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AlextheLeopard
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I thought God loved all of it’s creations.
Well at least that’s what my God does. Idk about your god
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Well at least that’s what my God does. Idk about your god
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WonderAndAwe
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HE loves all HIS Creations. But that doesn’t mean that He loves all of His Creations’ creations.
Exodus shows that YHWH despised the Egyptian Pantheon, and subsequently He also despised the Babylonian Pantheon, and the Greek, Roman, Hindu, Balkan, Celtic and all other Pantheons of the man-made psuedoreligions.
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AlextheLeopard
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Oh you have a degree on Theology? Where from might I ask?
Oh and Considering you’ve never actually met God and only read his creations book I guess you don’t know. You yourself said God loves his creations but not always his crations’ creations. So I guess you’ll never know if the Bible is the truth now will you?
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Randy_Carson
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Is it necessary to have a degree in theology in order to know about God? If so, where did all the ancient pagan religions learn about their gods before modern universities were formed?
Many Christians have met Jesus personally, though not all have. However, meeting God in the manner of which you speak is not a requirement for faith, is it?
How are you in a position to know exactly what WonderandAwe has previously experienced?
This doesn’t follow at all.
*]We know that Jesus rose from the dead based on eye-witness testimony.
*]His resurrection supports His claim to be God.
*]He promised to build a Church and remain with it forever.
*]He also promised to send the Holy Spirit to lead that Church into all truth.
*]That Church, therefore, cannot teach error; it is protected from doing so by God.
*]An infallible Church teaches that the Bible is not mere history, but the inspired Word of God.
So, yes, we can know that the Bible is the truth.
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AlextheLeopard
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Is it necessary to have a degree in theology in order to know about God? If so, where did all the ancient pagan religions learn about their gods before modern universities were formed?
Many Christians have met Jesus personally, though not all have. However, meeting God in the manner of which you speak is not a requirement for faith, is it?
How are you in a position to know exactly what WonderandAwe has previously experienced?
This doesn’t follow at all.
*]We know that Jesus rose from the dead based on eye-witness testimony.
*]His resurrection supports His claim to be God.
*]He promised to build a Church and remain with it forever.
*]He also promised to send the Holy Spirit to lead that Church into all truth.
*]That Church, therefore, cannot teach error; it is protected from doing so by God.
*]An infallible Church teaches that the Bible is not mere history, but the inspired Word of God.
So, yes, we can know that the Bible is the truth.
I’m not trying to say that it isn’t truth it’s just rude and insensitive to say we should burn other religions teachings when we believe in a book written by mans hand and not God himself. Yes it was inspired by God but so was theirs. That’s where I usually snap. It’s just flat out wrong to say such things. It’s people in this religion with those views that make society look down upon us with less respect. It radicals like that that make people think we know nothing and we’re just bible thumping morons. In the Bible it teaches we understand and except fellow man. Nobody. Absolutely NOBODY has the right to say “I know what God wants us to do” No. You know how God wants YOU and YOU ALONE to act. And He certainly does not want us to be that crude of a people and do that to others. Anyone who’s read the new testament could tell you that. That He wants you to be the best you. To love Him. Not to go out, and excuse my langue, be a total butt to other people and disrespect their beliefs. You want people to respect Christianity? Then learn some respect yourself.
Please note my anger isn’t directed to you, but to people who like to just pick and choose what they want from the Bible. Follow all of it or keep your mouth shut about what you do and don’t follow.
Personally I don’t believe the Bible is 100% true. Did some of it happen most likely yes. But it was written by Man. Imperial men who wanted more followers as their religion, like all others, started as a cult. Yes it was “inspired by God’s word” but everyone sins, and I can’t help but consider that maybe a lie or two made it in there.
Now, is a wonderful book to lead your life by? Oh yes by all means! Is it a book that we should say is complete fact. Not really. This is JUST MY opinion though!!! I understand others will not agree with that and that’s okay, I’m not here to offend, just listing why I disagree!
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Randy_Carson
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I never said a word about burning anything.
As a Catholic, I don’t recognize any book on the planet other than the Bible as inspired. You should feel free to offer any compelling evidence to the contrary, of course.
Here is a small sampling of what the Catholic Church has said concerning Sacred Scripture:
Vatican Council II, Dei Verbum, 1965
“9. Sacred Scripture is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy Spirit.”
