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Hi everyone,so i’ve been hearing about this overpopulation issue.Some people say its a myth some say its real.How should I view overpopulation as a Christian(Catholic)??🤷

Thank you for your answers and replies.GBU and JLU.🙂
 
Hi everyone,so i’ve been hearing about this overpopulation issue.Some people say its a myth some say its real.How should I view overpopulation as a Christian(Catholic)??🤷

Thank you for your answers and replies.GBU and JLU.🙂
The world is not overpopulated.
The scourge of poverty is caused by unfair distribution of resources by the rich countries and mismangement and corruption in the developing countries.
 
I have heard it said that if we were to take the population of the world and put them standing together with space around each one, they would all fit into the state of Texas.

Who’s lying to us??
 
Hi everyone,so i’ve been hearing about this overpopulation issue.Some people say its a myth some say its real.How should I view overpopulation as a Christian(Catholic)??🤷
I don’t know the official RCC stance on this, though of course, since RCism doesn’t believe in birth control, it would stand to reason that the RCC also doesn’t believe that there’s overpopulation.

Look @ it this way: 2 of the most prosperous and dynamic nations in the world, Germany & Japan, have very little living space per person (granted, like the Americans, the Germans have been birth-controlling and aborting themselves to death for the past 30 or so years).

The other thing to consider whenever you hear the litany about “overpopulation” is (and I’m now speaking from an American context), why is it that there is no pressure on Latinos or Blacks to get abortions? Why is it that, on the contrary, they are PAID (freebies galore) to have lots of babies, nay, even out-of-wedlock?

If you connect the dots, you get a sinister picture. (Think BRAVE NEW WORLD & the need for drones.)

Anyway, even if one opposes abortion-as-birth control (I certainly do), there’s a strong Biblical argument to be made that you shouldn’t have more kids than you can properly tend to (not just in terms of finances, but in terms of upbringing): I’ve seen way too many “families” where birthing proceeds like roaches, but there is no “good breeding” of the ensuing offspring. They don’t get reared, they are simply allowed to sprout any which way, like weeds. In the long run, that will destroy a civilization (and of course, it’s not fair to the kids in question, either).

(With all due respect to Thistle, the poor countries were poor long before the “rich” countries got “rich,” though you’re spot-on about “mismangement [sic] and corruption in the developing countries” contributing to the poverty.

There’s also the “God factor”: if you believe, as does Hinduism, that matter is evil and that your deceased grandmother might be dwelling in that rat or roach over there in the gutter, you’ll neither vigorously pursue the transformation of matter [invention & manufacturing], nor will you kill off the rats, mosquitos and other vermin that cause disease and death.

The other crucial ingredient missing in most of the “developing” nations is what’s often referred to as the “Protestant Work Ethic,” altho one could rephrase that as simply “Biblical Integrity Ethos.” If the main focus is on “fun,” yacking and having parties, if goal-orientedness as an underlying social force is deficient or totally absent, that takes its toll on the whole culture.)
 
Hi everyone,so i’ve been hearing about this overpopulation issue.Some people say its a myth some say its real.How should I view overpopulation as a Christian(Catholic)??🤷

Thank you for your answers and replies.GBU and JLU.🙂
Since the people who raise the overpopulation issue are almost always using it to justify contraception and abortion and blame overpopulation for causing starvation and usually haven’t thought it through, I typically refute it with a one-liner. Here are two of the best:

"Yeah, and Manhattan is starving while Sudan is getting fat."

…or, said with an upper-crusty east coast accent - think Mr Howell on Gilligan’s Island - **"Yehhhs, the best way to eliminate poverty is to eliminate the poor. Don’t you agree?"
 
Overpopulation…

Do yourself a favor… take the time and read
Too Many People?
(By Dr. Jacqueline R. Kasun)
http://www.envoymagazine.com/backissues/2.3/images/hotel.gif

Example of Myths:
**Myth 1: ** The world is overcrowded and population growth is adding overwhelming numbers of humans to a small planet.
In fact, people do live in crowded conditions, and always have. We cluster together in cities and villages in order to exchange goods and services with one another. But while we crowd together for economic reasons in our great metropolitan areas, most of the world is empty, as we can see when we fly over it. It has been estimated by Paul Ehrlich and others that human beings actually occupy no more than 1 to 3 percent of the earth’s land surface.

If you allotted 1250 square feet to each person, all the people in the world would fit into the state of Texas. Try the math yourself: **7,438,152,268,800 **square feet in Texas, divided by the world population of **6,858,351,731 *( as of May 26th 2010), equals 1084 square feet per person. The population density of this giant city would be about 21,000 — somewhat more than San Francisco and less than the Bronx. (Mexico’s territory [21,232,356,710,400 square feet] is even larger than Texas so according to this, the whole world’s population could also fit in the Mexican territory)

Another fact: World population growth is rapidly declining. United Nations figures show that the 79 countries that comprise 40 percent of the world’s population now have fertility rates too low to prevent population decline. The rate in Asia fell from 2.4 in 1965-70 to 1.5 in 1990-95. In Latin America and the Caribbean, the rate fell from 2.75 in 1960-65 to 1.70 in 1990-95. In Europe, the rate fell to 0.16 — that is, effectively zero — in 1990-95. And the annual rate of change in world population fell from 2 percent in 1965-70 to less than 1.5 percent in 1990-95.

Worldwide, the number of children the typical woman had during her lifetime (total fertility) fell from 5 in 1950-55 to less than 3 in 1990-95. (The number necessary just to “replace” the current generation is 2.1.) In the more developed regions, total fertility fell from 2.77 to 1.68 over the same period. In the less developed regions it fell from more than 6 to 3.3. Total fertility in Mexico was 3.1 in 1990-95. In Spain it stood at 1.3, and in Italy, it was 1.2.

