Our Lady of Mount Carmel Scapular question

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The Peace of the Lord,

I was invested few weeks ago, thank God, and I was wondering that even if I am wearing the Brown Scapular, I am still not fully invulnerable to occasions of sin and not to mortal sin.

My question is: What if I commited a mortal sin
Will I lose the benefit of this Brown Scapular? “Whosoever dies wearing this Scapular shall not suffer Eternal Flames”

And will I have to be re-invested to have the benefit again?

Thank you and God bless us all 🕆
 
Based on my knowledge as a wearer of the Brown Scapular, no you do not need to be reinvested. Investment is a one-time requirement to receive the graces of the scapular. As for mortal sin, I believe that if you have a truly contrite heart at the moment of your death, then you will not suffer eternal fire. If you are a true devotee to Our Lady, then she will plead for you at the hour of your death. That is the basic meaning of Our Lady’s scapular promise. I’ve been invested, but I’m still a sinner by human nature. Therefore, you are still susceptible to the same human frailties as we all are. Make frequent and heartfelt confessions and pray for the LORD to strengthen you through your devotion to Mary.
 
Hi, no you won’t lose the benefits of the scapular and don’t need to be invested again because you may have sinned. Just go to confession if you think you have sinned. The scapular is a wonderful devotion.
 
striker_eureka9 said:
The Peace of the Lord,

I was invested few weeks ago, thank God, and I was wondering that even if I am wearing the Brown Scapular, I am still not fully invulnerable to occasions of sin and not to mortal sin.

My question is: What if I commited a mortal sin
Will I lose the benefit of this Brown Scapular? “Whosoever dies wearing this Scapular shall not suffer Eternal Flames”

And will I have to be re-invested to have the benefit again?

Thank you and God bless us all 🕆
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I would suggest to you the scapular catechesis which is used by both branches of the Carmelite Family…Ancient Observance and the Discalced Teresian Reform.

meditationsfromcarmel.com/content/scapular-catechesis
 
I am wearing 2 scapulars ATM. One has a few medals attached. The other was a recent gift from a couple of Legion of Mary Ladies fresh back from a retreat and off to Fatima soon. I put it on when they gave it too me. Like any gift. It has some sort of special blessing or touched a relic (?) according to them 🙏.

But I am sure if I commit mortal sin and drop dead, without being forgiven, its the flames of hell for me! 2 scapulars or not!
 
I am wearing 2 scapulars ATM. One has a few medals attached. The other was a recent gift from a couple of Legion of Mary Ladies fresh back from a retreat and off to Fatima soon. I put it on when they gave it too me. Like any gift. It has some sort of special blessing or touched a relic (?) according to them 🙏.

But I am sure if I commit mortal sin and drop dead, without being forgiven, its the flames of hell for me! 2 scapulars or not!
 
There has been controversy over questions regarding the Carmelite Scapular - and it is to be noted that the document that is often suggested in the forums- The Catechesis from North American Prov. (I myself have suggested it in the past) is from 2000 from the Provincials of one area of the World. It contains an interesting discussion and details but it is what it is a not something more than it is.

Since then this came out from Pope St. John Paul II:

w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/speeches/2001/march/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_20010326_ordine-carmelo.html

Where he interestingly celebrates the 750 annv. of the “bestowal” of the Scapular.

A more recent letter (2015) from the Prior General of one of the Orders

carmeliteinstitute.net/solemnity-of-our-lady-of-mount-carmel-2015/

“A third point is that this year we celebrate the 750th anniversary of the death of St. Simon Stock. Of course it is true that the figure of Simon Stock is enveloped in the shadows of the Middle Ages, and historians have found plenty of material to study and debate. However, according to the tradition, and without getting into any controversy, Simon died in Bordeaux on the 16th of May, 1265. That is why this year we record the 750th anniversary of his death. Simon Stock is tied to the tradition and piety of the Carmelite scapular, and for that reason, it is not out of place to be reminded of this central element of our charism that unites us to Mary, Mother and Sister of all Carmelites. Please God, we, like Simon Stock, may turn to Mary, in our moments of sadness and discouragement, in our trials and disappointments, so that she, first teacher and first disciple of our Lord, may help us to journey as disciples and witnesses of the Good News of the Gospel, especially in our proximity to the poor and needy. The Carmelite scapular, in all its lowliness and simplicity (and perhaps, precisely for that reason) continues to be a reminder of our commitment to the values of the Gospel and is a seed of hope.”
 
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There has been controversy over questions regarding the Carmelite Scapular - and it is to be noted that the document that is often suggested in the forums- The Catechesis from North American Prov. (I myself have suggested it in the past) is from 2000 from the Provincials of one area of the World. It contains an interesting discussion and details but it is what it is a not something more than it is.

Since then this came out from Pope St. John Paul II:

w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/speeches/2001/march/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_20010326_ordine-carmelo.html

Where he interestingly celebrates the 750 annv. of the “bestowal” of the Scapular.

A more recent letter (2015) from the Prior General of one of the Orders

carmeliteinstitute.net/solemnity-of-our-lady-of-mount-carmel-2015/

“A third point is that this year we celebrate the 750th anniversary of the death of St. Simon Stock. Of course it is true that the figure of Simon Stock is enveloped in the shadows of the Middle Ages, and historians have found plenty of material to study and debate. However, according to the tradition, and without getting into any controversy, Simon died in Bordeaux on the 16th of May, 1265. That is why this year we record the 750th anniversary of his death. Simon Stock is tied to the tradition and piety of the Carmelite scapular, and for that reason, it is not out of place to be reminded of this central element of our charism that unites us to Mary, Mother and Sister of all Carmelites. Please God, we, like Simon Stock, may turn to Mary, in our moments of sadness and discouragement, in our trials and disappointments, so that she, first teacher and first disciple of our Lord, may help us to journey as disciples and witnesses of the Good News of the Gospel, especially in our proximity to the poor and needy. The Carmelite scapular, in all its lowliness and simplicity (and perhaps, precisely for that reason) continues to be a reminder of our commitment to the values of the Gospel and is a seed of hope.”
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Thank you for the update!
 
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