Pagan Rome vs. Catholic Rome

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Oh, yeah, forgot to tell you that Mithraism was a “secret” religion with not a whole lot of written “theology”. You might want to think “Masons” or, God forbid, the “KKK”. Mithraism was not the only “secret” religion of Rome, you could try Isis as another very basic example. Rome at the time of Our Lord and after was replete with all types of “secret” religions. Gnosticism has its roots in this too. And no, I am not approaching this from a Catholic point of view, I am approaching it from the point of view of someone who has all these useless hours in history and doesn’t know what to do with them.😉
 
first, i’ve been to the vatican and didnt see this particular mosaic anywhere that i went in the PAPAL tombs under St Peters, which are the only tombs accessable to the public and take up quite an extensive area under the basillica. however, simply because i do not recall seing this particular section of a particular mosaic, does not mean it doesnt exist.

HOWEVER, i see nothing, absolutely nothing in that very small piece of an obviously large mosaic which points to either mithraism or the “sun god.” for starters, the portion of the large disk shown brown on the side is not likely a communion host, based on the size and coloration. a host would be shown in white, and you dont see them very often nor with black design on the edge in classic mosaics. It is more likely a halo on a much larger figure, like Jesus. that would make the very small character shown to be either an angel or a saint… most likely an angel, based on the wings, since wings are clearly lacking from the description of the sun god.

Further, the mosaics in the vatican were not produced at a time when pagan rome still existed. these would have come much later than the creation of the church. as such it is reasonable to presume that mithraism and other pagan roman religions had long faded before the creation of this piece, which makes the placement of the roman sun god into the work even less probable.
 
A good book about the Graveyard on Vatican Hill is The Bones of St. Peter by John Evangelist Walsh. It gives one an idea of what it was like to live at a time when it was illegal to be a Christian. Many marks and images had covert messages. The Christ-Helios mosaic is on the ceiling of the Julius tomb. The light rays from behind the head suggest the cross.

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According to Karl Keating’s “Catholicism and Fundamentalism”, Ralph Woodrow used this in his book “Babylon Mystery Religion” to show that the sunburst is a reference to the Babylonian gods.

I’m not sure if he originated this theory, but he seems to have gotten plenty of mileage from it.

“Hey, I know, let’s totally bastardize our religion, but leave little clues for those holy guys to figure out”!

It could happen!!

NotWorthy
 
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Oh yes… I have done some lengthy research on this, but I haven’t really read any early church fathers in refuting the religion… As the religion might have already been dead before Christianity really hit hard in Rome.

The problem I am facing is that where are the writings about this mythical religion? have been to Rome and one side is very much pagan in nature and the other side is Vatican.

European arts in the minds of protestants equate to paganism or worshiping.

Basically were the statues, and various other art forms ways to help pagans relate to Christianity?

Like ROCK n’ROLL for praise and worship…
In a history class once, the teacher made a very large deal about the fact that other ancient religions worshipped gods that had risen from the dead. He seemed to say that this disproved Christianity. Over the years I have come to the conclusion that God so wanted those people to be able to understand him that he placed a small seed of truth in their hearts. That way when they first heard about Christ, his rising from the dead wasn’t a foreign concept to them. PErhaps the same thing is true about mithrasim.
 
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