Official forecasts of eventual world population size have been steadily falling. In 1992-93, the World Bank predicted world population would exceed 10 billion by the year 2050. In 1996, the U.N. predicted 9 billion for 2050. If the trend continues, the next estimate will be lower still.
(* Today’s population size updated from time of article from U.S. Census Bureau)
[Rest of the article at the Link provided above]
 
Myth 2: Overpopulation is causing global warming.
http://www.envoymagazine.com/backissues/2.3/images/hotel.gif
The message that is most likely to arouse the fervor of young people is that overpopulation is destroying the environment and the biosphere. On this point, the first thing to keep in mind is that some of the most beautiful parts of the world, with the highest environmental quality, are in densely populated countries such as western Germany, which has more than 600 persons per square mile, and the Netherlands, which has almost 1200 persons per square mile, compared with 330 in China.

Several myths promote the belief that we are engulfed in an environmental catastrophe. For instance, Vice-President Al Gore and some scientists say population growth is causing global warming.*** **But there is much disagreement in the scientific community about this. Seventy-nine scientists issued the “Leipzig Declaration” in 1995 saying “. . . There does not exist today a general scientific consensus about . . . greenhouse warming . . .” Additionally, the satellite readings of global temperature, available on the NASA Web site at www.nasa.com, do not show a warming trend.

And further, respected climatologists such as Hugh Ellsaesser, Richard S. Lindzen and Robert C. Balling vigorously dispute the notion of a global warming danger. Also taken from: Too Many People?

*****Global Warming Hoax
 
At this time, underpopulation and depopulation are the most serious threats on the horizon.
 
http://www.sellingamongwolves.net/the-genesis-model/wp/images/creation-michelangelo.jpg
God’s First Command to his human children *“And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful *and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth” (Genesis 1: 28)

Overpopulation Propaganda’s Underlying Message: To lead the world to believe that God miscalculated creating a world *too small *for the amount of human children He was planning to create. If He miscalculated, then He obviously makes mistakes and we have the right to disobey Him and take charge with the contraception of humans. :eek:

Whom do we believe?

To Jesus through Mary 👍
 
Those who think overpopulation is an issue are out of touch with reality.
Population in the West and also some other countries like Japan is dropping disastrously. It is dropping disastrously because of the great economic problems this is causing. For example, in Europe because fewer people are being born they are running out of money. The population is aging and so there are less workers paying for services for a population comprised of a greater proportion of retired people. Some European countries to have imported workers from Moslem countries to replace those not being born and importing Moslems, but are now getting very serious social problems
because of this. The Japanese too are becoming very worried because their population is declining. Countries like Russian are trying to get more births, but have been failing.
 
Of course, the Malthusians would reply, “Aha! The decline is bec. we have pushed birth control and abortion.” So, I don’t think it’s a wise course to use the declining population argument against the Malthusians, bec. ultimately, it plays right into their agenda.
 
Of course, the Malthusians would reply, “Aha! The decline is bec. we have pushed birth control and abortion.” So, I don’t think it’s a wise course to use the declining population argument against the Malthusians, bec. ultimately, it plays right into their agenda.
For myself, the depopulation crisis has nothing to do with Malthusian theory, which has long since been discredited in any case. Rather, it is an immediate crisis which may portend the end of Europe as we know it, since the only way Europe can now survive is through immigration. The continued economic sustainability of Europe, and perhaps the U.S. as well, will depend on immigration.
 
http://www.envoymagazine.com/backissues/2.3/images/hotel.gif

Myth 3: Overpopulation causes ozone depletion.

Like global warming, the cause and significance of the so-called ozone “hole” is a matter of intense scientific dispute, although the United States and other nations have agreed to reductions in the use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), which were alleged to have caused it.

S. Fred Singer, an atmospheric physicist who participated in the earliest ozone measurements, calls the ozone scare a “misuse of science.” In fact, many think the chief function of the CFC ban has been to help big chemical companies establish highly profitable new monopolies on the CFC substitutes which they developed."

More articles HERE
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Overpopulation Myth’s Underlying Message: To lead the world to believe that God miscalculated creating a world too small for the amount of human children He was planning to create. If the world is “overpopulated”, He obviously miscalculated, which demonstrates that He makes mistakes and therefore we have the right to disobey Him and take charge with the contraception of humans.
 
The world is not overpopulated.
The scourge of poverty is caused by unfair distribution of resources by the rich countries and mismangement and corruption in the developing countries.
I agree with you! the world is not overpopulated! unequal distribution of resources, hatred, selfishness, greediness, stupidity, etc, have “overpopulated” (filled) the world to the brim.
 
Of course, the Malthusians would reply, “Aha! The decline is bec. we have pushed birth control and abortion.” So, I don’t think it’s a wise course to use the declining population argument against the Malthusians, bec. ultimately, it plays right into their agenda./QUOT
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If someone began talking about Malthus, they would be changing the topic. The question is whether overpopulation and continuing population growth is a problem. Instead, declining population is a problem.
 
For myself, the depopulation crisis has nothing to do with Malthusian theory, which has long since been discredited in any case. Rather, it is an immediate crisis which may portend the end of Europe as we know it, **since the only way Europe can now survive is through immigration. ** The continued economic sustainability of Europe, and perhaps the U.S. as well, will depend on immigration.
Unfortunately the biggest group of immigrants are the muslims. That is really a cause for concern!
 
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