Our Lady of Atonement Church

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Caesar said:
Most traditional parishes and chapels.
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Unfortunately, they are not as plentiful as they should be.

My whole point to this thread, after I figured the Church out, was the wonderful marriage of the new, the old, culture and tradition. Why do people have such a hard time understanding that all these things can live in great harmony?
 
PatienceAndLove said:
Unfortunately, they are not as plentiful as they should be.

My whole point to this thread, after I figured the Church out, was the wonderful marriage of the new, the old, culture and tradition. Why do people have such a hard time understanding that all these things can live in great harmony?
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Because a lot of modern innovation contradicts tradition. There is nothing wrong with organic development of tradition, but innovation and unrestrained reform is disastrous.
 
Caesar said:
Because a lot of modern innovation contradicts tradition. There is nothing wrong with organic development of tradition, but innovation and unrestrained reform is disastrous.
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Please create a different thread if you are going to dissect the NO and modernism/modern practices.
I created this thread to understand this rite and Church.
Thanks.
 
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Not so. Sarum use could show a continuous useage of 200 years.

However, the recusant and mission priests were trained to use the Tridentine recension, rather than the Sarum, so that became the norm of Catholic England after the Reformation.
 
OutinChgoburbs said:
I never considred it so, but if hubby is not Catholic, I guess you are confied to drives up and down I-35.
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How far is that drive, anyway?
Would I be able to do it every Sunday, or would it be more of a once a month thing?
 
{sigh} THose photos bring back memories.

There were people who would make the drive from Austin to OLOTA every weekend, but most would only do it for special occasions or a weekend trip.

The photos do not do the sanctuary justice. The triptych behind the altar is huge, and the ethos of that Mass with the polyphonic choir, pipe organ, incense, chants, ad orientem posture of the priest, artwork, cassocks and surplices on altar boys, bows, genuflections, Elizabethan English, and stained glass…it’s just a whole world you walk into that is unlike anything else.

I’ve been to Tridentine Masses, and they are beautiful. I understand how the vernacular Masses are a bit banal-sounding after hearing Latin for so long. However, for someone who has heard the vernacular for most of his life, Latin can seem to have too much of a distancing effect. Elizabethan English is a nice balance between comprehension and sacrality - between the transcendence of God and the imminence of God.

Rome is very supportive of this Use. I talked to Fr. Stravinskas about this, and he said that they are very interested in this. I don’t know if it will take off, but I think people should make it a point to visit such a parish if they have the opportunity.
 
Windmill said:
{sigh} THose photos bring back memories.

There were people who would make the drive from Austin to OLOTA every weekend, but most would only do it for special occasions or a weekend trip.

The photos do not do the sanctuary justice. The triptych behind the altar is huge, and the ethos of that Mass with the polyphonic choir, pipe organ, incense, chants, ad orientem posture of the priest, artwork, cassocks and surplices on altar boys, bows, genuflections, Elizabethan English, and stained glass…it’s just a whole world you walk into that is unlike anything else.

I’ve been to Tridentine Masses, and they are beautiful. I understand how the vernacular Masses are a bit banal-sounding after hearing Latin for so long. However, for someone who has heard the vernacular for most of his life, Latin can seem to have too much of a distancing effect. Elizabethan English is a nice balance between comprehension and sacrality - between the transcendence of God and the imminence of God.

Rome is very supportive of this Use. I talked to Fr. Stravinskas about this, and he said that they are very interested in this. I don’t know if it will take off, but I think people should make it a point to visit such a parish if they have the opportunity.
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DD is starting school, and it all looks so lovely. pout

But I am going to make it a point to try and get there when we are in Texas.
 
Windmill and Chicago-
What is the cost of living in San Antonio?
We would be near St. Mary’s Law School (I convinced DH to take a look, and we are going to talk about it! Say a prayer to St. Thomas More for me 🙂 )
 
PatienceAndLove said:
Windmill and Chicago-
What is the cost of living in San Antonio?
We would be near St. Mary’s Law School (I convinced DH to take a look, and we are going to talk about it! Say a prayer to St. Thomas More for me 🙂 )
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I’m not Windmill or Chicago, but I know that the cost of living in San Antonio is very reasonable.
 
If every Novus Ordo celebrated the Rite One from the book of Divine Worship or like the Latin Novus Ordo Mass celebrated by St.Agnes’s in St. Paul, Minnesota, then I believe we’d have ourselves a good solid orthodox mass, with lots of “Active Participation”, solemnity, and sacredness! These masses and the Tridentine mass, and we’d be all set.
 
ravenonthecross said:
If every Novus Ordo celebrated the Rite One from the book of Divine Worship or like the Latin Novus Ordo Mass celebrated by St.Agnes’s in St. Paul, Minnesota, then I believe we’d have ourselves a good solid orthodox mass, with lots of “Active Participation”, solemnity, and sacredness! These masses and the Tridentine mass, and we’d be all set.
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Can I quote you in the “What Changes You You Make to the NO?” thread?
 
Pax_et_Caritas said:
I’m not Windmill or Chicago, but I know that the cost of living in San Antonio is very reasonable.
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That’s what a classmate of mine told me today.
That makes me most excited. She also told me that living a bit beyond the city is much more reasonable than in the city.

Like I said, I convinced DH to look at St. Marys. I found some favorable things regarding it (ie: the use of their Law Journal in many well known courts, including the Supreme Court)
Prayers, Prayers, Prayers!
 
👍 Yes,St.Mary’s Law School is still in business.
Our Lady of the Atonement is way on the other side of town from me,though I wouldn’t mind going out there sometime.
 
👍 Yes,San Antonio is pretty reasonable and a big military town,that’s why so many military retire here,like my late dad. We came to San Antonio back in the 1950s when my dad was stationed out at KellyAFB at Security Service(military intelligence). We came back here in 1962 after okinawa where my brother was born.My sister was born here in 1964.After stints in Alaska and Maryland,my dad retired here in 1975 after 33years in the military (Airforce).This was always home to us.
Yes,living here is pretty cheap,and property taxes and other things are cheaper in surrounding counties like Guadalupe,Comal,etc.
Schertz in Guadalupe County where i live was voted the no.1 place to live in Texas by Money Magazine,and 40th in the country.
We sit between I-35 on the north and I-10 to the south.
Lots of new houses being built.I work for the district and we are opening two new schools next year,plus there are some more that will open in 2009 or2010.
Got a brand new Walmart,Capital One and Chase banks, new businesses opening up all the time.Just up the road,on I-35 North
is New Braunfels.It’s a nice town founded in the 1840s by german settlers.It’s the home of Schlitterbahn,the water park which has been on the Travel Channel several times.
San Antonio has a nice zoo,and they are restoring the Japanese Sunken Gardens in Breckenridge Park.There are some new natural areas around San Antonio you can visit,like Government Canyon.
Check out the city of San Antonio’s website for more information.
The Botanical garden on Funston is nice,they have various activites there.
 
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