How big are you?’

Maybe no-one has read (or heard or seen) The Hitchhikers Guide? An alien race was hell bent on travelling to earth to conquer us, but they made a mistake in measurement. Turned out their star ships were the size of a gnat and they were accidently swallowed by a dog.
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:whacky::rotfl: lol!
 
mikekle said:
I dont think a far superior alien race would even try to communicate with us, they would not see us as ‘people’, it would more akin to how we look at cockroaches infesting a house, would you go in and ask the roaches if you could live there for awhile or just destroy them all, and move in? LOL
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Apparently you need to watch Pacific Rim (or at least watch it again, ON BLU-RAY :whacky:). You’re not taking into account mankind’s capacity to actually adapt, learn, and (if our current technology is already an indication) speed up advancement when responding to imminent, immediate threats (like bio weapons in teh form of giant monsturrs).

Besides, the OP’s hypothetical already established that communication is there and they are beseeching us for shelter. Movie and pulp fiction silliness aside, it’s only logical to assume that they don’t have any means of taking it all by force.

It’s not hard to imagine a race of aliens only being capable of advancing itself ahead of humanity in one area (such as space travel). Think of how the Chinese were the first to use paper or how Europeans first made use of metallurgy.
 
Joking aside. It is quite thought-provoking when i think of it.
 
I think what’s truly remarkable is that God put us in this thing we called the universe that seems to be …let me check…roughly 100 billion light-years in diameter, as far as we can tell…

That’s pretty big. Anyone care to wrap their mind around how big that is?? :cool:

And as far as stars go, our galaxy alone has around 300 billion stars.

Yet I believe God made just us humans and the angels to occupy it… kind of makes a person feel a bit lonely at times… Maybe I’m wrong. There is no official church teaching on it.
 
ChainBreaker said:
“Our home world was destroyed by our Sun; there is 8 billion of us, will you let us stay on earth?”

How should human beings respond to this? How do you think human beings will respond to this.
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That may be us in about 1 billion years…as our sun on its way to self-destruction will destroy all life on earth (assuming we don’t destroy ourselves first).

I guess in about 200 million years we should start looking for some uninhabited planet with all the amenities of earth – right temps, air composition, etc, where dangerous or intelligent (and selfish) life has not yet evolved…
 
lynnvinc said:
. . . all the amenities of earth – right temps, air composition, etc, where dangerous or intelligent (and selfish) life has not yet evolved…
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It is amazing the influence that science fiction and Scientism has on people. Most, I would say, think that the universe works that way. This is not what has been revealed to be true.
 
How should human beings react? Agree to share our planet IF it’s realistically feasible for us to do so without mutual detriment. If it’s not feasible, we should explain why it wouldn’t work and try to help the aliens find another solution.

How would human beings react? In a huge variety of ways. Without a single governing body, no global government, there would be a multitude of differing opinions and I doubt that a consensus could be reached amongst the countries of the world.
 
ChainBreaker said:
“Our home world was destroyed by our Sun; there is 8 billion of us, will you let us stay on earth?”

How should human beings respond to this? How do you think human beings will respond to this.
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Sure why not? join my family for supper, I am grilling some carne asada, frijoles and arroz ala Mexicana on the side and some Mexican beer:)
 
Nixbits said:
How would human beings react? In a huge variety of ways. Without a single governing body, no global government, there would be a multitude of differing opinions and I doubt that a consensus could be reached amongst the countries of the world.
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I would expect differing opinions and responses even if there were a global government.
 
lynnvinc said:
That may be us in about 1 billion years…as our sun on its way to self-destruction will destroy all life on earth (assuming we don’t destroy ourselves first).

I guess in about 200 million years we should start looking for some uninhabited planet with all the amenities of earth – right temps, air composition, etc, where dangerous or intelligent (and selfish) life has not yet evolved…
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I think it would be much more feasible for us to manufacture our next habitation rather than find one move-in ready…

…or we will merge with the internet and our collective consciousness will just float around the universe disembodied, absorbing information as we come across it, and introducing whatever civilizations we come across to humorous cat videos. 😛
 
AOE4 said:
Sure why not? join my family for supper, I am grilling some carne asada, frijoles and arroz ala Mexicana on the side and some Mexican beer:)
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Hmmm…I wonder how they would take to realizing that other lives on this planet are routinely ended so that we can burn and consume their flesh. Anyway, time for breakfast. I think I’ll have sausage this morning!
 