“11. Therefore since everything asserted by the inspired authors or sacred writers must be held to be asserted by the Holy Spirit, it follows that the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into the sacred writings5 for the sake of our salvation. Therefore “all Scripture is divinely inspired and has its use for teaching the truth and refuting error, for reformation of manners and discipline in right living, so that the man who belongs to God may be efficient and equipped for good work of every kind” (2 Tim. 3:16-17)
Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1994
- The inspired books teach the truth. "Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures."72
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AlextheLeopard
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All I’m saying is it’s not hard to lie. Never has been even back then. There was a lot of politics back in that time. Jesus’s actions, if boiled down, come around taxes right to worship freely and the Jewish Imperials. So that part REALLY compels me not to believe the Bible. THAT has historical documentation by several people of different faiths and nationalities, where as the Bible, not so muchI never said a word about burning anything.
As a Catholic, I don’t recognize any book on the planet other than the Bible as inspired. You should feel free to offer any compelling evidence to the contrary, of course.
Here is a small sampling of what the Catholic Church has said concerning Sacred Scripture:
Vatican Council II, Dei Verbum, 1965
“9. Sacred Scripture is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy Spirit.”
“11. Therefore since everything asserted by the inspired authors or sacred writers must be held to be asserted by the Holy Spirit, it follows that the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into the sacred writings5 for the sake of our salvation. Therefore “all Scripture is divinely inspired and has its use for teaching the truth and refuting error, for reformation of manners and discipline in right living, so that the man who belongs to God may be efficient and equipped for good work of every kind” (2 Tim. 3:16-17)
Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1994
- The inspired books teach the truth. "Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures."72
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Randy_Carson
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All of the Apostles except John were martyred for preaching the Gospel.
If they lied, what did they get out of the deal?
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AlextheLeopard
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They did it for the same reason the people in the crusade killed the Franks. They believed they’d be rewarded. Killing is a sin, yet they did it in the name of God, lying is a sin, but it may have happened in the name of God.
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Randy_Carson
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People will die for a good cause, but no one usually dies for what they know to be a lie.
The Apostles were willing to accept martyrdom rather than deny what they believed to be true.
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kimg901
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I’ve met God!!! And the Bible is truth. God’s Truth!!! Do you think God would allow His Word to be corrupted?
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Darryl_B
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You will let them go when they have no value to you. It will not be because they are forbidden. It will only be when you find no value. It will eventually happen.
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Avdima
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Wicca is as much of so called Satanism as any other religion, I rather the middle east be full of pagans and witches than Muslims. I rather much live next door to Wiccans than a lot of Christians I come across. I do not see many Wiccans beheading people if you catch my drift.
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agnes_therese
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Why would you want to financially support the New Age by spending money on their books?
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AlextheLeopard
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I doubt it. No proof. Once again no proof. And yes. Yes very much so.
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Randy_Carson
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What advantage is there to God for His message to His people to be corrupted?
If God exists at all, and if He had bothered to inspire a book to be written, why would He not take steps to make sure that it didn’t get screwed up?
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WonderAndAwe
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To film it and mail the DVD to the author/post it to Youtube?
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Anne1964
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I agree with the poster who said that you will get rid of these things once they no longer have any value to you.
When I returned to the Church after many years involvement with pagan religions I disposed of the pagan books and objects slowly over a period of several years.
The first to go were objects or books I had used in pagan rituals. After that, I began getting rid of the books.
When I returned to the Church after many years involvement with pagan religions I disposed of the pagan books and objects slowly over a period of several years.
The first to go were objects or books I had used in pagan rituals. After that, I began getting rid of the books.
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kimg901
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That’s fine that you doubt. I know what ive been blessed with. As far as proof, you need only to look into a mirror. Look outside and see this earth that He created. The universe. Its all there. But I will pray for you friend.
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AlextheLeopard
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I see where you’re coming from. And I think it’s wonderful you believe in that, everyone deserves something to have faith in. It’s just personally I don’t share the same view. And honestly for the whole taking steps he might not have, we really don’t know! If he’d take steps to do that why wouldn’t he take steps to make sure the Romans and Greeks etc for them to believe? Have a word of God themselves? I mean if the Pope said “hey God told me go kill x amount of people” and went through with it why wouldn’t he take steps to prevent that? Or take steps to not have the crusades happen in his name? This is just my view on it though so, please don’t think I’m trying to convince you or anything.What advantage is there to God for His message to His people to be corrupted?
If God exists at all, and if He had bothered to inspire a book to be written, why would He not take steps to make sure that it didn’t get screwed up?
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