Outdoor Mass, Outdoor Shrine

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Just some background before I pose my question:

My diocese has begun a very hasty, disorganized clustering process, opting to put priests into parishes only where they are under laity. I know that this is necessary in some instances, but not every instance. My parish is, and I quote, “being attacked by liberalism,” for we have been given a nun to be our “pastoral administrator” who wears a crucifix depicting a woman Jesus with breasts prominently displayed. She stands during the consecration. She wears an alb during mass, and preaches every weekend, rather than the “once in a great while” as stated in Redemptionis Sacramentum. With this nun coming in, we are losing three priests, each one potentially a pastor at one of our closed parishes. Now, my question.

Seeing as how these three priests, and our parish congregation, will be scattered, and will not likely see each other again for several years, would an outdoor Mass be suitable as a “Goodbye and good-luck” sort of ceremony? two of the priests have said many outdoor Masses, and have the bishop’s okay in that regard. The setting would be a “sacred space,” a small shrine with a statue of Mary, the Sacred Heart, candles, an altar, proper layout etc. . . The use of the actual church building is restricted because only the nun will have keys, and she has already stated her disapproval of our liturgy. Her exact words were, “Altar servers, incense, and Gregorian Chant have no place in liturgy,” and “your priests dance to my tune.” I would personally think that a proper Mass, even outdoors, would be better than a nun-led liturgy in a church building.

By the way, the bishop vacations with this nun for weeks at a time, so any intervention would have to come from outside my diocese. Thus the entire dilemma. Thank you for your (name removed by moderator)ut.
 
Of course, you know that the Holy Father, John Paul II, indicated that the laity are entitled to a valid and licit Mass. You do have the right to complain to the Bishop. If he chooses not to act, for whatever reason, you can complain to Rome. I’m sure one of the many knowledgeable people on this board can provide you with more specific information about how to do that. Sadly, many of the nuns & priests who were formed during the post-Vatican II era are very heterodox. It is a blessing that the younger men and women who are answering God’s call to religious life are much more orthodox and faithful to the Church.

Peace,
Linda
 
I just find it amazing that when the Church is looking for more young men, like myself, for the priesthood, certain dioceses are openly shunting them aside.

Is there any document that anyone knows of that gives any help one way or the other in this issue of an outdoor Mass for the faithful?
 
Re: female crucified Jesus

I think you should compliment the nun for her devotion to St. Julia of Corsica (feast day May 22). Never let her explain that it’s Jesus; just keep talking about the various crucified woman martyrs.

Hey, maybe she’ll learn something. Or get Jesus a t-shirt. 🙂

And heck, maybe she does have a devotion to St. Julia of Corsica!

Re: outdoor Mass

Of course it’s perfectly proper to hold a Mass outdoors. The Pope does it all the time, and so do military chaplains. You just normally can’t get married outdoors, because Catholic marriage is more of a parish and public event intrinsically. (To protect the bride and groom, mostly, and prevent secret marriages.)

Anyway, your priest will probably want to get a portable altar, or an “altar stone”, a small portable bit of stone with relics in, that makes any surface into a valid altar. I’m not sure whether you absolutely need either for a valid Mass these days, but I don’t think either would be too difficult.

Mostly, you just need a priest to have a Mass.
 
I don’t think she has a devotion to any crucified female saint. She wears a tee-shirt for Mass (yes, during Mass at which she preaches) which shows the nativity, and in large letters says “It’s a Girl!” It’s a mess 😦
 
I know its been over a year since this post started but is the crazy nun still there?
 
Just some background before I pose my question:

My diocese has begun a very hasty, disorganized clustering process, opting to put priests into parishes only where they are under laity. I know that this is necessary in some instances, but not every instance. My parish is, and I quote, “being attacked by liberalism,” for we have been given a nun to be our “pastoral administrator” who wears a crucifix depicting a woman Jesus with breasts prominently displayed. She stands during the consecration. She wears an alb during mass, and preaches every weekend, rather than the “once in a great while” as stated in Redemptionis Sacramentum. With this nun coming in, we are losing three priests, each one potentially a pastor at one of our closed parishes. Now, my question.

Seeing as how these three priests, and our parish congregation, will be scattered, and will not likely see each other again for several years, would an outdoor Mass be suitable as a “Goodbye and good-luck” sort of ceremony? two of the priests have said many outdoor Masses, and have the bishop’s okay in that regard. The setting would be a “sacred space,” a small shrine with a statue of Mary, the Sacred Heart, candles, an altar, proper layout etc. . . The use of the actual church building is restricted because only the nun will have keys, and she has already stated her disapproval of our liturgy. Her exact words were, “Altar servers, incense, and Gregorian Chant have no place in liturgy,” and “your priests dance to my tune.” I would personally think that a proper Mass, even outdoors, would be better than a nun-led liturgy in a church building.

By the way, the bishop vacations with this nun for weeks at a time, so any intervention would have to come from outside my diocese. Thus the entire dilemma. Thank you for your (name removed by moderator)ut.
A priest does not “dance” to anyone but God! They are directly under the lawful superiors if Order priests and the Bishop if diocesan. It is the responsibility of the priest who will be celebrating the liturgy to determine the best palce to offer the Mass. The Mass should be celebrated inside the church building unless there is some serious reason that it can’t be, remember that the celebrating priest is in charge of his liturgy.
 
Why is a nun running a parish in the first place?
How can a nun possibly have that authority?

This also makes me wonder, if she’s such a heretic, then why did she become a nun in the first place. Didn’t she have to take a vow of obedience to the Church?

Is there no way of getting rid of her at all?
 
Just some background before I pose my question:

My diocese has begun a very hasty, disorganized clustering process, opting to put priests into parishes only where they are under laity. I know that this is necessary in some instances, but not every instance…
cannot be, it is against canon law, only a priest can be a pastor, I would ask what diocese but I am afraid to, because I probably know already. pray as if your life and faith depend on it, because it may.
 
I think you should compliment the nun for her devotion to St. Julia of Corsica (feast day May 22). Never let her explain that it’s Jesus; just keep talking about the various crucified woman martyrs.

Another would be St. Maura.
 
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