Aloysium said:
It is amazing the influence that science fiction and Scientism has on people. Most, I would say, think that the universe works that way. This is not what has been revealed to be true.
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Don’t know what you’re talking about. I do know the sun is eventually expected to self-destruct…which stars do. That’s just common scientific knowledge (based on the laws of nature God ordained). Don’t know where you get your science.
 
lynnvinc said:
Don’t know what you’re talking about. I do know the sun is eventually expected to self-destruct…which stars do. That’s just common scientific knowledge (based on the laws of nature God ordained). Don’t know where you get your science.
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I was addressing your post:
“. . . all the amenities of earth – right temps, air composition, etc, where dangerous or intelligent (and selfish) life has not yet evolved…”

I suppose I misuderstood. It sounded like you were suggesting that given the right conditions, life might spontaneously emerge. This has not been shown to be possible, although it is a commonly held idea in our culture. Treading close to a banned topic, this is all I will say about it. Life exists in this world as created by God. It has not been revealed whether He did so elsewhere.

I have the credentials to speak from a position of authority with regards to science, but for these purposes simply consider what I say.
 
Aloysium said:
I was addressing your post:
“. . . all the amenities of earth – right temps, air composition, etc, where dangerous or intelligent (and selfish) life has not yet evolved…”

I suppose I misuderstood. It sounded like you were suggesting that given the right conditions, life might spontaneously emerge. This has not been shown to be possible, although it is a commonly held idea in our culture. Treading close to a banned topic, this is all I will say about it. Life exists in this world as created by God. It has not been revealed whether He did so elsewhere.

I have the credentials to speak from a position of authority with regards to science, but for these purposes simply consider what I say.
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In actuality, I don’t think we will even make it to the level of colonizing another planet.

I think thru our sinfulness we’ll pretty much destroy all life on earth. Either God will destroy it for our sinfulness by supernatural or natural means (like a huge meteor slamming into Earth), or we will do it by our sinfulness thru “natural” means… We’re pretty much in process of that right now, without a care for future generations, even our own progeny. I’m not an end-timer; I always have hope (and I pray) that people will become good, but I’m not holding my breath for that either.

I have no idea if there is any life elsewhere, but I do know God is great and can do whatever He wills, and His ways are beyond our puny and finite comprehension.
 
lynnvinc said:
I’m not an end-timer; I always have hope (and I pray) that people will become good, but I’m not holding my breath for that either.
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Cynicism like that is actually the gateway drug to the end-timer movement. I should know because I nearly fell for that trap. Don’t you think it’s rather ironic for Catholicism to be all about preserving life and advocating social justice if everyone in the Church shared your dismal view on God’s ultimate creation? 🤷
 
lynnvinc said:
In actuality, I don’t think we will even make it to the level of colonizing another planet. I think thru our sinfulness we’ll pretty much destroy all life on earth. . . .
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Not as we are, but maybe that yearning reveals what we were meant to do, and will do after the resurrection - bring life to the entire universe.
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
Cynicism like that is actually the gateway drug to the end-timer movement. I should know because I nearly fell for that trap. Don’t you think it’s rather ironic for Catholicism to be all about preserving life and advocating social justice if everyone in the Church shared your dismal view on God’s ultimate creation? 🤷
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You’re right, I’m getting cynical.

I guess I need to get away from CAF, bec it really depresses me into thinking we are not going to work on reducing our harms to planet earth and would even go to the extent of destroying a huge portion of life. There are just so many nay-sayers here who are opposed to accepting problems like global warming and other serious env harms. And if that’s Catholics who are probably considering themselves to be “good people,” what about the criminals and terrorists, etc. It begins to look very hopeless.

I need to get out of here and focus on people engaged in positive actions. Bye-bye.
 
lynnvinc said:
You’re right, I’m getting cynical.

I guess I need to get away from CAF, bec it really depresses me into thinking we are not going to work on reducing our harms to planet earth and would even go to the extent of destroying a huge portion of life. There are just so many nay-sayers here who are opposed to accepting problems like global warming and other serious env harms. And if that’s Catholics who are probably considering themselves to be “good people,” what about the criminals and terrorists, etc. It begins to look very hopeless.

I need to get out of here and focus on people engaged in positive actions. Bye-bye.
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I have been on your planet for some time now.

It is true that you creatures appear to have a tendency towards selfishness and self destruction. Even the best of you are flawed and apparently insane.

But I have found something quite interesting when studying human beings. When great evil and calamity is against you, Humanity pulls together and creates great works of charity and self sacrifice that is wondrous to behold; and for that reason alone my stay here has been worthwhile. That’s why we have been abducting you and performing experiments (it has been very entertaining). We have even successfully created hybrids between your kind and ours in the hope that our kind can walk among you without the need to reveal our true natures (this way are Dna will be preserved and will live on in humanity). If I can convince the committee, we will not have to take your world by force.

I will present this information in defence of humanity to my committee leaders. It will be a shame if they decide to go ahead with the harvesting process.
 
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